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heavymetalninja
July 25th, 2007, 00:25
I read just before reading the book that rowling was a socialist and probably tried to express this into the book, i ahdnt noticed this in othe rbooks whether that was due to me not bothering to think about it or not being as informed upon politics as i am nowadays i dont know. It seemed to be that as most people will associate the minstry was a bit too much liek the national socilaism from the 1930's, it could also have been because i had heard someone say some people wer eon about the fudge in the 5th film being like hitler an idea i would very quickly like to dispose off because A) i think rowling is too creative to have her ideas associated with just ripping off history and b) im very interested in (but completely against) national socialism which i have learned a greta dela about in the last year. I think that all the stuff about checking blood status and the racism of the pure bloods could have been written in a calmer fashion because it did seem to me that it spiralled out of control a little, but i read that apprnetly grindlewald was outduelled by dumbledore in 1945 although i rembered it to be in the 50's so whether rowling had a deep message she was trying to spread of anti-nazism i dont know but if it was i think it was a bit wrong trying to underlie a message which would have tianted the book in my opinion as it feels a bit forced on you. I also think the inclusion of Ron saying about grandad would kill you if you married a pure blood a bit hypocritical on the stance of it all whether it was a joke or not because being anti pure blood is the same of being anti-mudblood and i dont think they should have taken that road i thin they believeed in anti-classifying ones heritage and saying it didnt matter at all. Any intellectual ideas or comments would be appreciated but then again it is just a kids book.

oh and somethign else that hti me was how dumbleores young talks of the greater good and that reminded me a lot of communism and when rowling was writing about how bad the greater good etc was and the controlling of every part of society it seemed she was criticising the left more than the right - her own viewpoint becaus eit is a trait of the left to try and moniter and run everything.... maybe shes not very good on politicals and thinks because hitler ran a totalitarian state then its a trait of the right? or maybe it is I who is being nieve? Anyway as i said i would appreciate intellectual comments and ideas

Raach.16
July 25th, 2007, 10:14
harry, i dont understand a word of this, i left socialism and communism back when i finished gcse history :P i guess youll have to explain it to me lol.

padfoots
July 25th, 2007, 14:36
well i cna't understand all what y are saying cause y wrote too fast
but it's conspicuous that rowling made politics in this last book and i think it's not at his righ place in a book for young people
or maybe the wanted to get nearer of the real word in includng historic events
i am sorry i am french so i can't say rightly what i think

paddfoot2
August 15th, 2007, 10:59
i understand, just , but your completely wrong! oh yeah and you wrote to fast

SnesR0X
August 15th, 2007, 20:24
i understand, just , but your completely wrong! oh yeah and you wrote to fast

No, it's mainly right. Written too fast is a terrible excuse.

padfoots
August 19th, 2007, 20:26
grindelwald looks like much to lenine.

as grindelwald , lenine was expulsed of rusia and the did go for a while in france and england for going back to the futur u r s s .

paddfoot2
August 30th, 2007, 13:55
No, it's mainly right. Written too fast is a terrible excuse.

Ok iv read it again and hes right, but i still think he wrote it to fast