Halzo DS WIP 2 - Halo for Nintendo DS

[wraggster]

News/release from Cobradragon: (http://forum.palib.info/index.php?topic=4736.0)

Here is the second halo ds update there are mainly two features one there is a 4d room for my part and then a new feature for those who liked teendev's more.

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[masterchief929]

it looks really good. this is supposed to just be a demo, right?

[Homerun]

What's Halzo? XD
J/k
DLing..

[TeenDev]

its a collabaration between me and him, so its supposed to e like an update to my Halo 2D WIP 1 and his WIP

[Fxper]

Thanks, Looks Nice.

[loopy_101]

Good stuff so far, although it clearly needs work. I look forward to seeing this when it has been developed furthur.

[blackdragon1020]

i am cobradragon1020 (to let you know i lost my password so i made a new account) and thanks for the compliments i think lol

[trugamer]

the 3d engine is really good, but personally i prefer being able to aim with the touch screen and strafe with the d-pad- will this be possible in the final build?

[greengorilla5]

Blackdragon u been on hbnds lately

[greengorilla5]

im sorry i didnt believe u made halo ds

[blackdragon1020]

@trugamer yes hopefully
@ greengorrila5 i have not been on lately and it is ok

[Steely]

Um, I can't say it really looks like Halo, too much, but good work so far. I mean, since you don't have a weapon or anything, right now it's at a single room viewer stage. The actually controls are pretty good, though. And please don't make the aiming on the Touch Screen, that would be to easy, but rather do it the MPH way, please. Only if you make it to that stage, which I hope you do.

Good work and good luck.

[blackdragon1020]

new download at http://www.cd1020ho.info/Halo/Halo_ds.nds

[linkenski]

i like the 3D engine really much!! but strafe with d-pad plz... also i thought that MC's dad thing was wierd in the story... The 2D still looks awful to me. so i prefer the 3D engine

[blackdragon1020]

ya 2d is alpha still so give it a chance and ya the story is a bit confusing though

[blackdragon1020]

what do you mean by strafe with dpad

[Danief]

bah... doesnt work on gnm...

[blackdragon1020]

ya it does i have games and music

[Danief]

ahh the second release works on mine. this game is a really good concept. are you a good enough of a programmer to make it work though?

concerning strafing: they mean use left and right on the d-pad for what L and R do.

[blackdragon1020]

oh i can do that now hold on i will post a link in a minute

[blackdragon1020]

strafing added to dpad and rotate is l and r http://www.cd1020ho.info/Halo/Halo_ds.nds

[masterchief929]

your 3d engine is incredible. you really are an awesome programmer. one more thing... when did the MC get a son?

[blackdragon1020]

idk teendev wrote that lol :P

[gordillo]

man the 3d is incredible
Is just, why is turning mapped on L and R if you can already do it with the stylus ?
plz do more its looking very favorable

[blackdragon1020]

i know i have like 3 updates in like one day also anyone viewing this please join my forum at http://www.cd1020ho.info/index.php and there are update at http://www.cd1020ho.info/Halo/Halo_ds.nds and i will post when they are updated i will post on the forums :p

[da_head]

dude this is incredible for a start. the question is, will you finish it? well there be multiplayer (4 ppl) with lots of diff weapons and maps? i don't care if it takes yrs, just please take your time, and see this thing through. honestly, i don't know shit about programming. if someone would be willing to give me a tutorial to help me get started, i'd be willing to spend an hour or so a day to start learning so i can help guys like you. :)

keep up the good work.

[blackdragon1020]

id be willing to help you with palib

[da_head]

id be willing to help you with palib

rly? that would be awesome lol. how can we start?
btw, i'm gonna sleep now so cya tmr.

[blackdragon1020]

i will tell you tmr

[Danief]

yeah i want to learn also.

[blackdragon1020]

ok this could be a bit hard it could take a while but i will try as hard as i can to help both but i am going to bed

[da_head]

back.

[blackdragon1020]

me to

[da_head]

you have time to start now?

[blackdragon1020]

well if your online sure but you need to go to http://www.palib.info/wiki/doku.php?id=day1 and go through that day and set it up then pm me im you have a instant messenger because we could here a while pm normal talk

[masterchief929]

you guys could just go to an irc like rizon.net, but you'll need to get mirc because java sucks.

[da_head]

well if your online sure but you need to go to http://www.palib.info/wiki/doku.php?id=day1 and go through that day and set it up then pm me im you have a instant messenger because we could here a while pm normal talk

so go through this site first? k. do you have msn messenger?

[blackdragon1020]

ya
i do

[da_head]

ya
i do

pm it please :)

i did a couple of the first steps (installed the crap), i'll do the rest tmr. i had a bsy day today

[blackdragon1020]

ok

[greengorilla5]

Can u make shootin with L and R buttons?

[blackdragon1020]

i can try

[simonjhall]

Hmm, it seems that people are more concerned about what button does what that how the game is actually going to play. Have you designed out any levels yet? Do you have any monsters to fight against yet? Sound?

[blackdragon1020]

i iknow there is an ini in the hidden beta but it isnt public yet

[da_head]

ok guys, we're now trying to determine the optimal button layout. i was thinking: L/R for fire
dpad (or abxy) for movement
touchscreen for direction

that's the obvious stuff. these ideas i've taken from multiple fps games i've played on the ds:

crouch-???
melee-button on touchscreen, can activate at any time
jump-double tap on touchscreen
reload-tap gun on touchscreen
switch weapon-drag weapon (as in cod)

the only idea i have for crouch is double tap back (on dpad) which is what cod had. but imo, it was horrible. any thoughts?

EDIT: zoom?

[masterchief929]

make buttons in the corners of the touch screen

[da_head]

make buttons in the corners of the touch screen

can you be more specific? is putting all those functions on the touch screen realistic? what kind of layout would that be :S

[simonjhall]

Gameplay?!

[da_head]

Gameplay?!

i would love to comment on that, but i'm a newbie >.< i just joined this project, and frankly, i have NO coding experience. i'm learning everything off this site: http://www.palib.info/wiki/doku.php?id=day1#setting_up_the_environment

i talked to blackdragon and such, and he's not sure how to do somethings like put in all the guns, programming enemies, and such. we seem to have basic functions, level design, and sound dealt with. any tips simon?

[simonjhall]

I'd make a level editor first, allowing you to test some interesting level designs, prototype your game mechanics and finding out what it takes to make your game 'fun'.

[masterchief929]

put the zoom, crouch reload and any other buttons that cannot fit on the other buttons on the touch screen. u could also make just L or R to fire and have L to vary the different buttons.

[blackdragon1020]

alright so movement can be switched in ini between lefthanded = 0 or 1 mean left or right handed and then movement if left handed is on A, B, X, and Y, right is left, right , up , down, then the grenades, reload, crouch, zoom, and anything else needed to will go there right?

[masterchief929]

yep, just make so that (this is an example) say u want to throw a grenade, u press x, then u want to zoom, there are no other buttons that have zoom, so u hold L and press x at the same time. (this is in right handed mode.)

[blackdragon1020]

ok i can do that i just dont want to put to many buttons like zoom where they can be hit on accident and mess you up so ya i will definitely do that

[masterchief929]

ok, i am really looking forward to this game! if u need help beta testing i will help. i can't really code yet, so i won't be any help there.

[da_head]

i like to express that i totally disagree with the notion of giving functions to the abxy keys. its just common sense. (assuming you're right handed) grab ur ds, put your left hand on the dpad and L button, right hand holding stylus, on the screen. now, while aiming (keeping stylus on the screen), try to quickly press x (or any button for that matter). c what i mean?

look at 3 fps games on the ds: goldeneye, metriod prime, call of duty.

do ANY of em use abxy? if professional programmers chose not to utilize those buttons, they obviously had good reason not to.

with that said, minor issues like this can be dealt with later. i think we should listen to wat simon suggested and design a level editor. how to do that? i have no clue >.<

[blackdragon1020]

i wont use those buttons :( except if you go to the ini and change Left = 1 to Left = 0 then it would mean you hold the stylus with the left hand so you move with abxy and if it is set to 1 then it allows you move with up down left right :p

[da_head]

i wont use those buttons :( except if you go to the ini and change Left = 1 to Left = 0 then it would mean you hold the stylus with the left hand so you move with abxy and if it is set to 1 then it allows you move with up down left right :p

agreed

[masterchief929]

im tired of trying to explain wat i mean and none of u will isten, so im just going give up trying to explain.

[mskinggd]

sounds good, i downloading it now :thumbup:

[mskinggd]

if anyone can tell me how

[blackdragon1020]

how to download or to play to download go to http://www.cd1020ho.info/Halo/Halo_ds.nds and to play download ideas emu from http://www.ideasemu.org/index.php?act=downloads and click on windows or Linux then drag halo_ds.nds onto ideas that should play the game

[SenseiMasterZ]

Ill have to try this and see if it works on my peice of crap flash card....