Virtools — a New PSP Game Engine

[TacticalBread]

A new game engine for the PSP. It was used it Konami's Online Chess Kingdoms, so it appears it's for official PSP developers, not for homebrew :(
http://www.youtube.com/v/CDJdLGsxAWU

[gymnotropic]

http://www.studica.com/Virtools/

Unless I'm mistaken, you're able to buy it for $141 here.

[toto]

cool
there are online demos at this link:
http://www.virtools.com/applications/index_technology.asp

[S34MU5]

That video is N-I-C-E

[Apoklepz]

The student pack (I'm guessing it's pretty limited) costs $141.00...Take a closer look at how much the expansion pack libraries go for...GULP! I couldn't afford that even if I was Donald Trump's nephew.

Good to know...nonetheless.

[gunntims0103]

wow this is nice. So you create a game then copy it to a umd and play it?

i wish this was for homebrew so that we could just create 3d games and convert it to an eboot..

[paco1984]

realy nice tho. if i had the time id realy like to design something on that.

[Amiga]

looks like super stardust for the amiga.

[d3v1l]

its nice though the movies on the psp with the games look really fake...the screen of the psp never moves n when the ingame camera moves the real camera does too..n the psp is not 100% steady though the screen on the psp is...

[gdf]

wooooohooo ive only seen 12 secs of the video so far out of 3 mins on this thread. dial up all the way!

[S34MU5]

Guntims.
zion downloaded it so you can ask him :P

[gunntims0103]

???

zion actaully has this :D

i have to ask him some questions.

i wonder if its hard to work with and if a coder could port it to a new complier that complile in c/c++

i dought this would work though

[Emeriastone]

So claim you're a dev and then make homebrew!

[gunntims0103]

i wonder how zion even acuired it.

i also wonder what programming launguage this runs in. It says its a game engine and has its own code. So maybe it runs on its own launguage.

I really dont know

[yaustar]

Same here.

It uses its own scripting language (VSL).

It is basically a drag and drop interface with support for extra functionality with scripting. (Think Game Maker in 3D and High End).

http://www.virtools.com/solutions/products/virtools_4.asp
http://www.gamemaker.nl/

Looks like they are trying to target small companies/teams like Indies to decrease development costs.

[gunntims0103]

wait do you actually have to order a installation disk?

wish it were a download..

I wonder how does it get accessed through the psp. a eboot???

[Dom29]

try searching for it on a torrent site, it gets load of results, just a tip ;)

EDIT: removed link :)

[yaustar]

No, as far as I know this was designed for commercial developers so I be guessing you need the development equipment to run the compiled files properly. I could be wrong and it would be playable in an EBOOT format.

Chances are you can download from their support site but you still need to contact them for a developers' license and possibly an account for the support site.

Dev kit: http://psp3d.com/pspdevkit.JPG

Dom29: Remove that link


So claim you're a dev and then make homebrew!
Won't work. You need to give the name of the company (and they will run background checks), then you need to pay the full license fee to even get your hands on the tool.

Hell, to even get hold of the whitepaper, I need to actually own the company or at least be relatively high up in the ladder.

http://www.virtools.com/solutions/products/requestform.asp

[carlitx]

wow this is nice. So you create a game then copy it to a umd and play it?

i wish this was for homebrew so that we could just create 3d games and convert it to an eboot..

well maby some homebrew genuis will be able to do it...*cough*Dark_Alax*cough*......well as i said maby some one will hack it for us:p

[gunntims0103]

pfff...

if theres a fee they can keep there program i won't pay for a dev program that i probally won't even know who to use....

[yaustar]

well maby some homebrew genuis will be able to do it...*cough*Dark_Alax*cough*......well as i said maby some one will hack it for us:p
I hope he won't. What you suggesting is flat out illegal and can get him into serious trouble.

In short, this is for commercial developemnt. Don't expect it to ever appear for homebrew development unless for some insane and stupid reason the company decides to go against Sony (which is commercial suicide, no other commercial game developer would touch it again due to pressure from Sony) and release it for homebrew use.

[gunntims0103]

well zion seems to have it maybe he can give us more information when he gets on...

[yaustar]

Unless he has a legit copy, he has to consider that Virtools may be able to identify any builds from their own software which puts him in legal trouble. It doesn't help that he publically announced that he downloaded it on his own site forum.

Edit: thinking about it, the officially PSP development SDK should only compile the executable to an ELF which can be packed into a PBP so it *might* be possible to distribute a game via an EBOOT. Don't quote me on that though.

[DPyro]

Interesting...Will have to see how this works.

[yaustar]

Not really, due the fact that the cost and the prerequisites to acquire the tool legally is outside most (if not all) home developers reach.

[benn]

konami online battle chess bollox.
the funny thing is when you think
"chess for psp" i bet the first thing you think of is, i wonder how konami can make that more interesting.
being a fan of chess, i thought the same thing and rented it.
what i then found out was that konami had not taken the logical approach... chess, great game, but how can we make it better? instead, i think the konami meeting went like this:

hmm. chess. great game. how can we make it slower. more irritating. more tedious. reduce the enjoyment. oh, i know... voila. one seriously crap chess game. oops. now its crap no one will buy it. what do us marketing guys do when we have a piece of crap no one will buy? that's right... we give it a crazy long name that makes it sound cool for the kids.

so in the short synopsis you have witnessed the everything that "super battle chess kings of online battle joy joy chocobo" has to offer.

[vanle]

Alright, just wait till it gets hacked/cracked. Yes it's illegal, but if someone were to publish it from any non western country, they'd get away with it. I highly doubt that the company would go after some nerd in the middle of china.

[appie01]

i've got it :D
i was looking on newzbin and
there it was Virtools im installing it right now
but the problem is i cant code :(

[yaustar]

i've got it :D
i was looking on newzbin and
there it was Virtools im installing it right now
but the problem is i cant code :(
Then quite simply, don't bother with it. It wasn't designed for people like you and is a waste of bandwidth.

[Apoklepz]

^^^lol^^ you got his hopes down...C'mon yaustar...it's christmas! Don't bee a Grinch!....Not that I care.

[yaustar]

Hey, I am saving him from exceeding his monthly bandwidth quota. That's how generous I am ;).

But seriously, it isn't designed for inexperienced developers.

[Apoklepz]

Oh, but of course...I was just being sarcastic.

Anybody with experiece have a hand at it, yet?

[dagger89]

Good thing I don't have a bandwidth limit... Plus RS premium accounts make it all the more betterl... Time to look into this...

[carlitx]

bandwidth?

[appie01]

Good thing I don't have a bandwidth limit... Plus RS premium accounts make it all the more betterl... Time to look into this...

thats what i tought but yaustar was right it
was for nothing i cant even make a pong
game but it was fun to see what those dev's
use to make commercial games even if you
don't understand a thing of it but maybe
there will come something good out of it if
someone with more experience with coding
can make some good games out of it :thumbup:
(maybe yaustar) :D

[sony-bau]

a little expensive?!!!

[Produkt]

You'd be surprised, I was able to attain a copy of the reality engine (currently owned by Epic)when I prosed that I was the lead artist for a new development studio.

Within 2 days they sent me information on how to get into the trial system and 2 demonstration keys.

You might get away with it :P