DaedalusX64 - New N64 Emulator for PSP Announcement

[wraggster]

Its been a while since our own StrmnNrmn has been around although i remember a PM about the hacking of DCEmu sometime in january, but the N64 Emulator for PSP has had no real new version since then bar some unofficial versions that caused some fun on the forums.

An announcement on a site that uses the StrmnNrmn (http://strmnnrmn.com/forum/index.php?topic=173) name (but not the official home) says a new coder is to take on the rather hard task of emulating the N64 on PSP:


A new Dev that came here hoping to help Daedalus and the community has declared he is going to try and tackle Daedalus! Shinydude100 came here and is teaming up with our other 2 devs that have stumbled across the Daedalus source code in hopes of bettering from where StrmnNrmn left off. His current plans are to implement a newer and improved Zilmar graphics plugin in an effort to increase performance slightly and will help compatability a bit with microcode work.

Here is some quotes from Shinydude100 about what he has planned for his first release:

"This should be supported for the PSP, and if all goes well, we should see increased performance, and even better texture rendered on the floors of games like Legend Of Zelda: Ocarina of time, and Diddy Kong Racing with actual polygons appearing. By change, i do not mean i'm suggesting, i mean i'll change the graphics plugin to an 07 graphics based Plugin which should support our PSPs. GRAPHICAL IMPROVEMENT is a BIG thing when it comes to the emulated FPS we get on Deadauls."

~Shinydude100
Deadauls Coder--Keeping it Alive...

Its supposed to be released sometime in October, lets hope its no red herring

[pibs]

Great News! For a while there I thought Daedalus was going to be left for dead.

[ICE]

Yay!!!!

[Shadowblind]

Whoo! Can't wait for the new daedalus release. Good luck Shinydude and the other coders!

[wolfpack]

3 Words...

About
Damn
Time

:p

[pspmodel1001]

Whoo! Can't wait for the new daedalus release. Good luck Shinydude and the other coders!

Same here.:D If it'll play ReVolt, I just fall in love with my PSP again.:thumbup:

[jurkevicz]

Great news! I wonder what happened to Strummn!

[Buddy4point0]

Personally, I think it's bullshit and I hope StrmnNrmn comes to straiten him out.
Let's hope I'm proven wrong.

[PSPdemon]

hmmm... ill have to wait until we see acual proof...

ill keep a eye on it though...

i will say...if it IS true... ill be very happy because n64 development has been pretty silent since last christmas...

hoping this is real...but not holding my breath ;)

Thanks for Everything,
PSPdemon

[alanparker05]

The psp homebrew scene's got a bit stagnant lately, if this is true it's finally something to look forward to

[Eviltaco64]

Great news! :)
Hopefully this will breath some new life into the PSP scene (that is, if it's released).

[gr42178]

This would be awesome! Not gonna hold my breath tho, I will believe it when I see it!!!

[mike03$$$]

hmmm.. dobt it will help compatability but let me contact wally on what he thinks

[cornervizion]

Simply looking forward to it! That's all.... Let's hope It can run the Goeman games.

[mike_jmg]

Hope they can get there

[chris-007]

I don't expect that much.
StrmnNrmn, what happened to your work with audio offloading? No time, doesn't work, lost interest?

[Eviltaco64]

This is looking oh so very fake.
Though I could be wrong of course.

[TAzz MAN]

Great and cant wait for this release

[pkmaximum]

Eh seems fake to me, just my two cents >_>

[Veskgar]

If this is true its certainly exciting news for PSP homebrew & emulation. Seeing old emulators get new life and seeing new emulators pop up is always such a rush.

[Safari Al]

I just don't see this going too far. I'd much rather wait for strmnnrmn to finish his current project, then hopefully work on daedalus some

[carlitx]

*runs in circles from excitement*

[PSmonkey]

Nothing against the guy but I wont hold my breath till I see something substantial.

I've had countless people ask to continue m64 with most not knowing what the hell is actualy involved with writing a n64 emu for psp.

Who knows though, maybe he might have an idea if he is looking to fix the gpu code but still I though I remember strm. putting alot of optimisation into the gpu code already.

[CaptainMorgan4]

I am the owner of StrmnNrmn.com and I can assure to the one's that stated this fake that this project is very real and I believe it has a nice shot at seeing good improvement. Thanks to all supporters and you can go to our forums at strmnnrmn.com to read everything Shiny has planned.

[dark heart]

i think a better use of words for this would be 'too good to be true' but I'd love to be proven wrong :)

but I'm not a little bit worried, cos I'm ditching my psp for a Pandora when it comes out :) surely 128mb of ram is appropriate for a n64 emulator, and Linux (the consoles os of choice) being a major OS I'm sure it has one tucked away in the internet.

but hell, it would be nice to play some of this on my psp while i still use one.

[Wally]

Ram isn't going to improve any N64 emulator, N64's only have 4MB of ram.. Shouldn't take anymore than 8MB to emulate.

PSP is still a much better platform to emulate N64 on :P

wally

[brandonheat8]

now that i've heard from captain morgan i can put my heart at ease and wish this project a good run and im always available for testing. :)

[tidieu626]

Hooray

[jxx2005]

can't wait
its gonna be good if they can do what the hope

[kjetil1991]

yay my psp need something new to play

[wwboy]

about time someone else took it the lead in this project

[Strongbadunit2]

I hope this new dev makes some serious progress. I highly doubt this will get far, after all there is only one StrmnNrmn :)

[dark heart]

"PSP is still a much better platform to emulate N64 on :P"

with one lousy working analogue stick, a much smaller resolution and a top cpu speed of 333 I'd have to disagree with you there.

i love psp, but lets face it, there isn't much competition between this and Pandora.
plus my psp is getting worn out :D for one, the umd won't stop making buzzing noises without a umd.

[noname1]

OH YES!! i was waiting for a new daedalus release glad someone is making a new one and yes graphical improvements are very good but we also need compatibility for more games.
And of course speed improvements i like to play mario at 100% instead of 80%.

[JLF65]

Ram isn't going to improve any N64 emulator, N64's only have 4MB of ram.. Shouldn't take anymore than 8MB to emulate.

PSP is still a much better platform to emulate N64 on :P

wally

You can also have another 4 MB on the Expansion Pack. But that 8 MB is nothing compared to the ROMs - you forget that N64 ROMs go up to 32 MB.

8 MB of system RAM, 32 MB of ROM, and whatever you use for recompiled code for the CPU means you're pushing what's available on a Slim. The Phat gets around the ROM size by using a function to fetch/store memory which determines if the page of the ROM being fetched from is in memory, and loading off the memstick if not. Not all the ROM is in memory at once, which slows things down. There's no way around that on the Phat, unless you want to restrict people from using 32 MB ROMs.

Add to that a texture cache for improved video and you can see that doing N64 on the PSP is pushing it to the limit.

[CaptainMorgan4]

If you didn't mind come by strmnnrmn.com and give our coders some of you ideas if any or any advice or anything would be appreciated.

[Zack]

Not to burst a bubble....

I am curious to know how he plans on porting the 2007 version of zilmar's graphics plugin when it is closed source.....

Porting something (and optimizing for psp) like GLN64 or Rice would be a actual possibility since they are open source...

[CaptainMorgan4]

I believe he got permission from Zilmar.

[wraggster]

is virtual memory like what they did in the xbox scene iirc possible on the PSP ?

surely that would solve the memory problems if it could be accessed fast enough etc ?

[Exophase]

PSP can't do transparent virtual memory in the same way an XBox can because there's no MMU. But an emulator w/o an MMU has to emulate every memory access in software anyway, so performing page swapping non-transparently doesn't really add overhead over what real virtual memory would give. It's actually probably faster (if memory emulation is done right). gpSP does it this way.

JLF65 seems to know what's going down, maybe he should work on this stuff :B

[TEOL]

This is good news.

Praying for No Mercy support.

[Kreationz]

Just a quick update. Myself and Wally are currently working on support for more ROMs by supporting more microcodes. As to the earlier comments about larger ROMs and morememory needed... Exo was correct in his comment and Daedalus uses memory in a similar way to gpSP, so memory size is not an real issue ATM...

P.S. The fist microcodes we are working on are for DKR.

[kryst abegnalie]

wow good news, i wish also strmnnrmn update also his own emulator, but anyway i will try it out if you release it anytime soon, paper mario still dont work in R13

[coolguy08]

Perfect timing.. thanks for keeping us posted.

[DanTheManMS]

You can also have another 4 MB on the Expansion Pack. But that 8 MB is nothing compared to the ROMs - you forget that N64 ROMs go up to 32 MB.

Quick correction, it's 64 MB max. To quote Wikipedia:

Nintendo 64 games were ROM cartridge based. Cartridge size varied from 4 MB (32 Mbit) (e.g., Automobili Lamborghini and Dr. Mario 64) to 64 MB (512 Mbit) for Resident Evil 2 and Conker's Bad Fur Day.

[JLF65]

Quick correction, it's 64 MB max.

Thanks for the correction. I hadn't realized that there were any 64 MB ROMs out.