Is this happening as we speak

[NoQuarter]

Considering the sheer number of trojans,rootkits,viruses and the like on the net these days I think something is going to happen oneday.
Is it possible since many of these malicious programs are self propagating that they will evolve much like the theory of evolution.
When these programs reproduce themselves and transmit to other computers sometimes data gets corrupted or slightly changed.Most of the time these changes adversly affect the program but what if during the millions of online transactions that occur one of these changes actually causes a change that is benificial to the program or makes it behave in an unexpected way.
The sheer number of transmissions of these malicious self propagating programs makes this highly likely in my opinion.
We could possibly see the birth of programs that humans can no longer decipher or control.
It only takes a few occurances of this to give birth to something that hides from us dynamically.
This could also cause the birth of programming languages that only infected computers understand,not humans.
What if????

[Gizmo356]

nice theory very interesting

[rokobungi]

it would have to do so within the hardware checksums (I think hard drives do this and I know most BIOS es do)

[Gizmo356]

i think this is happening

[NoQuarter]

It's also possible a human may have already written a program to do this.A program in the BIOS would have to be really small right roko?So your saying it would have to fool the md5checksums.

[Video_freak]

this is interesting. we might see the effects of this theory if we dont blow ourselves up :(

[NoQuarter]

Yeah but if we blow our selves up the internet will probably survive,It was made to withstand nuclear war.T2 anyone!

[Video_freak]

do we seriously have web servers that can withstand the effects of a nuclear bomb?

[NoQuarter]

Probably not, but the governments do underground.

[Video_freak]

ya, you got me. what if the whole planet explodes from the inside out. with all the weapons we are capable of making and putting in the wrong hands, who knows :(

[Gizmo356]

lol

[NoQuarter]

good point video freak
lol

[Video_freak]

lol
how is blowing up our beloved earth funny? i'm just messing with your intelectual powers :)

[NoQuarter]

Maybe we're laughing out of desperation.especially with all the stuff going on right now .

[Video_freak]

yah i guess your right. wheres the love everyone....
: passes around the peiece pipe: :D

[V3N0M]

lol Well i pay to see that in a movie. How about the Terminator.

[Video_freak]

lol. me too :)

[NoQuarter]

sad but true, in this case one day life may imitate art.I'm all for the peace pipe.
Man native americans got SCREWED!

[Video_freak]

ya, they were told stuff that was so far from the reality. then they got killed. i feal for them.

[NoQuarter]

Maybe one day they will see redemption.
"little kid you cold,here's a smallpox blanket"

Well If the world does goto sh** then atleast some of the survivors might have 1.5 psp's

[Gizmo356]

is it possible for you to get zapped by a pc and some how be infected with a virus lol

[NoQuarter]

If sony has it's way it will be.
sort of like forced brain firmware upgrade,don't want them running unsigned thouhts!
really though, sony either applied or actually patented human brain interface technology based on waveform interation with the human brain,seriously!

[stotheamuel]

How did you guys find out about my worm!!!!

[NoQuarter]

we've been watching you through your webcam

[Gizmo356]

i knew it was you!

[NoQuarter]

Maybe we should write THE program,seriously though maybe a little lua experimentation with evolving programs is in order.Make people stop talking trash about lua.

[Gizmo356]

muhahahaha you dont know the truth do you.

[NoQuarter]

No I don't,can I join your club?

[Gizmo356]

lol i was jokeing

[NoQuarter]

lol
It's all fun and games til somebody gets their brain wiped

[Gizmo356]

what who are you what are you talking about must upgrade

[Video_freak]

then its a brain wash party :p

[Gizmo356]

lol

[NoQuarter]

quick sombody pull the plug!

Oops looks like he got bricked!

[Gizmo356]

no you must join us.....

[NoQuarter]

complience

[Gizmo356]

hehehehe

[acn010]

people who make trojans,viruses,bla bla.are being idiots. they have purposes,like for commercial purpose or just being god creating and see how it spreads and survives.
example of a trojan: you wonder around the internet searching for porn.when finished,you turn off the comp. next day,you turn the comp,later windows popping out like around 50 pages.when manage to shut them all,you go on the internet,then a pop up appears with a crappiest offer anti spyware ever with the price of $328 for just to kill it

[NoQuarter]

I'm sure a lot of programmers who work for antispyware/trojan/virus companies have a night job.
Writing spyware/trojans/viruses
job security ya'know
Honestly 2.8 worries me because of this sort of thing:
The plugins can access programs on the memory stick
Programs can write to flash
Devhooked firmware would be an easy target as it is on the memstick and constantly reads/writes
Can you say psp botnet?
Even worse devhook can write to flash and I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to hijack this tool

[acn010]

yeah. making them with a tiny twik to make them different

[NoQuarter]

Exactly, you'd never know.unless you were checking md5 checksums
Maybe this is part of sony's plan to fight devhook,for goodness sake they put rootkits on peoples computers and would have continued if they hadn't been caught.
maybe we don't want 2.8 emulation

[acn010]

meh....
im happy what i got (porn)he he.
emule......

[NoQuarter]

No porn touches my computers ports.
STD's ya'know
I prefer mine the old fashioned paper way

[acn010]

haha.
my computer is loaded, 5GB on pics and around 35GB of vids

[NoQuarter]

Looks like it isn't the only thing loaded and ready to go off!
Just kidding with you.
funny you should bring up the porn it's, ahem, singlehandedly responsable for a massive amount of viruses
Maybe porn will end up impregnating the net with an evolving virus

[Cooe14]

This is why I use a Mac :) .

[Gizmo356]

it has begun to spread like wile fire

[Video_freak]

true, Mac's dont get that many viruses. the psp also doesnt get porn viruses ;)

[NoQuarter]

Yeah this is also part of why I use linux,not to mention the free part
But no system is completely secure EVER!
Take for instance the recently publicized driver exploit on wireless cards.
That was done to a mac,but is applicable to any computer possibly even our psp's
I'd like to check out a mac though they're interesting:)
Except for those stupid commercials,they make me feel gross
Oh,Gizmo I posted for the first time at your site go check it out:)

[Gizmo356]

no more secret psporn time damn lol

[NoQuarter]

lol
just turn your wireless switch off with your free hand gizmo
just for reference the exploit was detailed at the black hat hackers conference
the guy hacked into a mac that wasn't even on the internet ,wirelessly

[Video_freak]

for psporn, you can just download videos straight to psp then turn off the browser and watch them ;)

[NoQuarter]

yeah, thats a good policy video_freak.

[Gizmo356]

it sounds like you to have plenty of psporn expirience:D

[Video_freak]

i am the best... :D

[NoQuarter]

lol
sure does,just don't drop your psp into the toilet

[Video_freak]

hell no. i would be so pissed :mad:

[Gizmo356]

lol

[Video_freak]

oh, btw, i convinced my mom to buy that 1.52 psp from success hk. its shipping as we speak. just for my b-day to :)

[Gizmo356]

PornStationPortable

[Video_freak]

PornStationPortable (the name) was created before the psp even came out :rolleyes:

[NoQuarter]

lol, you guys are hilarious
Is something wrong with the psp you have now ?

[Video_freak]

it broke and bestbuy gave me $270 to get a new one :)

[NoQuarter]

Crap,what happened to it?thats cool you got your money from bestbuy though.
I stepped on one of mine

[Gizmo356]

nothing is wrong with mine just a lil sticky;)

[The Hombrew Hunter]

Stop with the apocalypse theories.

Those are for when we all get drunk.

As long as a virus doesn't evolve and delete all of our porn off the internet and hard drives (like in Robot Chicken :P) we won't need to worry about the apocalypse.

"It's not cool man...give us back our porn!"-George W. Bush ;P

[Gizmo356]

lol

[stotheamuel]

that is one of my fav. eps.... hell they all are... i liked the noahs ark one bestestest (correct the grammar)


EDIT: i feel nooby and here is where to go


how do i put a pic sig in... :D i made one

[NoQuarter]

keep those wipes handy guys
an evolving virus doesn't necessarily mean the end,actually quite the opposite.
It's the birth of something new
That was an episode of robot chicken?cool

[Video_freak]

Crap,what happened to it?thats cool you got your money from bestbuy though.
I stepped on one of mine
i droped it about 5 inches seriously. it fell on the worst possible angle on a chair leg.....i had that $50 bestbuy replacemnt plan. thats why they gave me the $$$ ;)

[acn010]

Pretty Small Penis (psp)

[Video_freak]

Penis In My Pants (P.I.M.P) :D

[acn010]

ha ha ha

[Video_freak]

lol :) this is turning into that best pickup line thread

[acn010]

lol, yeah!
hey, check your gifts from me!
he he he

[Video_freak]

i did. theyre awesome man thanks :cry cry:
jk lol :D

[acn010]

take care of them

[Video_freak]

i will....(saving to harddrive as we speak ;))

[NoQuarter]

Good thing this was posted in the off topic forum cause this got about as far off topic as we can get
lol
;)

[Video_freak]

ya, its about the eGift he gave me for my birthday. sorry if we're getting too off topic :o

[acn010]

ha ha.

[stotheamuel]

I still need help putting a pic as a sig