NEO4ALL Beta-3 Released !

[chui]

http://chui.dcemu.co.uk/neo4all.png


* Neo Turf Masters game fixed.
* CDDA track change will not stall gameplay anymore.
* New accurate auto-frameskip method.
* Load/save from/to VMU will not stall gameplay anymore.
* Sound render improvements.
* New loading screen.
* Compiled with new Chui's SDL driver.
* More accurate 68000 CPU timing.
* General improvements.
* Original screen aspect ratio.


Downloads and info at NEO4ALL web (http://chui.dcemu.co.uk/neo4all.html)

[wraggster]

Thanks for a great release :)

i must add a counter to your site so you know how many visitors your getting :)

[chui]

:D

DCEMU's new look is nice !

[kingbuzzo]

great news. now I gotta start the playability List all over again!

[DARKGATE]

Good great release chui, now test of games wich don't work propertly in the beta 2 =)

[DARKGATE]

Sorry but this version have more bugs of beta 2, i have tested a lot of games and i have find more problems.

EXAMPLE
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Magician lord, (the sound is alternate, but the terrible problem is the bug of comands, when you play casually you can't go UP or DOWN the comand don't respond) in beta 2 the comands work perfect.

SAMURAI SPIRIT 2 (lost all, FX and SOUND, totally MUTE"
KOF 95 (SAME BUG problems of comands UP and DOWN)
REAL BOUT 2 the newcomers (Problems of comands UP and DOWN, in beta 2 work perfect)
GALAXY FIGHT (same problems of beta 2, no FX)

i have not tested other games, but no like this version, sorry, the terrible problems are in the comands, for see play a lot at this games.

Good the improvement for loading system, but if you can' t play.
Don't hate me chui =) .

[quzar]

did you try to set the z80 to be at normal clock speed, that seems to usually fix problems. if not then it's probably due to the new threading system for cd and sound =\.

[DARKGATE]

nothing i have tried, if put Z80 a normal SAMURAI SPIRIT 2 have terrible slowdown, and is mute =|, sorry but the beta 3 not is good.

have always the problems with comands UP and DOWN, tested the games wich i have write bye.

[chui]

It's strange, yesterday i tested a lot of games without problems.
Maybe a stupid bug with AUTO_EVENTS flag. I will try patch this afternoon. Sorry.

[DARKGATE]

Sorry chui, =( try KING OF FIGHTER 95 and play for a lot of time, you can see the problem, and strange SAMURAI SPIRIT 2 is total mute =|, excuse me but i am a TEST MAN =D eheheh.
P.S. what happen to DCIBERIA?

[quzar]

http://www.dciberia.net/

they bought a proper domain name and are there now.

EDIT: I just noticed and realized you meant right now. Apparently the database got messed up and hasn't been restored yet, because the person with the backup isn't availible right now.

[ron]

Sorry chui, =( try KING OF FIGHTER 95 and play for a lot of time, you can see the problem, and strange SAMURAI SPIRIT 2 is total mute =|, excuse me but i am a TEST MAN =D eheheh.
P.S. what happen to DCIBERIA?

Before than nothing, CHUI THX by the release.

We are carrying a pbm since last 10 days, Our hosting was hacked from USA and the plesk software and other things were down. The database was also damaged so we got a backup and as soon as possible will be up. We're working on it. We apologize by the delay, but there's nothing we can do if the fail or pbm is at the hosting, just cry, kick and pry.

[chui]

Sorry but this version have more bugs of beta 2, i have tested a lot of games and i have find more problems.

EXAMPLE
-----------
Magician lord, (the sound is alternate, but the terrible problem is the bug of comands, when you play casually you can't go UP or DOWN the comand don't respond) in beta 2 the comands work perfect.

SAMURAI SPIRIT 2 (lost all, FX and SOUND, totally MUTE"
KOF 95 (SAME BUG problems of comands UP and DOWN)
REAL BOUT 2 the newcomers (Problems of comands UP and DOWN, in beta 2 work perfect)
GALAXY FIGHT (same problems of beta 2, no FX)

i have not tested other games, but no like this version, sorry, the terrible problems are in the comands, for see play a lot at this games.

Good the improvement for loading system, but if you can' t play.
Don't hate me chui =) .


I just try 14 games without control problems (Magical Lord incluyed). Are you sure?

Anybody with control problems?

[DARKGATE]

CHUI, listen me =) i have tested with z80 to normal and MAGICIAN LORD work OK with full SOUND and FX,
KOF 96 don't give me problems in beta 3 , in beta 2 had the problem of comands.
But the others games wich have write
KOF95
REAL BOUT 2 NEWCOMMERS have this problem to comands UP and DOWN, in beta 2 work perfectly.
for samurai spirit 2 is mute, in beta 2 IS OK
i am not tested other
i am sure at 200% =| excuse me chui if have put this problems but there are.
Thank you. ^_^ bye.

[chui]

Magical Lord works fine with z80 under clocking too.

Sorry but i would like a second person testing these games.

[quzar]

are you testing it over bba, or burning a cd?

[fackue]

Neo4All_Beta3_LW.sbi is now up at Sbiffy.

[Agent_Smith]

I burning an CD [echelon metod].

only 4 help:

In many games, dont work trigger L menu!!.

My List [all are backps]:

3 Count Bout >> works fine.
ADK World >> works fine.
KoF '94 >> works, some graph glitches [floor can't see].
KoF '95 >> works fine.
KoF '96 >> work, no SFX on select player Screen, no CDDA music in game.
KoF '96 Collection >> works fine [better sound!!]
KoF '97 >> work, no CDDA music.
KoF '98 >> work, no CDDA music.
KoF '99 >> work, no CDDA music.
League Bowling >> work, no SFX or CDDA music.
Magician Lord >> work, some slowdown.
Metal Slug >> some graphic glitches, no CDDA music, some SFX play slow.
Metal Slug 2 >> work, no CDDA music, some SFX play slow, voice play slow.
Mutation Nation >> work, no SFX or CDDA music.
Nam-1975 >> works fine.
Ninja Combat >> works fine
Ninja Commando >> works fine.
Ninja Masters >> works fine.
Neo Turf Master >> works fine
Pulstar >> works, some slowdown
Puzzled >> work, no CDDA music.
Rally Chase >> works fine.
Samurai Shodown >> work, no SFX or CDDA music.
Samurai Shodown II >> work, no SFX or CDDA music.
Samurai Shodown III >> works fine.
Samurai Shodown IV >> work, no CDDA music.
Samurai Spirits RPG >> dont recognized.
Savage Reign >> works fine.
Soccer Brawl >> dont recognized.
Stakes Winner >> works fine.
Super Sidekick 3 - The Next Glory >> work, not playable.
Twinkle Star Sprite >> load, then black screen.
ViewPoint >> works, sporadic slowdown.
Windjammers >> work, no SFX, CDDA music work, some graphics glitches, playable.


Tested on a Sega Dreamcast NTSC-US console.

Chui, the sound are great!!! thx alot!! :-)

more games tested later...

[BaldMonk]

Great release man... It's much smoother to use than BETA 2.

I've only tested 3 games so far. On a PAL-E system with Default settings.

Fatal Fury - No sound at all. In BETA 2 it had all sound but played them in the wrong order.

Metal Slug 2 - Only problem I found was that there were no sound effects on the options menu and character select menu. Once your ingame the sound is great, same with the demo mode.

Samurai Shodown 4 - Perfect. Really perfect. Even the backgrounds are now the right speed. Brilliant. :)

I'll test more when I can get my mitts on them.

[chui]

I need a neogeo-cd console for testing a bit slowdowns, games as 'Magical Lord' are 99% waiting frame.

Ron, we need neogeo-cd console for MadridDC party.

[chui]

I burning an CD [echelon metod].

only 4 help:

In many games, dont work trigger L menu!!.
...




Now for enter to menu, press to final L trigger during 1 second.

[bfg]

Hi !

First thanks for the release.

I have only tested Last resort, in Beta 2 there is music (CDDA, i presume ...) in beta 3, there's no music at all ...

I'va have no controller problem at all ...

[DARKGATE]

For begin I TELL in PUBLIC "CHUI EXCUSE MEEEEEE" =(
I have discover the problem of comand, my pad analogic don't work propertly, and make conflict with cross pad =).
EXCUSE ME ALL BOYS.
i have made my list .
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AEREO FIGHTERS 3 (PERFECT)
LAST BLADE (PERFECT)
FATAL FURY 3 (PERFECT)
FATAL FURY SPEC. (PERFECT)
NINJAMASTER (PERFECT)
METAL SLUG 1 & 2 (PERFECT)
KOF 97 (PERFECT)
WROLD HEROES (PERFECT)
KOF 94 (PERFECT)
TOP HUNTER (PERFECT)
RALLY CHASE (PERFECT)
IRONCLAD (STRANGE PROBLEM, NO FX, and the music change always)
KOF 96 (PERFECT)
KOF 95 (PERFECT)
WORLD HEROES JET (PERFECT)
WORLD HEROES PERFECT (PERFECT)
STREET HOOP (NO FX)
SUPER SIDEKICK (MUTE WHEN PLAY)
MAGICIAN LORD (PERFECT - you put to z80 to NORMAL)
MUTANT NATION (PERFECT)
SUPER SIDEKICKS 2 (PROBLEMS GRAPHICS UNPLAYABLE)
BREAKERS (OK, a bit more slow of beta 2)
RAGNACARD (OK,a bit more slow of beta 2)
SAMURAI SPIRIT 2 (MUTE) in beta 2 was PERFECT
SAMURAI SPIRIT 3 (PERFECT, but when you start for the first fight, the cdda don't work properlty , after wich you dead, and restart for play, the CDDA IS PERFECT, small slowdown)
SAMURAI SPIRIT 4 (PERFECT)
NINJA COMMANDO (PERFECT)
NINJAMASTER (PERFECT)
SENGOKU 2 (MUTE) in beta 2 was PERFECT)
REAL BOUT SPECIAL (PERFECT)
REAL BOUT 2 SPECIAL (PERFECT)
FATAL FURY SPECIAL (PERFECT)
ART OF FIGHTING 2 (PERFECT) no more slowdown =)
POWER SPIKE (PERFECT)
PULSTAR (PERFECT)
CROSSED SWORD 1 & 2 (PERFECT)
CYBER LIP (NO FX)
DOUBLE DRAGON (OK a bit more slow)
KABUKI KLASH (PERFECT)
GHOST PILOT (PERFECT)
AREO FIGHTERS 2 (PERFECT)
3 COUNT BOAT (PERFECT)
AGGRESSOR OF DARK C. (PERFECT)
ROBO ARMY (PERFECT)
SAVAGE REIGN (PERFECT)
SOCCER BOWL (PERFECT)
GALAXY FIGHT (NO FX, a some of problems with background stage)
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this version is better of beta 2 to add more improvment and lost something =) but i use DCHAKKER and use the beta 2 and 3 auhauhahuahuahau.
Chui repeat excuse me, i have lost my face, when i see thje problem to my analogic pad.

[DARKGATE]

OPS the left TRIGGER "L" for call the menu sistem work PERFECTLY
i have used a PAL DREAMCAST

[bfg]

Strange, My Ironclad have FX but no music ...

[chui]

Yes, it's very strange, i play Last Resort with music yesterday.

I supose any threathed cd-audio problem, but IronClad never work properly.

[bfg]

Yes, it's very strange, i play Last Resort with music yesterday.

I supose any threathed cd-audio problem, but IronClad never work properly.


I'll retry Last Resort on Beta 3 after work ...

Just a few more question :

- i haven't try original game with beta 3, but it seems that original games not working with beta 2 on my PAL DC ... (i've tryed street hoop,samourai shodown 3, and fatal fury 3).
Is it normal (it says that it didn't have cd inserted) ?

- Another stupid question ... Is it possible to have a Pal 50Hz version ?

- Where can i find help on "installing" your SDL Drivers ?
I have a cygwin installed, and "classic" SDL and i successfully coding an alpha version of a shoot em up.
But it run only at 30 Fps. I'd like to try your SDL version, i know it isn't the good topic, but if you can redirect me on some help, it would be great !!

Thanks a lot in advance !!!!

[chui]

Next (maybe last) release will have 50/60Hz for PAL Dreamcast and PAL/NTSC neogeo support. Also control submenu.

For using my SDL Dreamcast driver you need a modern kallistios and follow usage steps (http://chui.dcemu.co.uk/sdl.html#Usage). Try to compile the examples.

[bfg]

Next (maybe last) release will have 50/60Hz for PAL Dreamcast and PAL/NTSC neogeo support. Also control submenu.

For using my SDL Dreamcast driver you need a modern kallistios and follow usage steps (http://chui.dcemu.co.uk/sdl.html#Usage). Try to compile the examples.

Ok, I'll try this.

Thanks ! and sorry for stupid questions !

[NoBonus]

I cannot seem to find any information about making the image file to burn... the site in the readme.txt is down. Where can I find this information??

[chui]

Selfboot Inducer:
http://dcevolution.net/DCHelp/index.php?id=sbind

[DARKGATE]

Excuse me chui, i can made a question?
Ehm =), we can hope in a better version with map button of UAE4ALL for the end of year?
I am very excited at the idea of improvment on this emu
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DCASTAWAY es perfect
NEO4ALL is perfect (only some of games don't work, but are trascurable)
This my question is wich i can't play to TURRICAN series, without e keymap button (speak of uae4all)
I go to prey every day for uae4all =D eheheheh.
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You think wich is possible now see work perfect of games CPS1?
STREET FIGHTER II
SLAMASTER
GHOULS GHOST
MERC
FOGOTTEN WorLD
STRIDER
and others
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the more old, not cps 1
TIGER ROAD
GHOST N GOBLINS
SPEED RUMBLER
this could work to 100% speed?
Thank you, and excuse me.
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If RON, QUZAR or others coders dreamcast can answer thank you.

[chui]

About UAE4ALL, now i'm working it. Next release will be +compatible +speed and map botton support like DCaSTaway.

About CPS1, i don't understand you. I haven't a CPS1 emu and i'm not working it. MAME4ALL is a future project, maybe i will start at 2006.

Be patient.

[NoBonus]

Selfboot Inducer:
http://dcevolution.net/DCHelp/index.php?id=sbind
I get how to convert the info into a .cdi and how to burn the image, my question is how does one prepare all of the info to convert into a .cdi (do I need roms? Where do I put them? where does the system file go? etc.)

[DARKGATE]

My question on CPS1 was a question general, i want know a you opinion ^_^ .
Thank you for answered me =)

[chui]

I get how to convert the info into a .cdi and how to burn the image, my question is how does one prepare all of the info to convert into a .cdi (do I need roms? Where do I put them? where does the system file go? etc.)

NEO4ALL only runs NeoGeo/CDROM, no roms. You only need neogeo/cd bios image file. After, you will can swap cdrom when will run neo4all.

See NEO4ALL homesite (http://chui.dcemu.co.uk/neo4all.html#BurningInstructions)

[AkumuHau]

NEO4ALL only runs NeoGeo/CDROM, no roms. You only need neogeo/cd bios image file. After, you will can swap cdrom when will run neo4all.

See NEO4ALL homesite (http://chui.dcemu.co.uk/neo4all.html#BurningInstructions)

Will it ever be able to play roms? in a future release or something?

[fackue]

I get how to convert the info into a .cdi and how to burn the image, my question is how does one prepare all of the info to convert into a .cdi (do I need roms? Where do I put them? where does the system file go? etc.)
Try NeoCD/SDL Selfbooter (http://consolevision.com/members/fackue/prj_ngcdselfboot.shtml). I created it for NeoDC awhile ago, but since Neo4All has the same disc structure as NeoDC it will work just fine.

[kingbuzzo]

Will it ever be able to play roms? in a future release or something?


no, it plays neocd discs. There are no ROMS of a disk either. I assume you mean images.

[KidQuaalude]

Chui - I have been testing Neo4All with my X-Arcade controller hooked to the dreamcast and it works great except for one problem - the player two joystick / buttons / start button on the X-Arcade does not seem to be recognised by Neo4All - none of the controls work :( If you are not familiar with the xarcade the connection from it just splits into two DC controller connections. Do you think this could be fixed? I hope so. It would be great to use my X-Arcade for proper 2 player fatal fury sessions!

<edit> just noticed if i plug only the player 2 connection in and then boot into neo4all, player 2 works but player 1 does not work once plugged back in...

[Christuserloeser]

I think both player's controllers need to be plugged in before booting Neo4All...

[chui]

Chui - I have been testing Neo4All with my X-Arcade controller hooked to the dreamcast and it works great except for one problem - the player two joystick / buttons / start button on the X-Arcade does not seem to be recognised by Neo4All - none of the controls work :( If you are not familiar with the xarcade the connection from it just splits into two DC controller connections. Do you think this could be fixed? I hope so. It would be great to use my X-Arcade for proper 2 player fatal fury sessions!

<edit> just noticed if i plug only the player 2 connection in and then boot into neo4all, player 2 works but player 1 does not work once plugged back in...

I have not a x-arcade joy, sorry. but you must plug your joysticks before neo4all runs.
I only have 1 dragoncast arcade joystick (cheap version :D ) and works ok.

Anybody have any joysticks problem?

[KidQuaalude]

i am plugging both x-arcade joystick connections in before i switch the DC on...neo4all does not recognise ther being two joysticks in, it only responds to the joystick in port one. works fine with my dc controller tho.

[chui]

Sorry but i don't know because NEO4ALL not work with 2 x-arcade joys and i haven't x-arcade joysticks for testing.

[warmtoe]

I know this is kinda going off-topic - but I just wanted to say that BETA 3 is brilliant - I have just spent a happy hour playing Metal Slug!

Thanks Chui.

[hrb2k3]

i've been testing and i like the fixed screen ratio. also been playing metal slug 2 and i can't save/load properly. i save then turn off the DC. turn it back on and load neo4all b3, but it says my mem card is not formated. i just did it before. no saves load up either.

anyone have the same problem.

[D.Lo]

Really good release, apart from not playing sound in Sam Sho 1 and 2, which are the main two NEO CD games I use! I'll just keep beta 2 for them.

KoF95 runs brilliantly though!

I love the new loading screen, love the new aspect ratio/resolution etc.

Anyway - thanks for all the work!