Lonpos - First PSP Homebrew With DRM ?

[wraggster]

Xart (http://www.xart.co.uk/downloads/index.html) has released a new beta of his game for the PSP which amusingly contains DRM, not sure why the need for it but oh well


Working BETA version of the game. (http://www.xart.co.uk/downloads/files/Lonpos.zip)
Lonpos
26th September DRM (http://www.xart.co.uk/force-download.php?file=downloads/files/DATA.DRM)
Lonpos (alternately Lon-pos or LONPOS) is a logic puzzle game in which the player must fit a fixed number of beaded game pieces of various shapes, called pentominoes, to fill a set area such as a rectangle or pyramid. Lonpos was named after its creator.

Replace the DATA.DRM that comes with Lonpos with the newer 26th September DATA.DRM file.

CONTROLS
X Place/Pickup Piece
[] & O Cycle threw pieces
^ Flip piece
L & R Rotate piece
D-Pad & Analog Move piece

Please send me a message if you have issues of any kind.

Yes I know DRM may sound like a dirty word to some but the DRM in this homebrew is all about preventing someone hosting this homebrew besides me.

Youll have to download via links above, DRM in Homebrew, this could be extremely controversial

[Buddy4point0]

Sounds like a way to either make no one download your homebrew game or to make your site more popular.

[mesosade]

Uhh, just host the DRM file aswell, but yeah pretty ridiculous.

[uberjack]

Yes I know DRM may sound like a dirty word to some but the DRM in this homebrew is all about preventing someone hosting this homebrew besides me.

What if wraggster decided that he will not post news on any files that he doesn't host on his site?

What type of silliness is this?

[Darksaviour69]

the biggest reason we host files is for handyness for the user, as the original file host quite regularly goes down eventually. But its the authors right to request that we don't offer the download directly ourself.

I'm curious how the DRM works, anyone know?

[wraggster]

i post news on lotsa files we dont have on site, sometimes because of size, or maybe language or because the coder requests it, the reason most sites have a local copy is to safeguard against coders sites disapearing and all too sadly it does happen.

is drm a good or bad thing, we know in commercial games it has caused a fair amount of controversy, personally im not really bothered one way or the other, i suppsoe a good reason is to control who has the downloads.

ill be interested to know what the resonings are behind the drm. (anyway just finished watching heroes season 3 episode 2 and found out that sylar has 2 brothers and is an uncle, weird eh)

[joesnose]

sharing is caring, DRM sucks.

oooooooooooooh heroes!!!

[uberjack]

I'm curious how the DRM works, anyone know?

I'm no specialist in this particular case, but I don't think it's DRM by any official definition. I think it's just him/her shipping a file separately, to make sure that the zip file alone is useless.

[quzar]

I'm no specialist in this particular case, but I don't think it's DRM by any official definition. I think it's just him/her shipping a file separately, to make sure that the zip file alone is useless.

Which, correct me if I'm wrong, helps him manage his digital rights over the thing ;). The common cry of anti DRM people is 'DRM - Don't Restrict Me'. This is because so many modern DRM systems not only ensure that you don't set up a duplication system and crank out thousands of the thing, but have the side effect of being a pain in the ass. As long as it does not hinder ones ability to use the thing as usual there is nothing wrong with DRM.

[osgeld]

its homebrew tho!

what is the positive of using a DRM on openly available freeware?

you get to use more bandwidth and have some meaningless download stats

if this was commercial i would totally understand

[DimensionT]

You're right, it's homebrew. Which means he made it himself, and can do with it what he pleases.

If he wants to get traffic on his site, good for him. If he wants to keep it off of "certain sites", then that's his prerogative. If he wants to ensure that his project isn't played off to be the work of someone else, more power to him.

I feel like homebrew sites such as this should have the users download from the author's site more often anyway. It gives them traffic (helps with hosting), helps them keep track of downloads (popularity) and gives them more comments in a place they know to look (in their blogs).

It'd bring more attention off the files, and put it somewhere more deserving... On the authors.

[brasssmunky]

so, i dont get it.
people could just host his little drm file too could they not?

[carlitx]

its homebrew tho!

what is the positive of using a DRM on openly available freeware?

you get to use more bandwidth and have some meaningless download stats

if this was commercial i would totally understand

agreed, it makes no sense, and for that reason, i am NOT downloading the game.

[crazyhare]

The ever-living point...

I won't be downloading this, just because of the pure annoyance of it

[dejkirkby]

If the coder wants to add some sort of DRM to his release, that's his choice.
But he'll only have himself to blame if his release doesn't reach the masses OR he gains notoriety for being "the guy who tried to DRM homebrew".
That's a lose-lose in my book.

[XArt]

Why DRM is good for homebrew.

Homebrew in general without DRM will get hosted by anyone to get more hits on his/her site.

You will in future download a copy that is an older version that has a bad bug in it. With DRM that is prevented.

Without DRM one could try and hex edit the contents and present to others as his/her own work, with DRM that is not possible.

Remember Tetris with background music & sound for TIFF, well I developed that and someone else got all the credit.

So who is to blame for DRM in Lonpos, well not me.

The one that is guilty is the one that will jump at the chance to get credit for your hard work.

S.O.L.O (Software Original Location Only) was developed for homebrew and is what the DRM is in Lonpos.
Free press is hard to find and one good way of getting it was to call SOLO DRM, by doing so I have gotten a lot of free advertising press on all kinds of sites, so was it a bad choice for Lonpos to have DRM, I would say no it was the best choice I ever made.

DATA.DRM is signed to the PlayStation Portable device so it is not transferable.
First BETA release dose have a bypass for DRM ?

[carlitx]

You make some good pints, but out of pure annoyance i am not downloading or playing any homebrew that includes DRM. and by the looks of it a few others agree as well. If you want credit for your own work, don't let it get leaked and stolen, make sure your the one who announces it. if a coder lets his or her project get stolen by a Microsoft wanna be than i think it's his or her own fault for not introducing it themselves or letting it get leaked.

[jason215]

If you want credit for your own work, don't let it get leaked and stolen

i guess that the whole point of his drm ... :p
to not get it leaked or stolen (">,<)

[Cloudhunter]

DATA.DRM is signed to the PlayStation Portable device so it is not transferable.
First BETA release dose have a bypass for DRM ?

And what exactly is the point of that? So people won't be able to share your work with their friends - meaning less people play it. If it is to prevent beta tester leaks, there are ways of securing things to individual PSP's, by asking some things from them.

Cloudy

[carlitx]

i guess that the whole point of his drm ... :p
to not get it leaked or stolen (">,<)

the DRM file that he has released does not help that in any way at all, nor do you get my point.... sigh.

[XArt]

And what exactly is the point of that? So people won't be able to share your work with their friends - meaning less people play it. If it is to prevent beta tester leaks, there are ways of securing things to individual PSP's, by asking some things from them.

Cloudy

Without signing to a PSP, one could host the DRM file to others and also host a moded version with the DRM file.

The DRM file must be signed to the device within a time limit that starts from the moment you download the DRM file, this is how one can prevent the hosting of software on others sites.

also the DRM has an Application ID that must match the eboot ID

[carlitx]

It is still pointless bull flop. go make love to EA or something XArt.

[DimensionT]

If it's so pointless, why are you willing to bash people over it?

He can do what he wants. If you don't want to download it, then don't download it and leave it at that.

You complaining is just the same as people complaining that a certain emulator isn't good enough. He's giving you stuff for free, respect what he does with it.

[carlitx]

I just like emphasis on a topic, especially ones that involve such ridiculous bull flop as DRM on Homebrew. Yes he is technically "giving it away". But DRM on free software like this has to be the most idiotic thing i have ever herd of. if he wants to claim the software as his make sure not to leak it. and that's that. so as cited before. please go buddy up under the covers with Electronic Arts. oh wait you can name the offspring Electronic XArt. oh how i amuse myself sometimes.

[quzar]

Now you stop that. You've made almost half the posts in this thread and have only said that you don't like it and think it's stupid and annoying. Unless you have something new to say(and it better not be in response to this post) don't post anymore in this thread.

[XArt]

Lonpos no longer has DRM.

Lonpos v1.2 "make your level"