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quzar
May 2nd, 2007, 04:32
A lot of you might have heard about this recently, or seen it places around the internet, but what is it and why is it so important?

Well, turns out this string of numbers (hex, which is why there are letters too) is the key to decrypting HD-DVDs. Not only that but the MPAA have claimed that simply spreading this number, posting it anywhere, writing it down, etc. is illegal. Pulling the same stunt that they did with the CSS code, but this time with just a number.

If they gain any ground with these actions, it will mark a huge loss of personal freedom on the internet, and nobody but them wants to see that.

A banned number. What's next?

Do your part. Spread it around. On chalkboards, emails, forums, shout it from the rooftops, and make it known that the people will not stand for it.

I'm sorry if this isn't quite the typical article you see on the front page, and it probably belongs in our 'blogs' section. Frankly though, nobody reads that, so I'm going to do my part by making sure as many people see it as possible.

VFerg
May 2nd, 2007, 04:41
To tell you the truth lately there have been a lot of things posted in sections that probably shouldnt be. But it doesnt bother me at all and helps me see some other big news articles I probably wouldnt see cause I was not in the right section. Anyway this is definetly something that everybody should know, but must say its pretty much been on every site I goto already! Guess the news is spreading.

BelmontSlayer
May 2nd, 2007, 04:58
This is ridiculous...threatening to sue over a number. Sure, it's a decryption key but still. Here's a little skit I wrote...

Judge: The case of the MPAA versus www.ps3crap.com is now in session.
Judge: So let me get this straight...you're suing a website because they posted a number on their forums?
MPAA: Yes, your honor. But it's much more than that.
Judge: Really? Please explain then.
MPAA: This number allows people to pirate HD-DVDs.
Judge: But can't a normal DVD be "pirated" by using a DVD Burner?
MPAA: Yes, but this is different. This is causing us to lose money!
Judge: So you want to sue this website for $3000 because they posted a "number" that is making you lose money?
MPAA: Yes.
Judge: Have you ever read the constitution?
MPAA: Bits and pieces...
Judge: Then you should know that it is completely legal to say or write anything you wish. This "trial" is a joke. I'm awarding the defendant $200 for the money he had to waste on court costs. If you ever pull something this stupid again, I will have your ass. Also, get the hell out of my courtroom!

quzar
May 2nd, 2007, 05:01
This is ridiculous...threatening to sue over a number. Sure, it's a decryption key but still. Here's a little skit I wrote...

Judge: The case of the MPAA versus www.ps3crap.com is now in session.
Judge: So let me get this straight...you're suing a website because they posted a number on their forums?
MPAA: Yes, your honor. But it's much more than that.
Judge: Really? Please explain then.
MPAA: This number allows people to pirate HD-DVDs.
Judge: But can't a normal DVD be "pirated" by using a DVD Burner?
MPAA: Yes, but this is different. This is causing us to lose money!
Judge: So you want to sue this website for $3000 because they posted a "number" that is making you lose money?
MPAA: Yes.
Judge: Have you ever read the constitution?
MPAA: Bits and pieces...
Judge: Then you should know that it is completely legal to say or write anything you wish. This "trial" is a joke. I'm awarding the defendant $200 for the money he had to waste on court costs. If you ever pull something this stupid again, I will have your ass. Also, get the hell out of my courtroom!

Add a few 0s to the ends of those to get realisitc numbers. Also, the bigger root problem is that the DMCA is so vague and broken that it actually would allow them to legitimately sue for this.

Tetris999
May 2nd, 2007, 05:05
ive copied it down ;)

Destroyer699
May 2nd, 2007, 05:13
Time to spread it. Let it be known that 5/1/07 is officially "09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0" day

Listen to this. http://www.esnips.com/doc/7d70f3c1-59d7-429d-9058-0cd5b10ad446/09-F9-11-02-9D-74-E3-5B-D8-41-56-C5-63-56-88-C0

mexicansnake
May 2nd, 2007, 05:19
Hey thats the code that I use to unlock my electronic fridge... Now isnt illegal.

Bunch of stupid banned stuff...

Btw lets type this to have fun:
09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
oh bad snake you typed the banned number!!! oh God what should I do next?
Im scared!.

double_d
May 2nd, 2007, 05:36
Oh wow, just when you think you've heard it all.
Copied it down, just to say "screw you" to the MPAA :-)

mexicansnake
May 2nd, 2007, 05:44
Posting on youtube...

alfatreze
May 2nd, 2007, 05:45
it is now my msn name ;)

Destroyer699
May 2nd, 2007, 05:50
Now my sig.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b385/destroyer69/09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0.png
I encourage others to use this sig as well.

pibs
May 2nd, 2007, 05:50
wtf they cant ban a number its as silly as the tritone ban in music

mexicansnake
May 2nd, 2007, 05:59
I made a new email: [email protected]

socalpunkroc
May 2nd, 2007, 06:03
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0

09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0

09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0

Ahhh rolls right off the tounge

NoQuarter
May 2nd, 2007, 06:05
This is nuts,digg is on fire.Lol a banned number, I've never heard anything so stupid in my life.DRM is such GARBAGE we really need reformation of our laws.
Oh and I forgot to say:

09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0

Gene
May 2nd, 2007, 06:13
I made a new email: [email protected]

Thats right baby, down with the man. :thumbup:

09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0

Basil Zero
May 2nd, 2007, 06:14
this is as stupid as that incident that happened in athens greece with sony's event having a dead goat as a ad LOL

btw:

09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 FTW!!

waternova
May 2nd, 2007, 06:36
09 f9 11 02 9d 74 e3 5b d8 41 56 c5 63 56 88 c0
09 f9 11 02 9d 74 e3 5b d8 41 56 c5 63 56 88 c0
09 f9 11 02 9d 74 e3 5b d8 41 56 c5 63 56 88 c0
09 f9 11 02 9d 74 e3 5b d8 41 56 c5 63 56 88 c0


:eek: Pretty... :eek:

lol... now anyone wanna tell us what we can do with this hex, other than post it everywhere? :rolleyes:

Or is that what is truly scaring them? :p

Veskgar
May 2nd, 2007, 07:13
09 f9 11 02 9d 74 e3 5b d8 41 56 c5 63 56 88 c0

I have taken note of this hex # and the message behind it will be spread. Many freedoms get chiseled away slowly when unsuspecting people let this sort of thing slide.

Or perhaps even worse is that when this sort of thing happens, they expect a short burst of outrage and a small percentage of people trying to stop it. But they assume (and are often right) that after time it will just blow over.

So lets make it clear with this and all other similar scenarios that we will not allow our freedoms and rights to be stomped on in this way.

Basically, we just won't tolerate this.

jamotto
May 2nd, 2007, 07:24
lol... now anyone wanna tell us what we can do with this hex, other than post it everywhere? :rolleyes:

It will allow people to unscramble HD-DVD/Blu-Ray movies, allowing you to rip them successfully. It will only allow this on movies already out in stores, though.

kcajblue
May 2nd, 2007, 07:25
oh yeah. fight the power.

09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0

The_Ultimate_Eggman
May 2nd, 2007, 07:32
The encrytpion was cracked a while back and power dvd & win dvd 8 can now play your dumped bluray and HD dvdv movies as for the actuall keys they can be found on various illicit backup sites if you trawl hard enough...;)

jamotto
May 2nd, 2007, 07:54
I like the pneumonic version of the key. Subtract one from the length of each word.


A linguistic characterization downgrades it to a wee difficulty, characterizing behemoth codes (extrajudicially made inside monopolizing, unincorporated conspires lying to impose devious macroeconomic tricks) through wise coding." -- Mocking Comically Absurdist Commercialism I.;)

ddrkhat
May 2nd, 2007, 09:32
[Hexdecimal]
09, f9, 11, 02, 9d, 74, e3, 5b, d8, 41, 56, c5, 63, 56, 88, c0

[Numerical Value of the hex decimal]
9, 249, 17, 2, 157, 119, 237, 91, 216, 65, 87, 197, 99, 86, 136, 191

Converted/Deciphered by hand. BECAUSE I CAN ! :P

ficksucker
May 2nd, 2007, 10:23
Can they just change the number without making HD DVD players need new firmware?

Anger
May 2nd, 2007, 10:27
i think this is a brave article because it could end up bringing the wrath of the mpaa down on dcemu's head. however i fully agree that its wrong for them to try and ban this, but let me say this - until its law we can legally post it wherever we like. and that chances of this being mde law in all countries is about a million to 1. :)
score 1 2 3 4 5 and 6 to the hackers. :)

also i wonder how long it will take for them to ban this code as well. :P

536372657720746865204D504141

R4mbo
May 2nd, 2007, 10:41
Thank you! I gonna spread this number: 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0, ooops, now i have written it, omfg... i will go to prison.

zombie_dod
May 2nd, 2007, 12:46
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688cf
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688ce
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688cd
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688cc
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688cb
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688ca
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c9
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c8
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c7
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c6
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c5
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c4
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c3
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c2
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c1
hmmmm just one more and this simple countdown becomes illegal :eek:
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0

kaffie
May 2nd, 2007, 13:01
...Well, turns out this string of numbers (hex, which is why there are letters too) is the key to decrypting HD-DVDs. Not only that but the MPAA have claimed that simply spreading this number, posting it anywhere, writing it down, etc. is illegal. Pulling the same stunt that they did with the CSS code, but this time with just a number.


...runs off to start a t-shirt company.

Hungry Horace
May 2nd, 2007, 13:43
it wont take an infinite number of monkeys to produce.


my guess is about 5 could crack it in a day.

quzar
May 2nd, 2007, 13:47
...runs off to start a t-shirt company.

after the killing made with CSS, this was the first order of business for many =P.

GobboFett
May 2nd, 2007, 15:10
I am so creating a WoW macro to just randomly shout out "09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0" whenever and wherever :D Some would say that leaks like this ruin the party but hey, WHAT A PARTY!!!

Mister Klownes
May 2nd, 2007, 15:17
I like the concept of making sure everyone knows its numerical equivelant as well:
9, 249, 17, 2, 157, 119, 237, 91, 216, 65, 87, 197, 99, 86, 136, 191
In a court, a jury could easily get confused by the concept of hexadecimal...but if you tell them that the MPAA wants to ban this simple string of number because it's making them lose money...well nothing short of epic failure will occur on the part of the MPAA.

also:
09 f9 11 02 9d 74 e3 5b d8 41 56 c5 63 56 88 c0

bassCore
May 2nd, 2007, 15:22
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0

OMG :eek: it's like that EVIL number sequence in LOST. :eek: OMG

I'm gonna play these numbers on Lotto and win :)

9, 249, 17, 2, 157, 119, 237, 91, 216, 65, 87, 197, 99, 86, 136, 191

PSmonkey
May 2nd, 2007, 17:33
Dude. Someone should make a snakes game so every dot you eat shows the next set of hex didgets. You win by getting the full length of the sequence!!!

ROFL.

VFerg
May 2nd, 2007, 18:47
Your to late if you are thinking about making your own t-shirt! It's already been done. People are quick!

Here's the site http://www.cafepress.com/umbers.129066329

shango46
May 2nd, 2007, 21:04
09 f9 11 02 9d 74 e3 5b d8 41 56 c5 63 56 88 c0

I cant believe that this simple hex # is causing so much controversy. How do they figure they will make it illegal to post this number? By making hex #'s illegal all together? That would suck as there are many other programs out there that use hex #'s within the program (ex. Gameshark) that are freely distributed. All I can say is this is Fu**ing retarded and the MPAA should go take their heads out of each others asses.

Anger
May 2nd, 2007, 22:24
it isnt illegal because knowledge is freedom - there just pissed that there big sdecret aint so big no more. and as a result they may try and get the number sequence banned. however they could sue anyone posting the number if it really means that much to them. i suspect this is one of 2 things those morons could do - the other more sensible option is to change the key/method. either way it will cost them money (*CHEERS*) instead of us poor human beings who cant afford there stupid prices.

also shango46 your sig is giving me a headache - it isnt even readable so gonna please change it?

shango46
May 2nd, 2007, 22:47
also shango46 your sig is giving me a headache - it isnt even readable so gonna please change it?
LOL! I know that its really bad, but that was the point when I made it. I am thinking about making a new one, but I have no idea what to do. I want to keep it visually offensive (I am just mean) but I also want to keep it animated. Any ideas?

Back on topic...

I dont think they have the means to sue every person that posts the hex # (or every site that allows it to be posted) as it would cost them too much money. Plus, if it was made illegal, it would not be for every country as that would be impossible (Thank god I live in Canada and we have such lax rules about downloading). The best thing they could do is create a new key, or create better security technology. Either way they go they will be shelling out some serious cash.

quzar
May 3rd, 2007, 06:14
Awesome. Something that actually matters has been banished to the obscurity of the blog section. I guess room had to be made for more adverts on the frontpage -_-.

Chameleon
May 3rd, 2007, 06:44
yeah like the "play mario with your eyes closed" that has a video link that doesnt even work.

sweet justice i tell you

BrooksyX
May 3rd, 2007, 15:49
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0

Just doing my part. ;)

edit: by the way I am going to copyright the number 1 so if any one else ever uses it again they are going to be sued for a million dollars. :D

Chameleon
May 3rd, 2007, 18:07
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0

there you go i guess i owe you

doom9
May 5th, 2007, 00:32
Your to late if you are thinking about making your own t-shirt! It's already been done. People are quick!

Here's the site http://www.cafepress.com/umbers.129066329

much better design here:

http://spreadthisnumber.spreadshirt.com

:)