Scam Competitions Ruining the Scene

[FrozenIpaq]

Haha, its like those school fund raisers when you sell a bunch of chocolate for points and the person who sells the most gets a new bike. I think I grew out of this sort of thing. If people want to do PSPUpdates advertising and recruiting for free, let 'em. Maybe people will realize that the only person who benefits from this is the guy who gets the most.

I can understand why DCEmu.co.uk (probably been my favorite console scene site along with DCEmulation for about 3-4 years) frowns on this sort of thing. They are delieving free PSP news with minimal ads. While PSPUpdates is charging people to see the latest PSP news without ads. Well I don't really need a premium membership when I have Firefox + Adblock haha.

Console scenes always seem to have a lot of drama.

See this is where people go wrong about PSPUpdates. The premium membership is like a donation, with your donation, you get no ads, forum privledges, entered into free competitions, and more. You don't have to sign up for premium membership just to see the news, you still see the 24/7 news with a few ads that can be blocked anyways. So Premium Membership is more than just ad blocking and most of the people who have signed up think of it as a donation.

[vidgrip]

Generally a donation is something you do by choice, maybe because you appreciate a coders work on a piece of freeware, or because you like Public Television's fine programming.

It's not to get better or preferential service. They're dangling a carrot, if you give us cash we'll give you this. By calling it a membership and offering the "member" more, there's no way anyone can confuse this with a donation.

[nexis2600]

Really I think PSP updates should use the extra $$$ to help out the scene where it's needed and not waste on contest. From my recent donation bin to help for a 2nd psp (errr stupid usps, where me psp. should already be here ), DCEmu was the only site to actualy donate twards helping raise a psp. The rest of the donations came from every day users.

To me, PSP updates should insted be getting money to buy 1.5 units for coders that could use one to further the scene. When people actualy put money into the scene it self and not just regular users, it goes along way.

Also I can truely speek from experience that a site can push their own money into suporting them self. As many do not know. I ran and paid for all hosting of agbdev.net when it was operational. That site hosted about 80% of the most important websites related to gba development ADD FREE which included the likes of gbadev.org, joat's mappy emulator, the GBA crib sheets, and many others. I gladly did it and every single month paid the hosting fees (and I did not have a whole lot of cash specialy being a high school student with a small weekend job).

[FrozenIpaq]

Really I think PSP updates should use the extra $$$ to help out the scene where it's needed and not waste on contest. From my recent donation bin to help for a 2nd psp (errr stupid usps, where me psp. should already be here ), DCEmu was the only site to actualy donate twards helping raise a psp. The rest of the donations came from every day users.

To me, PSP updates should insted be getting money to buy 1.5 units for coders that could use one to further the scene. When people actualy put money into the scene it self and not just regular users, it goes along way.

Also I can truely speek from experience that a site can push their own money into suporting them self. As many do not know. I ran and paid for all hosting of agbdev.net when it was operational. That site hosted about 80% of the most important websites related to gba development ADD FREE which included the likes of gbadev.org, joat's mappy emulator, the GBA crib sheets, and many others. I gladly did it and every single month paid the hosting fees (and I did not have a whole lot of cash specialy being a high school student with a small weekend job).

How would you suggest PSPU use the membership money for? PSPU gives all coders the Premium membership for free, thus they can participate in the free contests. How can PSPU contribute more to developers? What do other sites do to contribute?? Developers are given the premium membership, that's giving back. I know Aerol33t, a developer, and he enjoys what he is doing and likes to help out the community and he does not ask for anything in return, just the respect of being a developer

[wraggster]

At the end of the day developers and fans alike are being took the piss out of by greedy people who are using the homebrew and emulation scene to bring in premium membership and using giveaways to further that.

Topic Closed

I dont want any more mention of that site on these forums.

[nexis2600]

How would you suggest PSPU use the membership money for? PSPU gives all coders the Premium membership for free, thus they can participate in the free contests. How can PSPU contribute more to developers? What do other sites do to contribute?? Developers are given the premium membership, that's giving back. I know Aerol33t, a developer, and he enjoys what he is doing and likes to help out the community and he does not ask for anything in return, just the respect of being a developer

Yes for the most part most developers just want respect but not all of them that wish to contribute to the scene can run out and buy a 1.5 psp and hop in. I am not sure on the current status but I believe right now ldchen is trying to port his fpsxe playstation 1 emulator to psp with no real psp. Given the hardware I have no dout the guy would get a solid build up and running on a psp with amazing speeds quickly with pretty good compatibility. (You should see the work that has been done on this emulator for pocket pcs).

Sure the free subscription is a very nice gesture from pspupdates and I am happy to have it but I feel they should direct what extra money they can directly into the development scene to help coders out insted of giving away a psp who ever can drumm up enough subscriptions for them.

What do other sites do to contribute??

Again referencing my previous post. I recently had a donation drive to help drumm up money so I can get myself a 2nd psp to code wifi. I did not do the drive because I want money. I did it because I really want to get multiplayer via wifi done but I dont have the extra $$$ sitting around to even do it. I even this week finaly finaly got to borrow a coworkers psp for 30 mins durring my lunch break and was able to fix a small bug in my handshake code to connect 2 units over irda for multiplayer.

Wragster donated a nice $20 which was very helpful. Out of the list of people who donate I can't find a single one that came from pspupdates. I mean it really would have gone a long way as they would have been credited in all future builds plus the wifi libs which will probably get used alot. I am still happy PSPUpdates finaly posted about it which helpd (truthfuly about $90 worth of donations came from the link on pspupdates where $80 came from this forum alone, Most of that was due to 3 main contributers who combind made a total of $110).

To me that just feels kind of sad. They are running contest to give away things yet they dont donate to help out a coder to furuther the scene. I don't see them making big post on the new site saying "HEY CODERS, IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN GET YOU GUYS TO HELP FURTHER THE SCENE?"

Thats just my view on it. Me personaly, I am trying to talk to someone who is purchasing a palette of store returned psps to posibly see about getting some units for cheap to donate to scene coders who need them.

--edit note--
Sorry for the poor gramar and spelling. I've not been getting good enough sleep recently.

[Cap'n 1time]

I agree with nexis2600, rather than using money to pay for prizes (and obviously making a profit for yourself) you could contribute by use it for donations for coders that need the help. At the end of the day your site is full of uninformed members and a bunch of selfish greedy mods. It is best just to see things for what they really are.

they have all the ability in the world to make a REAL contribution to the scene, and it dosnt involve dorky prizes in which you are making profits for yourself. the homebrew scene is meant to be free, your site dosnt seem to support that.

[Smiths]

BTW: If you haven't noticed, the mention of "becoming a premium member enters you in contests" is bull$#@! since it's not allowed.
Contests, by law, have to be free. Don't think they "opened up the background contest to everyone" as a kind gesture.

THEY HAD TO

The sheer ignorance of the $$$-driven philosophy of "believing they are IGN or Gamespot" is bull$#@!. IGN doesn't post homebrew news as its main source of traffic; they post REAL EXCLUSIVE NEWS. That $#@!e site simply lifts everyone else's news and work, then tries to compare themselves to IGN.

I ****ing worked at IGN, okay? Trust me, they are NOT IGN.

[parabolee]

I thought this topic was closed? Why is it re-open?

[FrozenIpaq]

BTW: If you haven't noticed, the mention of "becoming a premium member enters you in contests" is bull$#@! since it's not allowed.
Contests, by law, have to be free. Don't think they "opened up the background contest to everyone" as a kind gesture.

THEY HAD TO

The sheer ignorance of the $$$-driven philosophy of "believing they are IGN or Gamespot" is bull$#@!. IGN doesn't post homebrew news as its main source of traffic; they post REAL EXCLUSIVE NEWS. That $#@!e site simply lifts everyone else's news and work, then tries to compare themselves to IGN.

I ****ing worked at IGN, okay? Trust me, they are NOT IGN.

No, the contests at first were free, but then, due to legal reasons, had to becomes somewhat of a competition, ie the background one.

Para, it was closed but re-opened for a reason.

Here is a good response to this "controversy":

As was just mentioned, this is a promotional contest. Just about every contest you'll ever come across is created for this exact same reason. This site is a business, they've never claimed differently. This site employs 8 people, and there is someone on shift every hour of ever day. The personnel costs alone easily total $8,000-10,000 a month. That money has to come from somewhere.

So I don't see what the problem is with a site attempting to draw in new users, especially when they're giving away about the coolest PSP prize pack you'll find anywhere. Sure, they're trying to make money because right now, the site isn't breaking even.

I am not trying to start an argument of any kind here, I like this site, and I wish to contribute the best I can. I just want to clear a few misconceptions up about another one of my favorite sites, and the above quote explains all you need to know. So as Wraggster said, let's not talk about PSPU anymore, ruining another site is not nice