Loco Roco, but y no homebrew?

[AvengedSevenfold Fan]

Is the Loco Roco demo that you can download a flash game? It's compatable with 2.71, so y isn't other homebrew? can you use loco roco as an exploit?

[Video_freak]

no. its digitally signed by sony to work on the psp. we would need someone that works their to make a hack for us ;)

[AvengedSevenfold Fan]

then lets all donate a dollar to bribe him with money to give us a hack! haha jk. but cant some hacker dude find a way to get that signature, or use something in the game as an exploit like i said before?

[Video_freak]

#1. I don't think a bribe would be enough (unless he could live off of it), because he would loose his job.
#2. If a hacker found the signature and used it, it would probably be illegal.
#3. An exploit could come along some day. :)

[AvengedSevenfold Fan]

do you use emulators? have you downgraded? thats all illegal

[Video_freak]

its not illegal (unless you download the firmware dumps from the web)

[AvengedSevenfold Fan]

yes it is, either way you are copying the files. just like how it is just as illegal to burn a cd as it is to download it off the internet. plus, emulators are illegal

[yaustar]

Emulators are not illegal and downgraders are not either. Neither of them use copyrighted files or bypassing protection.

[AvengedSevenfold Fan]

emulators require ISOs as games, right? (prepare to get this thread closed) downgrading requires the DOWNDATER folder, which is copyrighted. and illegal, which is why the easy downgrader by dark_alex is the "lite" version, because it doesnt have the DOWNDATER folder, which makes it legal.

[yaustar]

Precisely, the emulators and downgraders THEMSELVES are NOT illegal. The files to run on them may be.

Example: Visual Boy Advance Emulator for the PC is not illegal but if you download a ROM from the internet, the ROM itself is illegal but not the emulator.

[AvengedSevenfold Fan]

o, well thats what i ment. mis-communication i guess. can we get back on topic?

[yaustar]

do you use emulators? have you downgraded? thats all illegal
Added note: It is possible to use legal PD roms and games that I have backed myself legally under fair use.

o, well thats what i ment. mis-communication i guess. can we get back on topic?
Considering you brought off topic, I would have thought that would be up to you :rolleyes:

[AvengedSevenfold Fan]

ok, w/e, its my fault, idc, lets just get back on topic

[Video_freak]

how is that off topic. it ties in perfectly with what we were talking about.

[AvengedSevenfold Fan]

the topic was being able to exploit loco roco

[Video_freak]

ya, but that goes into legal/illegal stuff. and that dies in with umd loaders and homebrew and stuff ;)

[AvengedSevenfold Fan]

w.e, i dont want to start into an argument

[Video_freak]

me neither, lets just say i was wrong this time :)

[AvengedSevenfold Fan]

no i was

[AvengedSevenfold Fan]

everyone, even my mom always call me hard-headed and stubborn, im trying to stop that

[NoQuarter]

The whole question of what's legal and illegal has a constantly changing grey answer.
copyright laws are a mistake in that the help foster monopolies especially when it's intellectual property

[AvengedSevenfold Fan]

agreed... i think.... was that english??

[NoQuarter]

lol,sort of
eh,maybe a little pidgin too

[AvengedSevenfold Fan]

chirp

[NoQuarter]

lol
Don't breathe the air birds have sex in it.

Nice avatar

[under_0ath777]

psp_iz_my_system do you enjoy making dumb threads?

[Video_freak]

no, he just asks a lot of questions ;)

[NoQuarter]

When psp reads a digital sighning what exactly does it read?
strictly speaking I know it's a number or an encrytion algorythm.
But does only one work?

[acn010]

hi all
XD

[AvengedSevenfold Fan]

to under oath, go shove a stick up ur ass. how do is this a dumb thread. and thanx video freak for backing me up

[NoQuarter]

c'mon guys it was so lighthearted in here earlier,but yeah there is nothing wrong with asking questions!

[Video_freak]

to under oath, go shove a stick up ur ass. how do is this a dumb thread. and thanx video freak for backing me up
i'm not taking any sides. i'm neutral :) i just told him why you started the thread (not because you wanted to make a dumb thread ;))

[NoQuarter]

Good rule of thumb:
Don't insult

[yaustar]

When psp reads a digital sighning what exactly does it read?
strictly speaking I know it's a number or an encrytion algorythm.
But does only one work?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encryption

In concept, it is nothing more then a key and a lock.


Good rule of thumb:
Don't insult
I disagree, its don't piss off the wrong people.

[NoQuarter]

thanx for the link yaustar I've been putting off reading more about encryption.
hope I didn't piss you off
Interesting wiki:)

[under_0ath777]

homebrew has been let down by sony since 1.52 :P

why change for 2.71?

[motz]

Emulators are not illegal and neither is a downgrader.

[AvengedSevenfold Fan]

emulators use ISOs. and the DOWNDATER folder is illegal, at least according to my research.

[Video_freak]

emulators use ROMs, which are legal if you own the game. the DOWNDATER folder is legal if you do it locally and dont dowload it from the web. thats just the way it is.

[yaustar]

emulators use ISOs. and the DOWNDATER folder is illegal, at least according to my research.
*sigh* link to ROMS: http://www.pdroms.de/index.php
Note that they are LEGAL. Emulators for the PSP can use these ROMS. How is this illegal?

[Rocksil]

any way

if there are no homebrew on the current firmware it is not likely to have a downgrader :(

[AvengedSevenfold Fan]

yeah i know, i didnt ask about a downgrader, i asked about an exploit for loco roco

[Video_freak]

there may be an exploit in time :)

[NoQuarter]

arguing semantics about roms will get you nowhere psp_iz_my_system,
I really do hope we see an exploit though,the more 1.5's the better:)

[Video_freak]

ahmen to that NoQuarter. i try to downgrade as many psp's as i can from friends and family ;)

[NoQuarter]

Me too,I try to spread the word as much as I can.
I'm getting tempted to avoid all discussions that end up being an argument about the legality of roms.I don't know about you guys but I love to play my old games:confused:

[AvengedSevenfold Fan]

i have no idea what you said noquarter..,,here we go with the pidgin again...

[NoQuarter]

That's definitly english.

[AvengedSevenfold Fan]

whats a semantic?

[Video_freak]

se·man·tics
n. (used with a sing. or pl. verb)
The meaning or the interpretation of a word, sentence, or other language form

[blackrave]

What, no homebrew for 2.71? I downloaded a DevHook .46 with a NES emulator working in emulated 2.71. Wouldn't that work for normal 2.71 aswell? Hold on, I'll find a link.

UPDATE: Sorry, NesterJ only works for emulated 2.71, but it's a good start?

[Video_freak]

It doesn't work on emulated 2.71, does it?
It's supposed to only work on 1.5 :confused:

[under_0ath777]

still pondering why your psp is bricked :P

[blackrave]

It doesn't work on emulated 2.71, does it?
It's supposed to only work on 1.5 :confused:

Yes, but the developer made a special version for Devhook emulated 2.71.

[crait]

#1. I don't think a bribe would be enough (unless he could live off of it), because he would loose his job.
#2. If a hacker found the signature and used it, it would probably be illegal.
#3. An exploit could come along some day. :)

whoa, so...
lets say i have the signiture, and i can apply it to any game
without using any sony applications
and if i were to apply it to a pbp file, it would be illigle?

remember this is an if statement
i could have the signiture, yet there is still a possibility of me not having it

[Video_freak]

still pondering why your psp is bricked :P
I've never bricked a PSP...

[yaustar]

whoa, so...
lets say i have the signiture, and i can apply it to any game
without using any sony applications
and if i were to apply it to a pbp file, it would be illigle?

remember this is an if statement
i could have the signiture, yet there is still a possibility of me not having it
Yes. The signature would be under possible NDA and definitely copyright. Getting it in the first through whatever means (hacking, leaks, inside information) without Sony's permission is illegal. Distributing the signature (whether or not it is embedded in another program) would break the copyright (at least) since you are copying and distributing it without permission from Sony.