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Triv1um
January 22nd, 2008, 23:41
So, i have just purchased a dreamcast. What a machine!!

I got it with 8 games, and now i plan to buy many many more.

But obviously the homebrew scene is huge (and im on the right site for it).

I was wondering what is the MUST HAVE homebrew for it? (dont just point me to the downloads page, i want to know the must have stuff, and whats to come)

Cheers (JKK, you know you wanna help me :D)

Christuserloeser
January 23rd, 2008, 00:49
Congrats on your purchase; and yeah, it's an awesome machine :)

Start here: http://dreamzoneboards.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1200314757


Download, unRAR and burn with Alcohol or BootDreams:

http://dchelp.dcemulation.com/?BootDreams
http://trial.alcohol-soft.com/en/download_120.php

Triv1um
January 23rd, 2008, 01:27
Thanks so much Christuserloeser.

1 question, is there a 100% full speed with sound SMS emulator?

I know the emulator i downloaded for the Saturn was close, so im guessing the DC does?

VampDude
January 23rd, 2008, 04:47
1 question, is there a 100% full speed with sound SMS emulator?

I know the emulator i downloaded for the Saturn was close, so im guessing the DC does?

I would say the SMS emulator I have is roughly about 90% which is good, when I find the disc I burned it to I will edit this post and add the name of the emulator. :D

Triv1um
January 23rd, 2008, 11:55
Cheers Vamp ;)

OneThirty8
January 23rd, 2008, 12:02
Thanks so much Christuserloeser.

1 question, is there a 100% full speed with sound SMS emulator?

I know the emulator i downloaded for the Saturn was close, so im guessing the DC does?

I was always impressed with SMS +. There were two versions last I knew. I think the one I played with a lot was by pascal? It's great. I had written a program to download the screenshots for the menu, but it no longer works because the screenshots were hosted on a subdomain of dcemulation.com that no longer exists. But the emulator is still awesome.

beetroot bertie
January 23rd, 2008, 16:01
SMEG is pretty, pretty, pretty good (yay! Curb is back on TV) too, but I dunno if it's 100% speedwise.

As for essential homebrew I'd probably suggest The Beats of rage collections 1 and 2 and the Sandman disc as great places to start.

The demo for Drill is very good too (http://www.drill.rr.nu/) - it's a shame it never got any further, and Gianas Return should be ace when that get finished. Oh, and Quake runs well too.

Congrats on getting the Dreamcast too. I hope you got Soul Calibur with it.

Christuserloeser
January 23rd, 2008, 19:37
Quick reply: SMSplusDC and SMEG both run full speed.

http://dcevolution.netfirms.com/downloads/emulation/S8DEPv1b.zip

ExcruciationX
January 23rd, 2008, 19:48
The Dreamcast is pretty good. I'd say buy Unreal Tournament and Sonic Adventure.

VampDude
January 24th, 2008, 03:31
The Dreamcast is pretty good. I'd say buy Unreal Tournament and Sonic Adventure.

Unreal Tournament was only ever good online, and there are no servers now.

JKKDARK
January 24th, 2008, 03:46
Unreal Tournament was only ever good online, and there are no servers now.

This game is fantastic playing multiplayer

VampDude
January 24th, 2008, 04:52
This game is fantastic playing multiplayer

I bet it's not as fun as what it was when it was online.

JKKDARK
January 24th, 2008, 05:02
I bet it's not as fun as what it was when it was online.

Of course, online play is always over offline play.

VampDude
January 24th, 2008, 05:18
Of course, online play is always over offline play.

The best game online on the Dreamcast is Chu Chu Rocket, I miss playing Dreamcast games online.

Triv1um
January 24th, 2008, 12:38
Lol, I've got chu chu rocket. I haven't even touched it yet because it looks so bad.

So are 'all' of the DC servers down now? none left?

VampDude
January 24th, 2008, 12:44
Lol, I've got chu chu rocket. I haven't even touched it yet because it looks so bad.

So are 'all' of the DC servers down now? none left?

All of the "official" servers are gone, oh and don't mock Chu Chu Rocket since you've not seen it at it's best (which is online) but sadly you won't unless someone dedicates a server.

beetroot bertie
January 24th, 2008, 13:04
Chu Chu with 3 mates is great, totally nuts and crazy. Actually, it's perfectly suited for XBLA too.

I was never that fond of UT. I found the frame rate really iffy, esp. in split screen mode. I guess I was more into Quake III. UT did have better variety in levels and weapons though. Outrigger was a decent arcade FPS too.

Triv1um, what games did you get with it?

JKKDARK
January 24th, 2008, 13:08
Lol, I've got chu chu rocket. I haven't even touched it yet because it looks so bad.

So are 'all' of the DC servers down now? none left?


All of the "official" servers are gone, oh and don't mock Chu Chu Rocket since you've not seen it at it's best (which is online) but sadly you won't unless someone dedicates a server.

WRONG

http://www.dcemu.co.uk/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=513268&postcount=13

VampDude
January 24th, 2008, 13:17
WRONG

http://www.dcemu.co.uk/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=513268&postcount=13

It's as good as what I said, all the servers that are still up in the EU and US are for crap games.

SEGA should've kept the Chu Chu Rocket server open!

JKKDARK
January 24th, 2008, 13:28
It's as good as what I said, all the servers that are still up in the EU and US are for crap games.

SEGA should've kept the Chu Chu Rocket server open!
If they were crap, people wouldn't be playing them 8 years after their releases.
Starlancer and Quake 3 Arena are considered 2 big titles for Dreamcast. They have high scores on all the gaming sites.

Triv1um
January 24th, 2008, 15:00
Triv1um, what games did you get with it?

Resident Evil Code: Veronica
Soul Calibur
Sega Rally 2
Sonic Adventure
Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver
Tomb Raider: Last Revelation
102 Dalmations - Puppies to the rescue
ChuChu Rocket.

It was a fixed bundle from GameStation, so I didnt get the choice of games, but I thought the selection wasnt too bad. (except 102 Dalmations)

I got the Dreamcast, 1 pad (with VMU), and those games for 25 (bargin)

JKKDARK
January 24th, 2008, 15:04
I recommend these excellent titles (in my opinion):

Sonic Adventure 2
Sonic Shuffle
Worms World Party
Unreal Tournament
Grandia 2
Skies of Arcadia
Marvel vs Capcom
Marvel vs Capcom 2
Sega Smash Pack Vol. 1
Starlancer
Phantasy Star Online
Phantasy Star Online Ver. 2

Triv1um
January 24th, 2008, 15:12
Thanks JKK, I will look into those.

VampDude
January 24th, 2008, 22:30
If they were crap, people wouldn't be playing them 8 years after their releases.
Starlancer and Quake 3 Arena are considered 2 big titles for Dreamcast. They have high scores on all the gaming sites.

I've not heard of Starlancer, and I got bored of Quake 3 when I first got it, the best online game is still Chu Chu Rocket, but SEGA are morons and pulled the server!


I recommend these excellent titles (in my opinion):

Sonic Adventure 2
Sonic Shuffle
Worms World Party
Unreal Tournament
Grandia 2
Skies of Arcadia
Marvel vs Capcom
Marvel vs Capcom 2
Sega Smash Pack Vol. 1
Starlancer
Phantasy Star Online
Phantasy Star Online Ver. 2


You forgot Shenmue.

Eviltaco64
January 24th, 2008, 23:21
I recommend these excellent titles (in my opinion):

Sonic Adventure 2
Sonic Shuffle
Worms World Party
Unreal Tournament
Grandia 2
Skies of Arcadia
Marvel vs Capcom
Marvel vs Capcom 2
Sega Smash Pack Vol. 1
Starlancer
Phantasy Star Online
Phantasy Star Online Ver. 2

Almost Everything except Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike and Shenmue are on this list, but DONT get Sega Smash Pack Vol. 1 (possibly the first collection of emulated genesis games for a console), the emulation is awful. Sonic 1 lags and is glitchy, and it sounds like its 8-bit renditions of the music. If you want genesis games, use the newest release of GenesisPlusDC (but make sure that you own the game legally :D )

JKKDARK
January 24th, 2008, 23:31
I have Sega Smash Pack Vol. 1 mainly because Shining Force and Phantasy Star 2. Even if the sound is not like in the original console, it's still good because the compilation is cheap! :)

Eviltaco64
January 24th, 2008, 23:33
I have Sega Smash Pack Vol. 1 mainly because Shining Force and Phantasy Star 2. Even if the sound is not like in the original console, it's still good because the compilation is cheap! :)

True, it is cheap. But it is emulated with much better results for Genesis Plus...Which is free

beetroot bertie
January 24th, 2008, 23:41
It looks like you have some decent titles to get started with. If you like the roaming adventure type I'd say play Soul Reaver before Tomb Raider as I think it's a much better example of that sort of game. It's similar in many ways but far less frustrating to control.

If you have the spare cash I'd recommend:

Arcade Stick
DC-X Swap Disc for imports
Ikaruga
Rez
Samba De Amigo with Maracas

Out of the more common PAL releases that have not been already mentioned by JKK, I think these are all good:

Rayman 2
MSR
Powerstone 1 & 2
Jet Set Radio
Capcom Vs SNK
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Crazy Taxi
Virtua Tennis 2
Bangai-O
Tony Hawk's 2

Triv1um
January 24th, 2008, 23:46
Thanks beetroot.

I really like soul reaver, tomb raider sucks ass though.

When i have some spare cash (spent the little i had left to mod up the DC, gonna spray it and LED it up, If it turns out nice i will post pics when its done.)

I will go mad and buy loads.

beetroot bertie
January 25th, 2008, 00:08
Mine has been sadly neglected of late, pushed aside for the seductive wares and shiny promise of HD and decent single player FPS games on my 360.

I still have plenty of games to play on it yet but haven't even got round to Shenmue 2 yet, let alone some of the cheapo ones I picked up along the way.

If you are using a CRT TV you may have some fun with a light gun and House Of The Dead 2 and Confidential Mission. Both are great for quick blasts.

You may want to invest in a VGA cable at some stage too, as the DC looks sweet on a CRT monitor via VGA. Soul Calibur is really crisp and Ikaruga looks the dogs' nuts. You really can't go wrong with post-pub Soul Calibur. You owe it to your mates to get another controller.

ShoShoKid
January 25th, 2008, 04:30
Cool Cool Toon
Lack of Love
Capcom Vs. SNK Millenium fight 2000
Unreal Tournament
Quake 3 Arena
Marvel Vs. Capcom
Marvel Vs. Capcom 2
Powerstone
Powerstone 2
Chaos Field
Under Defeat
Border Down
Dynamite Cop
Fatal Fury Mark of the wolves
Tech Romancer
last blade 2
Fur Fighters
Gigawing
Gigawing 2
Trigger Heart Exelica
Ikaruga
Mars Matrix
Castle of shikigami
Psyvariar 2
Bangai-O
Trizeal
Gunbird 2
Zero Gunner 2
Twinkle Star Sprites
Radilgy
Drill
Last Hope
Napple Tale
Gundam E.F.F Vs Zeon & DX (capcom)
Gaiamaster Kessen
Fire Pro Wrestling D
Frame Gride
Legacy of Kain
Rayman 2
Sonic Adventure
Sonic Adventure 2
MDK 2
Ecco
JGR
Alien Front Online
PSO
PSO Ver. 2
Toy Commander
Sword of the Berserk
Fighting Vipers 2
F355
Daytona USA
SEGA Rally 2
Bomber Hehhe
Seaman
Fushigi Dungeon
Guilty Gear X
JoJo's Bizarre
King of fighters 98/99/2000/2001/2002/Dreammatch
Rainbow Six
Ooga Booga
Project Justice
Rogue Spear
Samba De Amigo/2000 Ver.
Rent A hero no. 1
Soldier of Fortune
Street Fighter Double impact
Maken X
RE 2
RE 3
RE: CV
Rez
D2
Red Dog
Outtrigger
Propeller Arena
Half life
Starlancer
Armada
Headhunter
Rainbow Cotton
Karous
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Street Fighter 3rd strike
Vampire chronicles
Dead Or Alive 2
Psychic force 2012
Plasma Sword
Soul Calibur
Virtua Fighter 3tb
Virtual On
SEGA GT
MSR
Shadowman
Deep Fighter
Hundred Swords
Sakura Taisen
Jet Grind Radio
Chu Chu Rocket
Cannon Spike
Rez
Space Channel 5
Space Channel 5 part 2
Shenmue
Shenmue 2
Grandia 2
Skies of Arcadia
Crazy Taxi
Crazy Taxi 2
Bust a move 4
Puyo Puyo Fever
Puyo Puyo 4
typing of the dead
HOTD 2
4x4 evolution
Rush 2049
Worms world party/Armageddon
Virtua Tennis/2
Cosmic Smash
Test Drive le mans
Wetrix
Bomberman Online
The Lost Golem
Elemental Gimmick Gear
SEGAGAGA
Record of Lodoss war
Evolution (second was a disappointment)
Ready 2 Rumble
Ready 2 Rumble Round 2
Tee-Off
various 2k sports titles
Test Drive V-Rally
THPS
THPS 2
Tokyo xtreme racer 2
Confidential Mission
Jet Coaster Dream
Jet Coaster Dream 2
Aerowings 1 & 2
the various Aero Dancing games (there is 4 or 5)
Climax Landers
Floigan Bros.
Culdcept 2
Dino Crisis
deSPIRIA
Draconus
Industrial Spy
Neo
Heavy Metal Geomatrix
Illbleed
Big head baseball
Langrisser Millenium
Marrionette handler 2
Pen Pen Tricelon
Roommania #203
Rune Jade
Sunrise Epic
Super runabout
Super Street Fighter 2X
Super Puzzle Fighter
Super Producers
Treasure Strike
Vermillion Desert
Vanishing point
Gauntlet Legends

My ultimate list of good Dreamcast games

VampDude
January 25th, 2008, 06:46
Marvel Vs. Capcom
Marvel Vs. Capcom 2
Powerstone
Powerstone 2
Gigawing
Gigawing 2
Sonic Adventure
Toy Commander
Fighting Vipers 2
F355
Daytona USA
SEGA Rally 2
Vampire chronicles
Dead Or Alive 2
Virtua Fighter 3tb
Virtual On
SEGA GT
MSR
Chu Chu Rocket
Shenmue
Shenmue 2
Grandia 2
Crazy Taxi
HOTD 2
Tokyo xtreme racer 2
Heavy Metal Geomatrix


Shortened, a good list, but the ones I left are the best ones! :D

Triv1um
January 25th, 2008, 17:52
Changed the main LED today to a blue. Looks good :D

quzar
January 25th, 2008, 20:25
Rez
Crazy Taxi 2
Bust-a-Move 4
Super Puzzle Fighter II X
Mobile Suit Gundam: Federation vs Zeon DX

Eviltaco64
January 25th, 2008, 22:33
Crazy Taxi 1 and 2
Dead or Alive 2
Ikaruga
Jet Set Radio
Marvel vs Capcom
Marvel vs Capcom 2
Rez
Sonic Adventure 1
Sonic Adventure 2
Sonic Shuffle
Street Fighter III: Double Impact
Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Virtua Fighter 3
Virtua Cop 2 (The ONLY game you should get Sega Smash Pack for.)

For Homebrew I would reccomend,
Sonic Robo Blast 2
Retro Sonic
GenesisPlusDC
NesterDC SE
Bleemcast!
MAME4ALL (Plays CPS1 and 80s games)
AES4ALL (Neo Geo AES emulator)
DC Divx (plays videos fairly well)

On the other hand, I do not reccomend using SNES Emulators (Although SNES4ALL's Future looks bright). I've tried simple games like Megaman 7 and Super Mario World on DreamSNES using European roms (which of course run at a slower 50 FPS) and Mode 7 off, and they run at maybe 40 FPS with a lot of missing textures/objects.

Triv1um
January 25th, 2008, 23:01
I have downloaded SMS plus for it.

I do not have my DC here, i want want to check it works.

I have downloaded Chankast and it does not boot the emulator. Is this normal, do i NEED to try them in a DC.

I burnt them with Bootdreams.

JKKDARK
January 25th, 2008, 23:17
Chankast has terrible compatibility with homebrew stuff. Try nullDC.

Triv1um
January 25th, 2008, 23:21
Thanks JKK, will try it out.

Yeah, thanks JKK. NullDC worked with it.

gdf
January 25th, 2008, 23:57
My Skies Of Arcadia should be in the post from eBay right now.

Dunno if I can be arsed with Homebrew.

dcdood
January 26th, 2008, 06:10
I only have
Crazy Taxi
Resident Evil - CODE:Veronica
Sonic Adventure 2
Beats Of Rage Collection vol. 1 (cd-r)
Dream Explorer (cd-r)

i really want more though. i never got it when it was out :P good thing though. Had i bought it when it came out, between me and my brother, my DC would have burn marks! we had PS2 And XBOX and i think we really Missed out when DC came along.

got mine 1week before christmas.

BTW: Where can i get a coders Cable? BBA's are too expensive (ebay - Buy It Now = 200$ max~) thanks

Triv1um
January 26th, 2008, 08:46
BTW: Where can i get a coders Cable? BBA's are too expensive (ebay - Buy It Now = 200$ max~) thanks

Does this help?

http://devcast.dcemulation.com/mods/codercable/codercable.php

VampDude
January 26th, 2008, 09:01
Dunno if I can be arsed with Homebrew.

Whynot? :eek: Your missing out! :cool:

darkness angel 777
January 26th, 2008, 16:38
sonic adventure was a good game.

VampDude
January 26th, 2008, 17:04
sonic adventure was a good game.

It was the only good Sonic game on the Dreamcast.

Sonicboy 101
January 26th, 2008, 17:05
It was the only good Sonic game on the Dreamcast.

Hey!
What about Sonic Adventure 2?

gdf
January 26th, 2008, 22:34
Whynot? :eek: Your missing out! :cool:

Meh, the console's got enough classic games as it is.

Skies Of Arcadia arrived. Still amazing.



Anyway, I may try out homebrew on DC, but it all seems a bit complicated.

Triv1um
January 26th, 2008, 22:52
Meh, the console's got enough classic games as it is.

Skies Of Arcadia arrived. Still amazing.



Anyway, I may try out homebrew on DC, but it all seems a bit complicated.

It is, im about to get wound up.

15 CD-r's made into coasters.

quzar
January 26th, 2008, 23:05
It's quite simple to burn stuff for the DC, but most people simply don't read instructions or use one of the numerous incorrect/outdated/mismatched guides out there.

gdf
January 26th, 2008, 23:16
It is, im about to get wound up.

15 CD-r's made into coasters.

Lol. I hate the idea of ****ing with CD-Rs in order to play some stuff.

I'd rather go online with it (for Quake, and if that worked fine, PSO). BBAs are hard to come by though.

dcdood
January 27th, 2008, 03:23
i use discjuggler trial edition which is PERFECT (in my opinion) for Dreamcast Homebrew.

Trial Version records a max of 700MB at lowest speed possible which works better than recording at a super fast speed.

Just get a CDI based game Run it through DiscJuggler pop a disc in and hit record.


BBAs are hard to come by though.
Not really. Check e-bay. + theres a hack on making ur Broadband \ wifi connected PC - laptop in to a Dialup server for DC so it goes online. Wonder if there is a serial port Hack? (coders cable + Internet Ready PC = ONLINE FUN! )

Eviltaco64
January 27th, 2008, 03:33
Buning CDI's with Discjuggler is relatively easy. The only thing that I had trouble with at first was making SBI's.

fackue
January 27th, 2008, 04:06
Where can i get a coders Cable?
No where except eBay now. All the store that carried it are sold out, so you either need to find one when they pop up on eBay or build one yourself.

There's a post in the DC Dev forum I started that has a list of what you need and a link to a site that sends free samples of the needed serial chip, if you decide to make it.

Christuserloeser
January 30th, 2008, 12:35
Anyway, I may try out homebrew on DC, but it all seems a bit complicated.

1. Download: http://dcevolution.netfirms.com/downloads/emulation/S8DEPv1b.zip

2. UnRAR/UnZIP

3. Burn with Alcohol120%


...very complicated indeed ;)

OneThirty8
January 30th, 2008, 21:28
Buning CDI's with Discjuggler is relatively easy. The only thing that I had trouble with at first was making SBI's.

Making SBIs, or making discs from SBIs? Because Selfboot Inducer is easy to use--just click the buttons in the right order.

Eviltaco64
January 30th, 2008, 22:14
Making SBIs, or making discs from SBIs? Because Selfboot Inducer is easy to use--just click the buttons in the right order.

Yeah, now it's easy for me. I was talking about when I first tried burning homebrew emulators to a disc. SBI's were the first thing I used so I had trouble in the beginning.

Anyway, have you had any more success yet, Trivium?

Christuserloeser
January 31st, 2008, 08:39
Here's a good place to download all your SBIs: http://dchelp.net/sbi/