Sonys PSone Emu .........Time for the Hombrew Scene to Show Sony How Its Done

[wraggster]

Ok we all knew it was coming but who was a tad annoyed when you found out you need a PS3 before your gonna get PS1 games on your PSP.

So you need a PSP ($199), Mem Card ($100), PS3 ($600 if your lucky) and the cost of the games ($5-$10)

Over 900 Dollars to play PSone on your PSP from new. Thank God we have a great homebrew scene.

Sony messed up again, now its time to encourage those Devs with the tools to develop a PSone emu for free.

Now i do know of a great Coder (Who Knows his PSX Emulators) who is looking to develop a PSone emu for the PSP but doesnt own a PSP and the PSP would need to be a v1.5, so if any of you have a spare one even if its got a dead UMD drive and is that firmware then PM me and ill give you details. (serious people only)

[gunntims0103]

i would have gladly mailed you a spare psp, But sadly i traded it in since i already have another :(

What happened to AC, I wish i could here his thoughts on the sony's ps1 emu on the psp

Is yoshi finished dev on his ps1 emu. I think all it takes is to decript the 3.0 firmware's ps1 emu and use that as the basis for a new ps1 emu (homebrew). I could be wrong.

[wraggster]

This coder isnt AC - Hes Still working on PS1P

[AlinayG]

Lets Start a donation fund, to save up to buy one on Ebay or something :D??? cuzz if i had a extra psp i would send it right aways but i don't D;

[Virus.exe]

Wew, never knew it was that easy to get a free psp :D :P

[NoQuarter]

Damn,I just got rid of a spare 1.5 with a broken umd drive.Now I wish I hadn't.Sorry.

[brainpan]

I'm gonna check EBAY to see what is available. They usually have PSP's with brokien UMD's for around 50$ (U.S.). I also say we start a fund and see how much we can get.

[Shadowblind]

Well this is some rather good news. I just wish I could help, but my PSP got stolen.

[kiariki]

I only have my own. >_> How do you bust the UMD drive? O.o

[NoQuarter]

The broken umd drive I had resulted from a drop of a few feet :(

[splodger15]

Well this is some rather good news. I just wish I could help, but my PSP got stolen.

I am sorry to hear that

[Veskgar]

Well its true that the SONY PS1 EMU is less exciting than we had anticipated. The videos I've seen show the PS1 games running really good but I don't think 500MB file sizes make it that convenient, among other things.

It would be good to organize a donation for coders and big projects but most people don't donate.

It is clear that PSP homebrew has become such a phenomenon that it deserves a homebrew PS1 Emulator. Not to mention the pleasure it will give is all to stick it to SONY.

[NoQuarter]

Yeah,sorry to hear about your stolen psp shadowblind :(
Screw sonys official PSX emu,homebrew can do it better.

[mavsman4457]

I would gladly donate money. Probably $20. Is there an email address that I can send it to? Come on guys, even those who have never donated before, think of the cause that this is going to. Do you want to pay $5 per each game for the Sony emu or just a couple dollars for a homebrew emu with better features, free games, and the relinquishment of all of your other homebrew? I'd say the second one. Please donate. Wraggster, put down an email address and the money's in the bank. Let's go homebrew scene!

Edit: Actually I don't think I would like the relinquishment of all of my homebrew. I would prefer the salvation of it!

[Psyberjock]

Do you want to pay $5 per each game for the Sony emu or just a couple dollars for a homebrew emu with better features, free games, and the relinquishment of all of your other homebrew? I'd say the second one. Please donate.

Uhh, "relinquish" means "give up." I would hope that the new emulator wouldn't make us give up our homebrew.

If there were a paypal account listed here in a post from Wraggster, I would give a few bucks.

[AlinayG]

Lets just hope he reads these posts and makes a account for the donation =/

[CaptainMorgan4]

Anyone know when Yoshi plans to add the Dynarec engine to PSX-P? Also when I play RE2 I can't aim my gun to shoot the zombies, what's the aiming button (I tried everything!?)? I just keep dying after trying to RUN past every zombie.


ps. Sorry for being a little off topic

[jimjamjahaa]

can i ask how has sony protected against these ps1 games being distributed via bit torrent?

because to be honest, a policy as stupid as requiring a ps3 deserves to end in piracy

[Jpdeathblade]

I too would send one but neither of my two fit the description. I got a 3.0 and a 2.71 Se-B'' (soon C)

But if the coder wants I can test it for him (my 2.71 runs in 1.5 kernal or i can easly downgrade to 1.5 through recovery mode, i think)

[Jonesyxxiv]

I too would send one but neither of my two fit the description. I got a 3.0 and a 2.71 Se-B'' (soon C)

But if the coder wants I can test it for him (my 2.71 runs in 1.5 kernal or i can easly downgrade to 1.5 through recovery mode, i think)

You need to update your sig. It says you have a 1.5 and a 2.82

[mavsman4457]

Uhh, "relinquish" means "give up." I would hope that the new emulator wouldn't make us give up our homebrew.

If there were a paypal account listed here in a post from Wraggster, I would give a few bucks.

Hahaha, I am stupid. I was thinking the opposite. Salvation was what I was looking for!

[lumisi]

The problem with ps1 and N64 emulators is that coders don't have time to always work on them and then discontinue them because they lose interest leaving us with half ass emulators.

[mavsman4457]

The problem with ps1 and N64 emulators is that coders don't have time to always work on them and then discontinue them because they lose interest leaving us with half ass emulators.

That's true. If I donate my money to someone then they had better actually do the emulator.

[mikebeaver]

It is true that sometimes people do leave emu's unfinnished, but the majority of the time there life outside such as work etc just begins to pile up, many reasons,but as we have seen PSX-P is comming along if a little slowly but is still moving, and there was word that strmnnrmn hadnt given up on deadalus, he is just V.busy, fingers crossed hey, keep the faith.

[steven1980cad]

Hi all,

I would gladly donate a few pounds via paypal for this cause.

The problem is so many fake donation schemes its hard to tell genuine ones from the fake ones.

Im sure wraggsters is for a genuine cause though.

Good luck psp coders. (fantastic work fanjita and ditlew on the fw3.00 decrypter).

[BazzaLB]

Eh? What happened to the PS1 emulator for PSP that wraggster was "Beta Testing"? Did I miss something? or did this turn out to be yet another vapourware product that gets plenty of news but not much substance.

[AvengedSevenfold Fan]

SONYS PS1 EMU IS NOT A REAL EMU! all it is ps1 games ported to the psp for sale to be downloaded onto ur mem stick. if it were a real emulator, then u could run ripped games. (off of discs, not pirated)

[yoshinatsu]

SONYS PS1 EMU IS NOT A REAL EMU! all it is ps1 games ported to the psp for sale to be downloaded onto ur mem stick. if it were a real emulator, then u could run ripped games. (off of discs, not pirated)

No, it's just that YOU are the noob.
Those people must know much more than you, since they released the source of the EMU (and not player, its an ACTUAL emulator, it's just that Sony made their own format, PLUS they're locked with a unique code to be used only by ONE PS3 and ONE PSP.

Well done people, for decrypting 3.01, can't wait for Devhook.
You can do it Dark_Alex!

[hlide]

Hello. I'm hlide, the lead developer of yapse4all (formerly known as YAPSxP). yapse4all is a PS1 emulator designed from the ground up specifically for the PSP. I have been working on a dynamic recompiler for this project and with guidance from Exophase (PSP's gpSP author), and ZodTTD (psx4all's developer), this will be the biggest advancement in Playstation emulation. Instead of making a port of an emulator designed for overpowered PC's, this project's focus is on the PSP's hardware and we plan to take full advantage of it. By contributing a PSP to yapse4all developers, you will see a high quality PS1 emulator on the PSP, finally. Thank you!

[Zion]

sounds great man :D

[zodttd]

Hi hlide!
Thanks for the support and I really enjoy this project already. This is definitely going to be a rarity for homebrew emulation on a handheld. To have something of this scale written specifically for a certain handhelds hardware is a great idea. With the PSP's hardware this should be exciting to squeeze performance out of this neglected handheld's secrets such as it's VFPU.

Thanks for the news post Wraggster. :)

[Lodis]

I would donate a 1.5 Psp but I do not have enough faith in projects such as these anymore. I could imagine donating a Psp only to hear that the project had been discontinued.

I remember the words of Pacmanfan when he first started work on his Ps1 Psx emulator as seen below:

''PSPSOne is more than an emulator to me. It's a legacy, It's a playable history of video games perfectly preserved from the 90's.

PSPSOne is a promise, it's a promise of being able to play thousands of awesome Playstation games on a whole new portable platform.''

I am sure many will be happy to donate to the project though.

[mavsman4457]

Hello. I'm hlide, the lead developer of yapse4all (formerly known as YAPSxP). yapse4all is a PS1 emulator designed from the ground up specifically for the PSP. I have been working on a dynamic recompiler for this project and with guidance from Exophase (PSP's gpSP author), and ZodTTD (psx4all's developer), this will be the biggest advancement in Playstation emulation. Instead of making a port of an emulator designed for overpowered PC's, this project's focus is on the PSP's hardware and we plan to take full advantage of it. By contributing a PSP to yapse4all developers, you will see a high quality PS1 emulator on the PSP, finally. Thank you!

Are you the person that we are supposed to be donating to? If so then, give us your paypal account and I'll donate right away. After wraggy verifies that I should donate to you. Also, keep us updated as to how much money you have gotten. Check your PM's too.

[YourStillWithMe]

Wow you are all still complaining about the price of the ps3 whew i feel bad for you it runs linux, a 60GB hard drive that can b pulled out to put in an even bigger HD, HD compatible, plays music vids photos etc, connects to the ipod so you can charge it, exchange media through the psp, ipod, camera, etc can create partitions on the HD for linux, windows, or Yellow Dog, download demos, trailers, and full games on the ps store, connect your psp to it and use it as a remote controller, import audio cd's to the system, play games while listening to music, better graphics then the 360 and better loading times hmmm and uhh its been out for less than a week and people already have linux, snes, and nes running yeah its a BAD idea to buy a ps3 minus Zelda:Twilight Princess and the Wii is nothing.

PS3 + Blu-Ray = Amazing

Wii + Zelda = Cheap people who cant keep up with gaming

Even if the Wii beats the ps3 in sales dont forget that the system is a good 250 dollars more and on some system cases (60GB) 350 dollars more so if the ps3 sells even half as the Wii its still beating them.

and wraggster-if my brother will give up his psp i will contact to you. I would be more than happy to help the psp scene!!!

[zodttd]

I hope this is taken the wrong way...
PacManFan took a different route than this project though. PMF was taking a PC Playstation emulator known as PCSX, and was attempting to write a dynamic recompiler and VFPU assembly instruction version of it's GTE.

Basically, as shown by the source left by PacManFan, he was trying to take an existing emulator and make it more suitable for the PSP. I imagine he found out what I had during my emulation attempts of the PS1 on handhelds...PCSX was a work in progress. It not only was incomplete, it was designed for PC's. It's not suited for handhelds when it comes to performance available right now.

This project is not vaporware. I have seen some of the code hlide has been working on, and its quality is amazing. He knows exactly what he's doing. He of course has a PSP and is familar with it's hardware. After speaking with Exophase and hlide, I too would definitely be suited for PSP development, but I do not currently have one.

I have already been through the whole process of getting a ps1 emulator up and running. I have done so with the psx4all project on the GP2X, Sharp Zaurus, and iStation V43.

In fact, I too have already written a PS1 R3000A -> MIPS32 dynarec that is compatible with PCSX (e.g. PSXP) but had to turn down Yoshihiro's request for the dynarec. This dynarec, although modified, is already working on the MIPS32 processor based iStation V43 version of psx4all.

So there is plenty of potential here.
This is basically the best chance PSP users have for a truly PSP specific homebrew PS1 emulator.

I truly believe hlide is capable of this emulator, and has already shown me he knows what he's talking about. Do not write this emulator off too quickly. I'm speaking from expierence. :)

[hlide]

Are you the person that we are supposed to be donating to? If so then, give us your paypal account and I'll donate right away. After wraggy verifies that I should donate to you. Also, keep us updated as to how much money you have gotten. Check your PM's too.

I prefer not since I'm not this right person who needs a PSP. I just wanted to be sure that people did know for which project this psp would be. I suppose you must see with Wraggster since he is the person who starts this post. :)

Thanx for your support !

[zodttd]

:)

[AvengedSevenfold Fan]

SONYS PS1 EMU IS NOT A REAL EMU! all it is ps1 games ported to the psp for sale to be downloaded onto ur mem stick. if it were a real emulator, then u could run ripped games. (off of discs, not pirated)


No, it's just that YOU are the noob.
Those people must know much more than you, since they released the source of the EMU (and not player, its an ACTUAL emulator, it's just that Sony made their own format, PLUS they're locked with a unique code to be used only by ONE PS3 and ONE PSP.

Well done people, for decrypting 3.01, can't wait for Devhook.
You can do it Dark_Alex!

YOU are just an asshole. im not a noob, i just dont think that this is a real emulator, i think that its a way to get ppl to upgrade and a buisness scam. **** you asshole. u have 16 ****ing posts dont call me a noob. go have sex with sonys president.

[emuking]

actually it's worth more than $1000, you got to remember taxes and all that other crap, a grand is not worth playing psone games :(

[emuking]

damn i had a spare 1.5 but i traded it in to buy a wii, i could of mailed it to ya for free if i still had it

[Cloudhunter]

YOU are just an asshole. im not a noob, i just dont think that this is a real emulator, i think that its a way to get ppl to upgrade and a buisness scam. **** you asshole. u have 16 ****ing posts dont call me a noob. go have sex with sonys president.

He is also right. It is a real emulator, they just want us to only play their games to make sure we legally own the games.

Cloudy

[AvengedSevenfold Fan]

ok, he was out of line though

[Basil Zero]

hopefully a more compatiability psx emu will come out soon thanks to this release lol

[F9zDark]

Wow, so this mystery coder who has been making a PSP PS1 emu doesn't even own a PSP??

I suppose I should thank him for his efforts first and foremost. And then I suppose I should ask:

Why didn't you mention the bit about the spare PSP earlier? Donations could have been gathered for a homebrew enabled PSP on ebay or a spare could have been delivered a long time ago.

[Jpdeathblade]

Wrong coder =P
Ac Hobo is making and PS1 emulator and he has a PSP (to my knowlage)
This is a new guy, Lets hall him AC Homeless =P
He dose not have a PSP but knows his way around a PS1

[Cloudhunter]

ok, he was out of line though

And you weren't?

[LilSwish722]

hmm. if i had the money for a second psp i would send it in but im a 14yo broke kid lol

[mavsman4457]

:)

Aha! So you are the person. I would gladly donate, and as you can see I am desperate for a PS1 emulator, to you if wraggy endorses it and if there is an available paypal account to send it to. Just say the word. I can't wait for these emulators.

[JKKDARK]

yeah, I prefer homebrew emulators because I will not get a PS3 =P

[watupgroupie]

Well i have a perfectly working 1.5 psp why can't i just test everything for him through email i don't see anything wrong with that.

[Jpdeathblade]

I think he should get some beta testers...where lets say he makes a build, he can send it to some people and let them test it.

I will gladly test any program (that dosent write to the flash... maybe one of these if i get recovery back)

[ExcruciationX]

...I have been working on a dynamic recompiler for this project and with guidance from Exophase (PSP's gpSP author), and ZodTTD (psx4all's developer), this will be the biggest advancement in Playstation emulation. Instead of making a port of an emulator designed for overpowered PC's, this project's focus is on the PSP's hardware and we plan to take full advantage of it. By contributing a PSP to yapse4all developers, you will see a high quality PS1 emulator on the PSP, finally. Thank you!
Cool! That's going to be awesome! All we need now is a fullspeed N64 emulator.

I was thinking we could just crack the official one, and distribute it via P2P.

[zodttd]

If only programming "blindly" was as easy as making a build and having it tested. There are times, especially with embedded/handheld development that a new build must be tested, then a new build be made to compare to the last build, and repeat the cycle. This is even more so the case early on in a project.

Hlide is leading this project, and he has a PSP.
I believe someone is able to donate a PSP to me now though. I'll know for sure within a week it seems.

I appreciate the support everyone! :)

With so much talent working on this project it will definitely be exciting to follow!

Oh, I believe there's an official announcement of this project, yapse4all, at: www.pspgen.com

Thanks!

[aries2k4]

Ya, this sounds real promising. I´ve been keeping an eye on Hlide since I read a few of his posts, a couple of exophases too a while back. I think this project can have enormous potential.
I don´t have a gp2x but I was looking into it a while back and I ran across your name zodttd. I´m real glad to hear your joining the project and psp programming for the psp. This sounds great guys.:thumbup:

edit
Lol, some of these guys just want to get there hands on a beta;) coding blindly, come on
is it really to much to want to have a psp if your going to code for it:rolleyes: ,lol

[m0th]

Silly question. This thread was started by wraggster so we all know its legit in HIS eyes. But what I don't understand is a coder with the talent to make a PS1 emulator comparable to Sony's, can't afford to buy a PSP? It's 150$ for a refurb. As someone mentioned 50$ for a non-working UMD. With that kinda skill, Im assuming this person is making a decent enough living to afford 150 bones. Just my opinion is all. I know if I was very confident that I could make a PS1 emulator I WOULD buy one just ta do it, if I was successful, Id prolly get bought out by Sony, have an awesome job, and much Homebrew fan recognition.. Worth 150$ if ya ask me.

[Jpdeathblade]

Ya it dose sound silly but if you do think about it most peeps here are 13 to 18 or 20. And a few older then that.

All im saying is that hes probley got better things to spend money on. I got my first psp for half price (dad payed the rest), and my second was my bros b-day president (he never uses it, so i have taken it under my wing)

Now again, he probley dosent even have an ebay account either. I dont know the whole ebay thing but im pritty sure you need some payment type that hes not old enough to have (paypal, credit card, etc). So again there is another flaw. Now if we were to get a donation link up, give the money to W, and have him send a psp to AC Homeless then ya i can see that happening more then him getting his own.

[m0th]

Let's say he's underage, where's his parent's support? If he's someone's 14 year old son or daughter that believes they can code it, than the parents should be supportive and buy him/her one. If he/she has already demonstrated coding skills with them, than they should realize how far their child can go.

[azidahaka]

i'm intereted in this... but what about ps1p that wraggster showed us? i would wait to its release before donating.....

anyone with fresh news on that please say something!

[m0th]

Ive tried all the latest and greatest ps1 emulators and they are extremely slow. Than I saw the Official PS1 emulator from sony in action, running ridge racer... seems to run perfect. I just say wait for someone to emulate 3.x firmware (hopefully the peeps from devhook) and go from there. For all we know , we might just need the firmware and make PS1 ISOs PSP compatible.

EDIT: Just a thought or 2. Anyone know how the current delivery system works? It involves the ps3 so does that mean the games you buy are downloaded to the ps3 and you gotta be within proximity to play the games via wireless from the ps3? That wouldnt work, I wouldnt think cos of the transfer rate. And what about Sony eventually making so all you need is the psp? Does that mean you need a card big enough to hold a game up to 650-700 megs in size? IF so, well, 3.x will be cracked and and if its some sorta modded iso that only works for the psp than people will just host/trade the games they actually bought and it'll be all over torrent, newsgroups and p2p in no time.

[belialone]

Anyone know how the current delivery system works?

yes i do
you have to have a psp (3.01 FW) and a PS3 (newest FW) and a Internet connection via PS3
and yes you'll need to have a big memstick

the only time i would use that emu is if sony would buy me a new psp (to update) and a PS3 plus an internet flatrate

[LDChen]

Hello,
please excuse this (perhaps stupid) question, but did somebody see how this PSX emulator made by Sony works?
I haven't understood if sombody already saw it in action or not.
Of course, I'm excluding that video at conference with the first Ridge Racer running
Btw, they could also show a better game than RR1...:rolleyes:

Sincerely,

LDChen

[one winged angel]

m0th you sound like a noob to me in the psp scene

[zodttd]

I can normally afford a PSP. It's a small purchase. But right now I really need to conserve and stick to a budget. It's not a required purchase, and can become a "money pit", so I've always said I wouldn't purchase one.

Luckily though, someone is offering a PSP ready to go.

LDChen: I too would like to know the answer to your question. Btw, how's FPSEce going? Mind some competition? ;)
To me Ridge Racer 1 was a great thing to have them show running on the emulator, since it's so poorly translated and tends to run very slow on most Playstation emulators compared to other titles. To most people not involved in PS1 emulation, it's a pretty poor choice to show them RR1 videos.

[m0th]

m0th you sound like a noob to me in the psp scene

Actually I am. I've only had my PSP for about 4 monthes. WHy do I sound stupid? Good chance I have more years of computer knowledge than you have years living. I don't mean that as an insult I'm just saying.... just cos someone is new to A scene doesnt mean they aren't bringing years of experience in similar hobbies/interests. if you like, I CAN be a newb and start asking stupid questions without reading the forums and their stickies. :)

[infernomax]

Start a paypal donation fund... Ill chuck $5 your way, if everyone else that replied here do you will easy have enough

[hlide]

Start a paypal donation fund... Ill chuck $5 your way, if everyone else that replied here do you will easy have enough

ok, I want to end this post because I'm very unconfortable with donation. When I posted this advertisement, I was asked to explain the reason in case of someone can claim to be the "great coder" and ask for this donation to blind people. Personally, i'm against this donation and i think it was an error : I shouldn't have accepted it.

So please don't donate ! I think zodttd, if he wants to work on a psp, would find one.

Now about the project. It's still going on. Slowly because I can code only at weekends. I can post here because I have internet at work especially when bored. And yes, this project will be done at my pace, not at a hype pace.

Regards.

[mikebeaver]

Keep up the good work then Hlide, dont worry if it takes a long time to work on...as they always say "good things come to those who wait.." and well living in England kinda means waiting for EVERY good entertainment sollution anyway, thanks for the work you already did.