SuperCard calls out Team Cyclops and calls them FAKES!

[bandit]

The SuperCard Team has called out Team Cyclops and is calling them FAKES! They feel that Team Cyclops is an exact duplicate of SuperCard's own products and that the fakes will damage your data.

All CYCLODS Fake SuperCard have common features:

The Fake will corrupt your SAVE DATA.
The Fake is very hard to insert and plug out.
CYCLODS microSD/MiniSD/SD version can only use our SuperCard SD version firmware and software, it can not use SuperCard Lite version firmware and software.
Play a lot of DS games will white screen. Especially the 0094 -- Akumajou Dracula - Aoitsuki no Juujika (v01) (JP).
CYCLODS microSD version can NOT totally insert into SLOT 2 of NDSL.

This is the package of CYCLODS.
http://eng.supercard.cn/fake_images/fake_c5s.jpg (http://eng.supercard.cn/fake_images/fake_c5.jpg) http://eng.supercard.cn/fake_images/fake_c2s.jpg (http://eng.supercard.cn/fake_images/fake_c2.jpg)

CYCLODS microSD version can NOT totally insert into SLOT 2 of NDSL.
CLICK HERE TO VIEW IMAGE (http://eng.supercard.cn/fake_images/fake_c1.jpg)

CYCLODS microSD version has a battery. Original SuperCard Lite do not need a battery.
http://eng.supercard.cn/fake_images/fake_c3s.jpg (http://eng.supercard.cn/fake_images/fake_c3.jpg)

CYCLODS micro version menu only change the down screen picture, actually it use our SuperCard SD version software.
http://eng.supercard.cn/fake_images/fake_c4s.jpg (http://eng.supercard.cn/fake_images/fake_c4.jpg)

Source: SuperCard (http://eng.supercard.cn/)

[parkermauney]

K?

[turnerl]

K?

Whats K? mean?

Thats really bad that they copied all the Supercard teams hard work they should be closed down and sued.

[cloud_952]

SuperCard is really hardcore about trashtalking. O_o This is the second.. third time they've released a notice screaming fraud. Now, while I agree it's probably true.. this is a FLASH CART! You know.. one people buy from Hong Kong and aren't exactly looking to find "the true deal".

[DimensionT]

While cloning the hardware isn't that big a deal (been going on for years with PCs and things), the fact that this uses the same firmware is pretty F'ed up if you ask me...

[Xgen001]

damn. the exact same firmware man.

and the fact that it uses a battery means the save data will corrupt! fake GBA cartridges' save files always corrupt because the battery they use is of much a lesser quality than real ones.

[wiggy fuzz]

well the simple solution is for the user just to not buy the bleeding thing...

and talking of fake...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_SNv2xEyyeg

[Eyedunno]

One thing I will say, Team Cyclops has a better graphic designer than SuperCard.

And this made me laugh:
"The Fake is very hard to insert and plug out."
The SuperCard SD version was a fine product, but when I got my SuperCard Lite, it was so hard to pull out the first time that the first thing I tried was to file down some of the plastic, and when that didn't work, I stopped using it. So this seems to me like the pot calling the kettle black.

The SuperCard Lite fiasco lost me as a customer, and now I'm a happy R4 user.

[wiggy fuzz]

slot one for me - i never really saw the need for a slot 2 device. but what are the advantages of them anyway (besides GBA gameplay...)

i went and got an m3 simply (which incidentally they stopped selling with the white cases)

[funem]

Got to admit its pretty funny that one manufacturer calls out the other ones product as a fake ( effectively a pirate version of their product ), when they are both used to play pirate copies of games. I mean the supercard site even uses the fact that "Play a lot of DS games will white screen. Especially the 0094 -- Akumajou Dracula - Aoitsuki no Juujika (v01) (JP)." to prove the card is a copy of their card. Anyway SC lost me to R4 with the delayed updates of their firmware, up till then I only bought SC stuff.

[Eyedunno]

slot one for me - i never really saw the need for a slot 2 device. but what are the advantages of them anyway (besides GBA gameplay...)

i went and got an m3 simply (which incidentally they stopped selling with the white cases)
Aside from GBA, you can use Rein to copy savegames from official DS carts, and it's possible to dump ROMs with some of them. Oh, and some provide extra memory that can be used by certain homebrew (though I always keep my memory expansion pak in slot 2 anyway, so I would hope those same developers allow both options).

[Xtreme]

Got to admit its pretty funny that one manufacturer calls out the other ones product as a fake ( effectively a pirate version of their product ), when they are both used to play pirate copies of games.

So with your logic owning a dick is straight illegal as it can be used to rape women and childrens. So let's cut off all dicks and there will be no more rapes. World is saved! :thumbup:

[funem]

So with your logic owning a dick is straight illegal as it can be used to rape women and childrens. So let's cut off all dicks and there will be no more rapes. World is saved! :thumbup:

Got to admit you would win the award for really missing the point......

Oh and if you think all the card manufacturers actually only make the cards for homebrew, what's the point of them updating the software to fix the retail games that don't work when playing pirated roms, not to mention the recent upgrading of firmware to play roms that haven't actually been released yet. Its illegal to even make backups of your roms, let alone play a backup. The 24 hours to delete this rom if you don't own it is a load of bull as well. :thumbup:

[deliriumlb]

Well Team Cyclops's new product ISN'T a fake or a rip off. I've been using it for 2 weeks now and its original and has a good build quality and features. I can't say as to why they would clone the hardware on their first generation of devices, but they've gone all original now. And their firmware updates are pretty responsive. I'd recommend the Evolution over any other slot-1 card.

Its a bit silly to bash a competitor for something they released over 5 months ago (possibly more), and just now start to get mad about it, when they just happen to have a competing, and more feature rich product on the market... I think they are trying to confuse the new people that are in the market for slot 1 devices, since the name is similar (CycloDS Microsd vs. CycloDS Evolution). But I'm just cynical like that anyways.

[Uknight]

What are they quarreling about? Supercard and M3 team and the rest, all started from copying the design of the GBA Movie Player Advance as well.

I do believe they have a valid argument when their own firmware is being used though.

As to deliriumlb, if they have been cranking out their own firmware, then it's a good thing, nothing for Supercard to bitch about.

[wiggy fuzz]

sooooooooooo...

the designer of the ds lite could complain because the supercard uses the design of the filler cartridge? this is one of those "who cares?" things - like some american dude suing a dry cleaners for a few million bob, for loosing his trousers.it's just a pair of trousers, it's not like the only pair you own - for petes sake, you wore trousers in the court room!

[Tennisgy]

Got to admit you would win the award for really missing the point......

Oh and if you think all the card manufacturers actually only make the cards for homebrew, what's the point of them updating the software to fix the retail games that don't work when playing pirated roms, not to mention the recent upgrading of firmware to play roms that haven't actually been released yet. Its illegal to even make backups of your roms, let alone play a backup. The 24 hours to delete this rom if you don't own it is a load of bull as well. :thumbup:

Xtreme's post=win

[ShinMike]

haha im buying one for a friend anyhow, he can enjoy fake products =p :thumbup: :thumbup:

[kcajblue]

What are they quarreling about? Supercard and M3 team and the rest, all started from copying the design of the GBA Movie Player Advance as well.

I do believe they have a valid argument when their own firmware is being used though.

As to deliriumlb, if they have been cranking out their own firmware, then it's a good thing, nothing for Supercard to bitch about.the people who made the GBAMP made the M3.
so its not really a copied design.
they just made the m3 have better functions.

[deliriumlb]

I do believe they have a valid argument when their own firmware is being used though.

As to deliriumlb, if they have been cranking out their own firmware, then it's a good thing, nothing for Supercard to bitch about.

I do agree with the firmware argument. It was wrong of the CycloDS team to actually modify/use the firmware from another team's chip. Is anyone sure its the same? Maybe it just looks similar and they were shy of being original (so they could say it is as easy as the SC..). But they probably just ripped it and hacked the firmware to work with their hardware.

And yeah I'm sure that they are selling new original chips, with their own original firmware (the firmware files are called update.evo, not update.sc or whatever). Example: I can use download play on any rom i have on the sd card. No other chip can currently do this. Definitely original hardware.

[Thanatos 2.0]

I got my M3 with a GBA flash works perfectly, anyways
I lol'd at Neo Dual Games.

[skipboris]

I cant speak to all cyclo slot 2 cards, but their newest product has superior features to the supercard slot 1 micro sd. It has everything the supercard has plus its easier to use, its the only card on the market with microsdhc support, which will go up to 32 gigs in the future. regular microsd only goes to 2 gigs. There also is promised state saving for NDS games, a first. It sounds to me like supercard is worried/gelous of their compeditor. BTW, I own a supercard lite and cyclods evolution and I love both.

[Eyedunno]

I got my M3 with a GBA flash works perfectly, anyways
I lol'd at Neo Dual Games.
Yeah, that gave me an idea. They should make Animal Crossing for the Neo Dual Games.

They could use Frogger. :)

[wiggy fuzz]

*spits into a spit pot*

"alright, cycloDS... i'm calling you out!"

*cool western music and customary dustball rolls by*

"this tawn 'ain't big! enough for the toowufus!"

*more dustballs*

"what are ya! a yellerbelly?"

*get's attacked by dustballs*

[DanTheManMS]

The slot-2 CycloDS products are indeed exact clones of the slot-2 Supercard products. In fact, if you compare the DLDI files, they're nearly identical aside from the text strings that identify which one is which. Commercial games patched with the Supercard patcher will work on the CycloDS, and vice versa, and the firmwares are indeed nearly identical.

However, it appears that the CycloDS Evolution is a new product that doesn't look like a ripoff of any other product currently out there.