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    psp PSP: Final Release for SnesTYL9x mooted (SNES emulator for PSP)

    Hi DCEMU crew,

    Its with a mixture of sadness and respect that I write this report to you. For the benefit of those that haven't been keeping an eye on Yoyofr and Laxer3a's forums for SnesTYL9x, for some time now both Yoyofr and Laxer3a have been saying that they have less and less time to spend on the emulator. In fact they have mentioned that at some stage they would have to stop updating it and it looks like that point might be soon.

    "Hi,

    We are thinking about doing a "final release".
    Yoyo does not have the net for a few weeks again... Need to wait a bit.

    See you.
    "

    http://yoyofr.proboards44.com/index....ead=1156247762

    Laxer3a has explained that they have pretty much come as far as they can in terms of the speed of the emulator.

    He does believe that if there was a major overhaul of the code to incorporate a dynamic recompiler/JIT then there would be the possibility of an approximate 10% increase in performance:

    "Basically the SNES is kind of hard for dynarec because :
    - Code can be automodifying (a code write itself).
    In an architecture like MIPS or ARM cpu, you cant do that (because of the pipeline and code CACHE/ data CACHE seperated) So emulator writer goes really simpler.

    --> One solution could be to emulate the code in RAM, and JIT the code in ROM.

    - The Snes cpu is 1.7 Mhz only : I bet for the moment it takes around 100 Mhz of the main cpu to emulate it (even less probably). The JIT would probably increase the performance by 2 or 3 on the cpu emulation part... but how much TYL would increase in performance... I am not sure.

    Most likely a 10% increase in performance globally ?
    Most of the emu that benefit from JIT are the cpu consuming one : N64 -> 80 Mhz MIPS
    GBA : 17 Mhz ARM cpu (ARM is annoying to emulate on MIPS : very costly)

    This kind of technique would be usefull for the coprocessor as Tinnus said."


    He also believes that if the graphics code was completely rewritten there would be a performance increase for the most popular roms:

    "A full rewrite of the chipset (DSP / FX) emulation using VFPU for math stuff should increase the performance by quite a bit.

    While the BEST/MOST popular games use it, it would require a LOT of dev to play 10 games.

    That's why yoyo and I never went on this road...
    Moreover, we had more priority at that time :-)"


    http://yoyofr.proboards44.com/index....4352305&page=3

    But that the sheer time and effort involved in coding these outweigh any potential benefit and that neither he nor Yoyofr have the time to undertake this.

    They have mentioned though that they would like to fix any current bugs (and there is a bug report thread going in the forum) so it is hoped that the "final release" if it is released will cover the known bugs in release 0.42.

    As to my motivation in writing this piece, well Yoyofr and Laxer3a have never been ones to openly advertise the fact that they would consider help on the project but I'll quote Laxer3a:

    "I am not sure neither yoyo and I want to go that far in tuning. If any good coder is interested to join in... May be worth sending a bottle to the sea actually. As the source matches the latest binary. "

    So if there is someone out there that would consider the above coding rewrites as a challenge they'd like to take on......

    http://yoyofr.proboards44.com

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    eh... i think this has reached its peek anyway...but as my mother allways said there is allways room for improvement, could someone not make the GBA emu play snes games, cause they can play snes games on the GBA, just an idea... its just too get rid of the parts of the screen tht move slower than the other parts on this emu... dont get me wrong its great i use it all the time.

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    like you said has the code been optomised that much in this release ALL games even some of the more tricky mode 7 ones are now at full speed ?>This will be fantastic if they are.

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    first PSmonkey than these 2? we are losing developers

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    Yeah, this is a good enough emulator as it is i would say. they have been working on it ever since i got into PSP hombrew and it does have multiplayer, m.e. and loads more.
    Is it just me or is this a bad day end of PSmonkey and SnesTYL9x.
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    i hope chrono trigger works full speed!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airdevil
    first PSmonkey than these 2? we are losing developers
    hopefully they will have more apps
    coz this one is amzin and has reached its peak

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    This is looking bad for the homebrew scene...losing three great developers....

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    im sorry to see this happen. hopefully someone will pick up on this project. snestyl9x me is the reason i took the huge first day risk of downgrading from my 2.6. i just wanna say thanx for what you've done so far and hopefully they will fix the no-sound after state load issue.

    thanx again for everything

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    hopefully someone continues on with this emulator or makes a new one. Some of the bigger roms are difficult to play. Anyone try star ocean, english translation one? I wanted to play but it was real slow. Maybe one day/

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