The first 2 years: PSP has sold better in the US than PS1, DS, more

[wraggster]

via pspfanboy (http://www.pspfanboy.com/2007/03/16/the-first-2-years-psp-has-sold-better-in-the-us-than-ps1-ds-m/)

Misinformed reader comments across gaming blogs (such as Joystiq) are becoming increasingly frustrating. As we approach PSP's 2-year anniversary, many gamers seem to believe PSP is somehow a failure. Objection! If we align sales data to look only at the first 24 months of a console's US life, we'll see that PSP has actually done better than most other consoles, including the original PlayStation 1, and Nintendo DS.

The numbers and charts are provided by VG Charts, and they document a truth that may be hard to swallow. Please note that these numbers only cover US sales. Regardless, the following data should provide compelling evidence that PSP is not a failure, at least in terms of units sold.

PSP versus PlayStation 1:

The original PlayStation turned out to be one of gaming's most popular systems ever. But, looking at the first two months of PS1's life, one can see that PSP has had much more momentum. While PSP may not match PS1's final sales figures, Sony can certainly be proud that their handheld has been so successful.

PSP versus Dreamcast:

No contest here. Sega's last console, beloved by many hardcore gamers, didn't have enough in it to even get close to what Sony's been doing with PSP.

PSP versus Xbox:

It seems like Sony's PSP matches the original Xbox the closest in terms of sales momentum. The sales for the first two years of each console's life are pretty close to each other, with PSP having a slight advantage at the end of month 24.

PSP versus Gamecube:

Looking at the first two years of Nintendo's last generation console, one can see that PSP is consistently outpacing Gamecube. One thing's very clear: there was more demand for PSP at $250 than there was for Gamecube at the same price.

PSP versus Nintendo DS:

Looking at the first two years of sales of PSP and the first two years of DS, one can see that PSP has actually sold better than the cumulative sales of DS and DS Lite. While the recent months have been in Nintendo's favor, it's foolish to think that Sony is trailing that far behind.

PSP versus Xbox 360:

Think Microsof'ts Xbox 360 is doing well? Xbox 360 actually sold less in its first year than the PSP did in its first 12 months. Sure, 360 had shortage problems at launch, but misinformed gamers seem to disregard these errors.

PSP versus PLAYSTATION 3:

There isn't enough data to see where PS3 will end up, but PSP's launch has easily outperformed Sony's newest console offering.

Conclusion
Is PSP a failure? Definitely not. However, it could be even more of a success with better support from Sony. Clearly, Sony is doing something wrong if gamers have painted this inaccurate, fatalistic vision of PSP's doom. With PSP having started off with more momentum as PS1, why shouldn't Sony try to match the wild success of their first gaming console? The dream to have "PSP" as ubiquitous as "Walkman" doesn't have to seem like an improbability.

[Buddy4point0]

now thats what im talkin about

[The King]

yea ur right man yea

[Veskgar]

Glad to see that different perspective showing that the PSP is in fact a winner. So the hardware is selling and now the quantity of great games matches or exceeds the Nintendo DS. So what's next? I think the PSP's WiFi needs to be better utilized. I would like to see a social networking sort of dashboard similar to XBOX Live and would like to see developers create more games to use that sort of infrastructure network play.

I think there is lots in store for the PSP. And with a new "PSP Lite" pretty much confirmed now, I would think that commercially speaking the PSP will be a major part of SONY's agenda for some time.

[JKKDARK]

It's only in the USA. Now somebody please post info worldwide

[Makaveli777]

It's only in the USA. Now somebody please post info worldwide

The U.S counts too you know. The U.S is a large percentage of sales so you really can't discredit it.

[JKKDARK]

The U.S counts too you know. The U.S is a large percentage of sales so you really can't discredit it.

Don't you understand what's worldwide? I'm talking about the total sales (USA, EU and Japan)

[Basil Zero]

Don't you understand what's worldwide? I'm talking about the total sales (USA, EU and Japan)

stop acting like a fanboy

if u look at the sales, and the cost of the psp and ds, its practically ALMOST same amount of money making , considering the fact that PSP is like about 70 dollars more than a DS.

DS is selling more because its cheaper, and PSP is still selling, not as much as the DS, but for a system thats selling that amount for what it costs, is actually surprising

[Adrenalin]

LMAO! What a funny attempt, only able to come from pspfanboy.

notice how they focus only on the first 24 month, and compare it to systems that were mostly failures ie. dreamcast, gamecube.

after 24 months ds beats the shit through psp everywhere!

[Makaveli777]

Don't you understand what's worldwide? I'm talking about the total sales (USA, EU and Japan)

I understand that, all I'm saying is that just because it shows only USA sales doesn't make it irrelevent or make it not count. Because the USA is a big part of the market thats all.

[Cokemusic]

I like the psp but this info looks kinda misleading.wether we like it or not the PSP isn't selling as well as retailers would like it to.

[JKKDARK]

stop acting like a fanboy
LOL I have a PSP and not a DS. Yes, that's a fanboy :rolleyes:


if u look at the sales, and the cost of the psp and ds, its practically ALMOST same amount of money making , considering the fact that PSP is like about 70 dollars more than a DS.

DS is selling more because its cheaper, and PSP is still selling, not as much as the DS, but for a system thats selling that amount for what it costs, is actually surprising
Nintendo is getting more money on handhelds.
Also can you tell me the best seller PSP game? Wipeout pure, right? Only more than 1 million copies worldwide (LOL). Total PSP game copies sold: 47+ millions world wide (LOL)
For the DS, there are games like new super mario bros, nintendogs and brain age selling more than 8 millions copies worldwide. Total DS game copies sold: 154+ millions worldwide.

[Ichijoe]

LOL @ S0NY's®™ Spin Machine!!
In a World where the GBA-SP trounced the PS3™.
Only SCEA™ could come up with some stupid Sh*t like this...

Oh well I get back to enjoying my XBOX360™ and perhaps consider droping some Cash on the DS Lite.™
For all there 'Kiddy' Crap that People ~like me~ used to berate Nintendo™ over, I'd have to admit that Nintendo™ would seem to have a better understanding of what it is I want.
i.e. Games, and not another "Media Player", this is why I already shelled out €300.00(EUR), on an iPod™ for, it does what it said on the Tin, and I do not expect any more from it...

[IM back!]

[QUOTE=JKKDARK;


Nintendo is getting more money on handhelds.
Also can you tell me the best seller PSP game? Wipeout pure, right? Only more than 1 million copies worldwide (LOL). Total PSP game copies sold: 47+ millions world wide (LOL)
For the DS, there are games like new super mario bros, nintendogs and brain age selling more than 8 millions copies worldwide. Total DS game copies sold: 154+ millions worldwide.[/QUOTE]

GTA:LCS is the best seling game for psp not wipeout

[JKKDARK]

GTA:LCS is the best seling game for psp not wipeout

Whatever, it didn't get more than 8 million copies and it's only one game

[gdf]

i agree that ds has totally ripped psp apart. where are the sales figures? in the pspfanboy webmaster's wet dreams! you can't compare the psp to things like the 360 and ps1 either. ps1 came out well over a decade ago and the 360 is at least £100 more than a psp, PLUS they are both home consoles.

[JUSTiNB]

stupid article.

[Basil Zero]

LOL I have a PSP and not a DS. Yes, that's a fanboy :rolleyes:


Nintendo is getting more money on handhelds.
Also can you tell me the best seller PSP game? Wipeout pure, right? Only more than 1 million copies worldwide (LOL). Total PSP game copies sold: 47+ millions world wide (LOL)
For the DS, there are games like new super mario bros, nintendogs and brain age selling more than 8 millions copies worldwide. Total DS game copies sold: 154+ millions worldwide.

lets see:

Monster Hunter 2 Portable just in japan sold over a million

GTA LCS sold over a million

if you say "oh but it only sold 47+ million game units, and ds sold 154+ million", big deal, for a system like PSP which sold 25+ million units its quite surprising, and unlike DS, PSP is mostly used for pirated material, cough iso cough which is why the umd sales arent high.

well if u dont have a ds and have a psp, if u want to complain about PSP, and say DS is all high and mighty and PSP is dead and all bantering, might as well go to Nintendo.com where they may care:rolleyes:

[JKKDARK]

lets see:

Monster Hunter 2 Portable just in japan sold over a million
As I said before, there are more DS games which sold until 8+ million copies


GTA LCS sold over a million
I lol'd a lot http://209.85.12.234/html/emoticons/laugh.gif


if you say "oh but it only sold 47+ million game units, and ds sold 154+ million", big deal, for a system like PSP which sold 25+ million units its quite surprising, and unlike DS, PSP is mostly used for pirated material, cough iso cough which is why the umd sales arent high.
Pirates aren't gamers. Plus you are wrong. PSX/PS2 piracy was bigger but the original games were totally successful on sales.


well if u dont have a ds and have a psp, if u want to complain about PSP, and say DS is all high and mighty and PSP is dead and all bantering, might as well go to Nintendo.com where they may care:rolleyes:
My comments are right and true.

[Joe88]

you never considered the PSP is probably one the most easy systems to exploit

it it would be impossible to hack or "pirate" umd images unlike the DS where you have to buy where you have to buy a bunch of stuff for it the sales would most likely be way higher

also the US is one of the biggest gaming markets in the world, because the jap people perfer the kiddy DS where as the US perfers the more mature PSP has a lot to do with it

[mikebeaver]

you never considered the PSP is probably one the most easy systems to exploit
Lies!!! to exploit a PSP you have to be able to run unsigned code, such as a downgrader on it, this isnt the easyest of things to do, for a start you need the correct type of firmware, some times even GTA:LCS is required, secondly you have to flash the hardware, which leaves you wide open to the possibilty of bricking.


it it would be impossible to hack or "pirate" umd images unlike the DS where you have to buy where you have to buy a bunch of stuff for it the sales would most likely be way higher
You don't have to buy a bunch of stuff to get the DS to run games it shouldn't, just one product will allow you all the freedom you want (I wont post name's here as DC emu do not condone piracy!)
The PSP can play gammes from memory stick once running custom firmware or by using loaders, but Sony Memory Stick Duo is expensive, compare this to the DS method of using SD cards and it works out a lot cheaper and easier.Piracy on Nintendo DS is rife, just as much so as PSP, the fact that DS games are so much smaller than their PSP counterparts contributes to this.


also the US is one of the biggest gaming markets in the world, because the jap people perfer the kiddy DS where as the US perfers the more mature PSP has a lot to do with itThe console has nothing to do with the games in that respect, I dont see Loco Roco "looking" any different to your so called "Kiddy games", I have seen "over the hedge", "cars", "daxter", "Ratchet and Clank" on PSP, all can be classed as kiddy games if you want, but there are many different types of games to play on both systems, I dont believe that just because they look cartoonish they have to be, as you put it "kiddy", I dare you to get aquainted with MArio Kart DS for a few hours and tell me it isn't a master piece, or that Mario 64 DS isn't one of the most enjoyable games you have ever played.
the PSP has some fantastic hardware, and I am vbery fond of mine, the problem I see is that Sony do not know what their poor little console is! is it a games console, an MP3 player, movie player, internet browser? it is a jack of all trades, and unfortunately a master of none.
I own both a DS and a PSP, my DS is gathering dust since I gained my PSP, but this is purely because of the homebrew scene and the many glorious games and applications that have been released for it, the comercial software and games fopr PSP have very little appeal to me, and I rarely buy a game for it, mainly playing on old SNES and Megadrive games.

[EvilSeph]

Talk about overly biased.


I think there is lots in store for the PSP. And with a new "PSP Lite" pretty much confirmed now, I would think that commercially speaking the PSP will be a major part of SONY's agenda for some time.

The PSP Lite is not confirmed to be true. Different Sony executives are singing different songs.


It's only in the USA. Now somebody please post info worldwideAgreed. USA and worldwide statistics would differ greatly.


The U.S counts too you know. The U.S is a large percentage of sales so you really can't discredit it.

To "discredit" the US percentage of sales would mean to consider worldwide statistics MINUS the US.


stop acting like a fanboy

Having an opinion is equivalent to acting like a fanboy? You live in a distorted world.


I understand that, all I'm saying is that just because it shows only USA sales doesn't make it irrelevent or make it not count. Because the USA is a big part of the market thats all.

...you seem to be reading another post. He did not state nor imply that the US-only statistics were irrelevant, he merely stated worldwide statistics (which include US statistics - something you seem to fail to understand) would be more accurate and unbiased.


stupid article.

Strongly agreed. This article was pointless, biased and stupid.


lets see:

Monster Hunter 2 Portable just in japan sold over a million

GTA LCS sold over a million

if you say "oh but it only sold 47+ million game units, and ds sold 154+ million", big deal, for a system like PSP which sold 25+ million units its quite surprising, and unlike DS, PSP is mostly used for pirated material, cough iso cough which is why the umd sales arent high.

well if u dont have a ds and have a psp, if u want to complain about PSP, and say DS is all high and mighty and PSP is dead and all bantering, might as well go to Nintendo.com where they may care:rolleyes:

And you were calling someone else a fanboy? Please take a look at what site you're on. This is not just a PSP-focused site. So yea, people care.

If you don't care, don't reply.


you never considered the PSP is probably one the most easy systems to exploit


You're ignorant. How can you even begin to comment on a topic you know nothing about? I haven't seen any discoveries, releases or proof of concepts from you. As far as I can see, you're just saying that to sound smart.


it it would be impossible to hack or "pirate" umd images unlike the DS where you have to buy where you have to buy a bunch of stuff for it the sales would most likely be way higher

You can pirate UMD images just fine. But discussion of that topic isn't permitted on these forums. Both systems' securities are easily circumvented and really, technically you can't compare them in that respect.


also the US is one of the biggest gaming markets in the world, because the jap people perfer the kiddy DS where as the US perfers the more mature PSP has a lot to do with it

You're yet again ignorant. There is nothing "kiddy" about the DS. It was not even made for "kids", its target audience was everyone. There are even games on the DS that I would NEVER let a "kid" play. They may not be explicit, but they are inappropriate. Same applies to the PSP.

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Before you all reply to topics - THINK. And stop posting like you know what you're talking about if you know you don't. It'll just make you look stupid when someone more knowledgeable comes and corrects you. Like mikebeaver.

mikebeaver is the only one here who's posts were well thought-out. I can find little to no error in it.

On a side note, I personally prefer the PSP because of the Scene. Not because it is "more" or "less" active than any other Scene, but because this is one of the more friendlier Scenes. I've met a lot of intelligent and creative people due to my involvement in the PSP Scene and I don't regret a single thing.

That can't be said for some of the other Scenes I've been in.

[Joe88]

Lies!!! to exploit a PSP you have to be able to run unsigned code, such as a downgrader on it, this isnt the easyest of things to do, for a start you need the correct type of firmware, some times even GTA:LCS is required, secondly you have to flash the hardware, which leaves you wide open to the possibilty of bricking.

easy downgraders, basically do all the work for you
you dont need GTA for every downgrade just the 3.03 one, however I have 2 orginal 1.50 PSP's, both which have 3.10 OE-A2, so GTA was never needed in the first place, I do have it non the less ;)


You don't have to buy a bunch of stuff to get the DS to run games it shouldn't, just one product will allow you all the freedom you want (I wont post name's here as DC emu do not condone piracy!)
The PSP can play gammes from memory stick once running custom firmware or by using loaders, but Sony Memory Stick Duo is expensive, compare this to the DS method of using SD cards and it works out a lot cheaper and easier.Piracy on Nintendo DS is rife, just as much so as PSP, the fact that DS games are so much smaller than their PSP counterparts contributes to this.

You have the buy the SD converter and a SD card. Thats 2 items, not one.
Also a company called sandisk sells much lower priced MS Pro Duo sticks that perform better also. But you can run most homebrew using the the 32MB stick the PSP came with. Though people buy bigger ones for illegal purposes but that wont be discussed here ...


The console has nothing to do with the games in that respect, I dont see Loco Roco "looking" any different to your so called "Kiddy games", I have seen "over the hedge", "cars", "daxter", "Ratchet and Clank" on PSP, all can be classed as kiddy games if you want, but there are many different types of games to play on both systems, I dont believe that just because they look cartoonish they have to be, as you put it "kiddy", I dare you to get aquainted with MArio Kart DS for a few hours and tell me it isn't a master piece, or that Mario 64 DS isn't one of the most enjoyable games you have ever played.


Im not a fan of mario kart. Only old school NES/SNES mario games platformers. I can play them all on my PSP so theres no need for a DS for me. Until they release that Zelda game for DS, I might purchase it.
I not a just a sony fanboy, I do have a GCN (mainly for zelda only :p ) and a GBA SP, <3 wario ware, and and the zelda games also.
daxter and Ratchet and Clank have a T ratting, if it was a kiddy game, it would have a E. But due to graphic violence it obtained a T ratting.
The DS is intended for kids and theres bearly no violent games, its just not my cup of tee ...




You're ignorant. How can you even begin to comment on a topic you know nothing about? I haven't seen any discoveries, releases or proof of concepts from you. As far as I can see, you're just saying that to sound smart.

Im ignorant because I didnt post some huge guide or because I dont post here often ???
lol
Im a mod @ psp-hacks, I come here for news updates since -hacks doesnt have the greatest news updates. Ive had my 2 PSP's since the US release. How can you call me ignorant ? You dont even know me.



You're yet again ignorant. There is nothing "kiddy" about the DS. It was not even made for "kids", its target audience was everyone. There are even games on the DS that I would NEVER let a "kid" play. They may not be explicit, but they are inappropriate. Same applies to the PSP.

its a system for kids, most games are focused for a child, skill level, ect...
I dont remeber there being games like GTA on the DS or any games on the DS that have a M ratting. Well there was that junky RE1 port, thats about it ....
Fact is that the PSP is focused for an older crowd while the DS is focused for younger crowd.

[animekid4]

Wait till the rise of our pokemon leader.....thhen we shall have them alll..!!!!!

[superpomme]

"Pirates aren't gamers"

what in GOD'S name are you on about?

[SSaxdude]

I don't believe the PSP has sold better than the DS in America. I'd like to see some actual numbers.

[skater9269]

japan is a huge part of the ds sales so I would say that excluding japan discredits the psp vs ds part of this and no I'm not a ds fanboy (rather the opposite)

[nhlhockey]

There you go. The facts tell the real story. That should show you guys you shouldn't believe most things you see on TV or the internet or the news. Question everything you see and hear. Most is not true. Most is propaganda either political or business.

[r00t]

LMAO! What a funny attempt, only able to come from pspfanboy.

notice how they focus only on the first 24 month, and compare it to systems that were mostly failures ie. dreamcast, gamecube.

after 24 months ds beats the shit through psp everywhere!

Shame the DS has the processing power of a small peanut though.

[Stone Temple Pilots]

Hold on now. This is just one article. Everyone is getting all ornery over one another for making a couple simple posts. This article was meant to give the people who love their PSP a little beacon of light seeing how most people bash the PSP's sales and what-have-ya. It's absolutely pointless to rag on another member for supporting the PSP. Going back to the topic at hand, I find this article very interesting and I would like to see a similar article for the Playstation 3 assuming it won't bomb before next year. Ok, now lets act biased for a minute.
- A good group of DS's games are just N64 ports and like the GCN, shows no third-party support, Nintendo really needs some original ideas. Ah, I miss the SNES.
- Sony needs to get their heads out of their kiesters and improve the PSP's online and I mean quick. Also, firmware updates prove nothing seeing how great men like Dark_Alex keeps finding ways through them so we can all enjoy the PSone games we cherished back in the 90's.

All forms of critisizm are welcome.