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mike03$$$
August 10th, 2007, 22:12
thanks

Sonicboy 101
August 10th, 2007, 22:12
Does anyone know about any of the Pokemon games status on this emulator?

acn010
August 10th, 2007, 22:14
your welcome... yet i quite dont understand why is it really slow.... ``
ummm....... pokemon dash works fine let me try with other pokemon games

maxipower90
August 10th, 2007, 22:15
does pokemon require touch screen or is an option ( not that im gonna play pokemon haha )

xg917
August 10th, 2007, 22:15
@maxipower: pokemon diamond and pearl dont except for the begining of the game for the pokeball thing i think

@sonicboy: pokemon dash seems to be the only pokemon game working for this emulator

@acn: i feel that the emulator will progress later on 2-3 FPS isnt much but i thought it would be 1fps lol. all we have to do is wait for this emu to be developed more. im sure we will see higher frame rates some day but not full speed, agree?

@the ex: if this was litterally a room that i can see u in. me nd acn would be jumpin ur ass now man..

notice that you have not been on topic at all and kept comming back with something when we told you to stop. this isnt fair for the thread and members reading as this is not about the emulator at all. now you were saying that you have good things to say but i keep breathing over your shoulder. i doubt that you have anything positive to say since you have been arguing this whole time and i gave u about 1 or 2 chances to make peace with me and stop the argument but you just keep commin and commin. you seriously need to be taught a lesson.. now please stop..

Sonicboy 101
August 10th, 2007, 22:16
your welcome... yet i quite dont understand why is it really slow.... ``
ummm....... pokemon dash works fine let me try with other pokemon games

Thanks :thumbup:

Mr.Denny
August 10th, 2007, 22:17
Would you guys take your argument to PM or something. Seriously, I joined DCemu to get away from pap like this.

I'm sure you're all swell chaps and all but everyone else isn't interested in your little pillow fights.

mike03$$$
August 10th, 2007, 22:18
i tried pokemon diamond it doesnt load or maybe i never had the patience for it to load

acn010
August 10th, 2007, 22:19
if this was litterally a room that i can see u in. me nd acn would be jumpin ur ass now man..

notice that you have not been on topic at all and kept comming back with something when we told you to stop. this isnt fair for the thread and members reading as this is not about the emulator at all. now you were saying that you have good things to say but i keep breathing over your shoulder. i doubt that you have anything positive to say since you have been arguing this whole time and i gave u about 1 or 2 chances to make peace with me and stop the argument but you just keep commin and commin. you seriously need to be taught a lesson..

temporary ban i may say??? lol

um some pokemon games need the touching feature like trozei
mike03$$$ ill try it now... just wait

The EX
August 10th, 2007, 22:20
if this was litterally a room that i can see u in. me nd acn would be jumpin ur ass now man..
Unfortunately, it isn't. Plus, I'm not surprised people like you cannot keep your hands to yourself in an argument, as the only way you think you would win is by hurting me, which is actually the losers way out.


notice that you have not been on topic at all
Neither have your replies.


and kept comming back with something when we told you to stop.
That's because the word 'stop' to you means; 'SHUT UP', or 'OMFG STOP'.


this isnt fair for the thread and members reading as this is not about the emulator at all.
So why did you post this?


now you were saying that you have good things to say but i keep breathing over your shoulder.
Yes, that is what I said.


i doubt that you have anything positive to say since you have been arguing this whole time
It took you this long to realise?


and i gave u about 1 or 2 chances to make peace with me and stop the argument but you just keep commin and commin. you seriously need to be taught a lesson..
That's because all your 'peace makings' consisted of phrases such as; 'You're an idiot, stop now'.






temporary ban i may say??? lol
No, if anyone needs straighting up here, it's you.






Would you guys take your argument to PM or something. Seriously, I joined DCemu to get away from pap like this.

I'm sure you're all swell chaps and all but everyone else isn't interested in your little pillow fights.
I'm sorry. I don't mean to disturb the forum. I am just trying to defend myself from some ignorant people. I'm sure you'd do the same in my shoes.

wraggster
August 10th, 2007, 22:23
\i suggest that all who are arguing and going offtopic in this thread stop now, Or risk temp bans, every comment from now is being watched and reported any more and ill be forced to take action no matter who is doing it.

Take this as a pre ban warning

acn010
August 10th, 2007, 22:24
The EX..... just drop it now...
pokemon diamond seems to load extremely slow

Sonicboy 101
August 10th, 2007, 22:25
i tried pokemon diamond it doesnt load or maybe i never had the patience for it to load

Ok, thanks :thumbup:


\i suggest that all who are arguing and going offtopic in this thread stop now, Or risk temp bans, every comment from now is being watched and reported any more and ill be forced to take action no matter who is doing it.

Take this as a pre ban warning

Thank you Wraggster, I must say this argument had gone too far.

mike03$$$
August 10th, 2007, 22:25
i just hope that they make another update to this emu

xg917
August 10th, 2007, 22:25
thank you wraggy :o

as for pokemon diamond/pearl i havent gotten them to load. they come up with a 3/4 of white screen

acn010
August 10th, 2007, 22:28
xg917, same here... i think it would be a size limit....

mike03$$$
August 10th, 2007, 22:29
check out my Desemu compability list thread

maxipower90
August 10th, 2007, 22:31
good to have that cleared up

well any way the guy who made this, does anyone know if he worked on any emulators in the past? and were they succesful

acn010
August 10th, 2007, 22:33
supermario 64DS crash and failed

xg917
August 10th, 2007, 22:41
@maxipower: he made PSPTUBE (to watch youtube on psp). everyone thought it was impossible to do it but he made it possible which i was impressed with :)

@mike: what about your thread? you didnt update it yet. u should as a mod to see if u can get that thread moved to PSP Emulation & Homebrew Forum.
also. update your first post and put this,

Pokemon Dash, Tetris Demo, ..zelda movie trailer.., phoenix wright, ..Metroid Prime Hunters Demo Video.., Final fantasy III, Table Hockey.

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/694/screen1ya3.png
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4519/screen1ne8.png
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n204/spylogo3/screen.jpg

SOURCE: QJ Forums

acn010
August 10th, 2007, 22:44
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/acn010/yoshi.jpg
yoshi island ds worked too

xg917
August 10th, 2007, 22:46
wow that game must be fun. i bet it has to use touch screen though..

acn010
August 10th, 2007, 22:47
yeah... you do
bomberman land touch also worked

xg917
August 10th, 2007, 22:48
dang. even though we only tested a few games compatibility doesnt seem so bad at the moment. lol

acn010
August 10th, 2007, 22:53
ummmmmmmm........ im scaared with pokemon trozei its still loading... the memstick is still blinking for a good min (O.O)

xg917
August 10th, 2007, 23:01
how long does it usually take to load a game?

acn010
August 10th, 2007, 23:03
like around 30 sec to load min.... but pokemon trozei took a good 4 min (o.O)

maxipower90
August 10th, 2007, 23:04
what can ya do when they load, just watch?

lol sorry acn lol i should test it but my laptops screwed, i cant download, however im hoping its cause of my download limit

xg917
August 10th, 2007, 23:06
sit nd watch is all you can do when controls dont work..

acn010
August 10th, 2007, 23:07
its ok.... basically yeah... that is all i can do... watch... lol (besides, it makes a compatibility to such emu in order to know if somebody is gonna use this source for psp)
but i can edit for button settings, yet im scared if i alter something, the emu wont load... so i prefer a person that knows more than me do the job

mike03$$$
August 10th, 2007, 23:10
how do you move a thread?

acn010
August 10th, 2007, 23:12
i think mods can do it

The EX
August 10th, 2007, 23:15
Mods can do it.

acn010
August 10th, 2007, 23:17
Mods can do it.

shut the **** up.... dude seriously stay away from this thread, you caused too much damage

The EX
August 10th, 2007, 23:18
I'm entitled to post just as much as you are. Don't go starting an argument again.

acn010
August 10th, 2007, 23:21
pokemon ranger wont load stays white for a good moment

xg917
August 10th, 2007, 23:26
Mods can do it.

it depends on what their privlages. so dont be correcting acn JUST yet
see you both after ban time :p

y is there a date set for his next release? august 17th i heard is his next update of the emu or something.

The EX
August 10th, 2007, 23:28
All Moderators can do it. I won't be banned for correcting someone, and if I am... I don't see why you wouldn't be either.

xg917
August 10th, 2007, 23:31
i would say something back but its so not worth getting banned over it.

acn do you think that the region type of games matter?
ie: mario 64 ds (usa), mario 64 ds (jpn)

Shrygue
August 10th, 2007, 23:31
Enough with this petty arguing, keep to the topic at hand - all of you.

acn010
August 10th, 2007, 23:37
xg917, i dont have such region games, so i have no idea

RunawayPrisoner
August 10th, 2007, 23:40
I am guessing that the compatibility of this emulator is a little bit inferior to the latest DeSmuME release... so maybe games that worked on two or three versions earlier may work... while those that have not worked up until the latest version may not? Just a speculation. And if the next release is then... a port of a next version of DeSmuME, maybe we can expect a tad bit more compatibility with game... and probably something will be sped up as well.

Edit: And yes... the region may affect some games... but it's very game-dependent. As far as I know, games that run well in one region will also run well in another region.

acn010
August 10th, 2007, 23:41
i must agree

JKKDARK
August 10th, 2007, 23:42
I am guessing that the compatibility of this emulator is a little bit inferior to the latest DeSmuME release... so maybe games that worked on two or three versions earlier may work... while those that have not worked up until the latest version may not? Just a speculation. And if the next release is then... a port of a next version of DeSmuME, maybe we can expect a tad bit more compatibility with game... and probably something will be sped up as well.

Edit: And yes... the region may affect some games... but it's very game-dependent. As far as I know, games that run well in one region will also run well in another region.

Maybe, but don't forget there are various releases by different coders.

RunawayPrisoner
August 10th, 2007, 23:48
You mean various releases by different release groups? *coughhack* Well, if you rip your own ROM, (which is inconvenient as heck, last time I tried... and it's still illegal according to Nintendo documentations), that won't be the case. But yeah, there are bad dumps out there alright... but they're very rare.

dark heart
August 11th, 2007, 00:01
mine doesn't work, and the readme is in Japanese

xg917
August 11th, 2007, 00:17
its the rom that doesnt work so dont wory about it. test another.

funy56
August 11th, 2007, 02:22
Anyone can help me? How is this DS EMU work? Do I need to convert the orginal ds rom? Can anyone give me the instruction? Thanks

j78046
August 11th, 2007, 02:43
o.k.

It's easy to make fun of someone from across the internet. All those 12 an 14 year old kids do it all the time. I bet if that person you were flaming were standing right in front of you, you would say anything. You'd keep your mouth shut.

That's what all the flammers on this thread should do. Shut up!

And those of you that would have the balls to flame someone to their face, you should be F@#$%ed up.

Because no one is above an @ss Whoopin!

J

Also, to those two dudes that were trading racial remarks, you two should get out of this country. Cuz every one know's all of north America belongs to the indians.. Duh!

J

j78046
August 11th, 2007, 02:56
hey, instead of have that guy from the daily show as your avitar, you should but a picture of a black dude. then, everyone will shut up, Cuz that will mean you like black dudes.

j78046
August 11th, 2007, 03:05
oh yeah, does this emu have access to the kernel memory? N E one know?

mike03$$$
August 11th, 2007, 03:18
do you mean flash0 and flash1 i can tell your new to this

xg917
August 11th, 2007, 03:42
j78046:

1: u dont got anything to do wit da argument
2: dont talk about it, you can get banned. wraggster said people are watching this thread to report anything going on so you are just making it worse.
3: i dont think it has kernel access :/ not sure

am now testing sonic rush.. memory stick light is flashing a lot and there is a black screen, im going to let it along for a few minutes EDIT: it loaded and a little yellow box with japanese text came up. now the memory stick indicator light is flashing more, i guess its going to the main menu now

mike03$$$
August 11th, 2007, 06:22
alright anyone thinks this will go into wifi one day

xg917
August 11th, 2007, 06:27
r u crazy..

ALTIMITHacker
August 11th, 2007, 06:50
alright anyone thinks this will go into wifi one day

Even I'm optimistic but .....wow.

DimensionT
August 11th, 2007, 07:25
The words I wrote promoting my new song "War Between Ideals" fix this thread rather nicely...

For every ambition, there is contradiction.
For every belief, there is negation.
Life is lived on this battlefield of discrepancy.

Hope, be it for love or justice...
Must be fought for with determination.
This is the "War Between Ideals".

Fight, or face the wounds of vendetta.

On topic:

Are people really making a compatibility list for this? What's the point?

Game1 - Gets to title screen, 1fps, can't play w/o input
Game2 - See above
Game3 - See above
Etc...
Etc...

That gotta be what it looks like, no?

lplover2k
August 11th, 2007, 08:10
Posted this on qj.net, posting it here:

"Yeah, someone finally ported DesMuME to PSP and the newbs are just going wild over it. "omg everyone said it couldn't be done but someone did it and we sure showed you!" I could have told you from the start that this could be done - actually, I was nigh certain that someone would eventually do this. Does that mean that it qualifies as "DS on PSP"? Not at all.

Unfortunately no one seems to understand that this will never be fullspeed, and the compatibility will probably remain terrible. People think that porting an emulator is a big accomplishment - well, it isn't. When it comes to this stuff on PSP the accomplishment is in getting it to run quickly, not to get an existing emulator (that struggles to reach full speed on a PC..) to run on it. DS emulation will NEVER run well on PSP, and this emulator in particular will probably never even run a fraction as fast as it could.

To whoever ported this, shame on you. You probably just did it for the blind attention, which you're very much receiving. You should know full well that you haven't actually accomplished anything."

Hopefully no one HERE will be ignorant enough to respond to me "oh yeah? look at gpsp!"

lol getting jealous?!?? it's just a port on psp...we all know it's impossible to get full speed... but still it's a nice port :)

Gizmo356
August 11th, 2007, 08:12
lol getting jealous?!?? it's just a port on psp...we all know it's impossible to get full speed... but still it's a nice port :)

You call this a nice port? All it does is load the rom and if it doesn't crash it goes to the title screen and it has no input so your stuck there.

xg917
August 11th, 2007, 08:39
1. its the first port/emu of NDS for PSP so dont expect much out of it
2. i dont think Exo is jealous.. its true that anyone couldve easily ported this and that its kinda a waste of time since it will never be full speed unless this coder can code big time.. also i still appreciate that someone took the time to port it when no one else wanted to. its not bad to be curious how this would turn out. exo if you took the time to make a DS emu then that would be great! you r a hell of a coder and i believe that you would be able to make the best out of this moment :) honestly i think there would be no competition between you and the guy that ported this if you decide to make a DS emu.
3. the coder/porter made psptube so i wouldnt underestimate him yet..
4. gizmo just to let u know this is a demo.. its not the real deal as of yet. lets just wait to see if this progresses later in the future

acn010
August 11th, 2007, 14:16
Test Release
PEOPLE... UNDERSTAND, ITS JUST A TEST ON HOW THE PSP WOULD REACT ON THIS EMU... AS FAR AS I CAN SEE THIS EMU RUNS OK WITH SOME GREAT COMMERCIAL GAMES... I HAVE TESTED SOME AND THEIR RUNNING WITH FULL GRAPHIC AND SOUND, PROBLEM IS JUST SPEED... IF SOMEBODY WORKS WITH SUCH SOURCE IT MAY BE POSSIBLE TO RUN GAMES ATLEAST ON DECENT SPEED, NOT ONLY THAT, THE BUTTON SETTINGS MUST BE IN A SPECIFIC WAY TO EMULATE AS THE DS.....
AS FOR NOW, THIS EMU IS JUST A TEST ON HOW THE PSP WOULD REACT TO THE SOURCE CODE

andwhyisit
August 11th, 2007, 15:13
If I recall, there was a touch screen for the PSP already made or in development, for homebrew purposes.

If it is coded from scratch with support for analog stick touchscreen or the touchscreen accessory thing, as well as the ability to show only one screen at once to double the speed, then this will work, maybe not entirely at full speed, but close enough.

It'll probably take a LONG time to get that far though, but it would truly be worth it.

When there is nothing more to work on with the current emulators, maybe the DS emulator could become a final joint project for everyone to work towards.

maxipower90
August 11th, 2007, 15:52
full sound you say, is it that good?

acn010
August 11th, 2007, 15:55
If I recall, there was a touch screen for the PSP already made or in development, for homebrew purposes.

If it is coded from scratch with support for analog stick touchscreen or the touchscreen accessory thing, as well as the ability to show only one screen at once to double the speed, then this will work, maybe not entirely at full speed, but close enough.

It'll probably take a LONG time to get that far though, but it would truly be worth it.

When there is nothing more to work on with the current emulators, maybe the DS emulator could become a final joint project for everyone to work towards.

psp touch me was canceled long time ago due to the lack of money, it was never produced. so yeah

Mr.Denny
August 11th, 2007, 15:57
Can anyone suggest a game that shows off the best of the ability of this test release?.

Thanks :)

Mr. Shizzy
August 11th, 2007, 16:07
^^^ Thats exactly what I was going to ask...

acn010
August 11th, 2007, 16:13
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/acn010/pika1.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/acn010/pika2.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/acn010/piika3.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/acn010/yoshi.jpg
enjoy
(all games are slow, dont expect atleast one running ok)

Mr. Shizzy
August 11th, 2007, 16:18
Do we have a compatibility list?
Some games like Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney ,
or trauma: Life in the ER
probably wouldn't need to run fast to enjoy. :)

acn010
August 11th, 2007, 16:19
there is no button input.. so its not good yet....
and the speed is like 1-3fps, lol

Hiei311
August 11th, 2007, 16:39
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/acn010/pika1.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/acn010/pika2.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/acn010/piika3.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/acn010/yoshi.jpg
enjoy
(all games are slow, dont expect atleast one running ok)

how r we gunna play ds like that???

gdf
August 11th, 2007, 16:45
the idea isn't to play it.

will thiws be taken any further? doubt it.

acn010
August 11th, 2007, 16:53
how r we gunna play ds like that???

its just a test!!!!!! an experiment!!! :rofl:

wraggster
August 11th, 2007, 17:37
can someone do me a favour and take screens of any games that at least run on it, want to do a newspost and make clear what it can and cant do

mike03$$$
August 11th, 2007, 18:13
wraggster we already have a compability list thread in the psp hacking area but theres no screen shots up though

acn010
August 11th, 2007, 18:19
true and also i have pics proven fom last page
here wraggy:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/acn010/pika1.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/acn010/pika2.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/acn010/piika3.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/acn010/yoshi.jpg
enjoy

xg917
August 11th, 2007, 18:25
@maxi: full sound means that sound is already supported (i think) when i tested a few games i heard sound but since the framerate is really low the sound is super choppy. one way to get the emulator to run faster is to disable sound but there is no way to do that at the moment. and there are no graphical errors from what i saw yet which is good.

i tested a few other games myself and i wouldve taken screenshots. i posted screenshots here that were found on qj yesterday. ill repost them
and acn i cant believe how long u waited for pokemon dash to load! i was watching get rich or die trying and i swear that by the end of the movie it finally got to the main screen where it said pokemon dash, and the sound of the game was horrid!


EDIT: http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n204/spylogo3/screen.jpg

edit2: http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/694/screen1ya3.png

acn010
August 11th, 2007, 19:02
acn i cant believe how long u waited for pokemon dash to load! i was watching get rich or die trying and i swear that by the end of the movie it finally got to the main screen where it said pokemon dash, and the sound of the game was horrid!

yeah. lmao!!!!! but hey, it worked all the way to the menu... it was worth the wait XD i even have to go somewhere i still let it continue :rofl:

xg917
August 11th, 2007, 19:24
rofl! does it say touch to start in the main screen? i only saw the pokemon dash logo then i turned it off a few minutes after.. and look i cleaned the compatibility list. take a look at it.

acn010
August 11th, 2007, 19:59
iono. i reset it after it loaded cause i wanted to hear music and stop staring at the screen for the slow emu

maxipower90
August 11th, 2007, 21:04
how hard would it to add button function as games like mario kart can be played without touch, so speed is the only thing holding this back, well im sure theres other factors but im sure with a good coder the speed could be increased slightly

xg917
August 11th, 2007, 21:11
yep speed is the main issue.. compatibility isnt an issue at the moment. about half of the games tested loads and the other have dont. which is pretty good start.

acn010
August 11th, 2007, 21:24
microphone function too. um... headset???

xg917
August 11th, 2007, 21:28
what game uses microphone? thats not the main issue though. we wont be able to use the microphone unless speed makes the breakthrough

acn010
August 11th, 2007, 21:31
IF!!!!!!!!!! its possible
do you think guys were the only website doing such testing on emulator and popping out ideas for this emu???

xg917
August 11th, 2007, 21:44
possibly not.. qj locked their thread so i dont think they r doing it. they only tested a few games. im gona go to maxconsole and other places to see their reactions towards the emu

acn010
August 11th, 2007, 22:03
http://youtube.com/watch?v=twbXWV4qDqg
wtf?!?!?!?!?!

xg917
August 11th, 2007, 22:19
fake <_<

xg917
August 12th, 2007, 00:51
heres a screenshot of mario hoops i took since wraggy wants some pics uploaded here

also if you want to check out the Compatibility thread: http://www.dcemu.co.uk/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=70849
over 20 commercial games have been tested ;)

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/622/screen1ub2.png
http://www.dcemu.co.uk/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=20166&stc=1&d=1186880927

ab88
August 12th, 2007, 03:03
IF!!!!!!!!!! its possible
do you think guys were the only website doing such testing on emulator and popping out ideas for this emu???

DC emu users are the only stubborn ones. If you look back a the thread there are like 20 pages of spam by the same members trying to use the same arguments that fail to prove much. QJ did well in locking their thread as it was leading to constant flames and nothing else. Just wait for a next release( If there ever is one) and see what happens.

xg917
August 12th, 2007, 03:10
i heard the coder was planning to release an update by the 16th of this month or somewhere around there. and no1 is flaming..

Harshboy
August 12th, 2007, 03:18
This is rediculous and stupid. The emu is slow as hell on PC (Well, for games worth playing anyway) and you can't use the Touch Screen...this is just a proof of concept and nothing more.

xg917
August 12th, 2007, 03:22
umm duh? its just an experiment, no one said its full speed or ever gona be full speed.

acn010
August 12th, 2007, 03:26
This is rediculous and stupid. The emu is slow as hell on PC (Well, for games worth playing anyway) and you can't use the Touch Screen...this is just a proof of concept and nothing more.

experiment man, experiment.......... its just that... soon will be edited..... (i hope)

thefanaticgamer
August 12th, 2007, 03:41
I just broke my psp using this .... what the heck ..... i tried my stylus on the screen and now it just has a big crack in it....

xg917
August 12th, 2007, 03:52
i really hope that was a joke..

thefanaticgamer
August 12th, 2007, 03:53
it was... just trying to lighten the mood

xg917
August 12th, 2007, 03:54
thanks cuz i was lmfao after i read that xD

RunawayPrisoner
August 12th, 2007, 05:21
Here's something to note... in case no one ever mentions it: If this coder was good enough, he would have written the codes from ground up... and optimized them exclusively for the PSP, instead of porting the codes, and trying to "optimize" it for the PSP. However, that isn't the case, so... ehh... judge for yourself.

xg917
August 12th, 2007, 05:26
already mentioned. i dont really care though.
another picture of a running game for wraggster
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/7932/screen1wq8.png

andwhyisit
August 12th, 2007, 09:20
The reasons why no-one has tried to make a DS emulator:
1. People don't get the idea of it when you can just buy a DS.
2. No-one would want to build such a complicated emulator from the ground up.
3. No-one believed it was ever possible to begin with, which would put people off from the start.
4. THAT STUPID APRIL FOOLS JOKE.

The only reason why anyone would try DS emulation on the PSP is because of NekoMiMi. Regardless of whether or not the emulator is good or not, it will open the doors to DS emulation on our PSPs, because otherwise it would have never gotten anywhere, or even started for that matter.

bah
August 12th, 2007, 09:54
Why the hell are people so interested in this.

It does not run games, it will not ever run games anywhere near full speed, it does not 'open the door' for a better ds emulator on PSP.

It just causes newbs and youngsters to get over excited and make huge threads filled with expectations that it somehow indicates an emulator of the quality of gpSP/Daedalus must be close when it does no such thing.

Andywhyisit:

1) That would be the same for any console emulated on the PSP, its more the controlls that are an issue that makes buying the console make a lot more sence.

2) Those talented enough to write a DS emulator for the PSP from scratch are aware that even after a HUGE amount of (unpaid) time and work, there is very little chance of having the DS emulated anywhere near full speed on the PSP.
Can you imagine spending all that time writing something so complex only to hear 'when will it be fullspeed, surely its not much further now that its running on the PSP'.

3) Theres a difference between a possibility of something and there being a purpose in doing it.
I don't think anyone doubted something like this may come out, but its just not in any way an indication of the possibility/plausibility of emulating the DS on PSP.

4) If a seemingly impossible task is accomplished, out of the blue, on april 1st, I for one would be rather suspicious.


I can really understand how all this hype would bug Exophase.

BurningRage
August 12th, 2007, 11:06
why do you guys still bother with that? we know it's crap, all statements have been stated a dozen times and there is nothing new to come up...
can't you just lock this thread?

xg917
August 12th, 2007, 18:42
why the hell do you guys take the time to say negative things about an ------>EXPERIMENT TEST RELEASE <------
and people are interested in TESTING things.

1. we already have been told that its never going to be full speed (do u think i care?) no!
2. how do u know that nothing new is going to come up? u dont!
3. exophase should just leave this alone. y does he care so much about this. and y do u care about this?

this is for people that want to test this so you guys can stop wasting your breath for our sakes..

i dont want to hear you guys speak of this again because all your posts including exo's is just the same S*** over and over again and just give it up that its just a test release. i and other people interested in this have given up that its never gona get full speed.

RunawayPrisoner
August 12th, 2007, 19:14
why the hell do you guys take the time to say negative things about an ------>EXPERIMENT TEST RELEASE <------
and people are interested in TESTING things.

Welp, then I'll be frank: you're wasting your time. And those that are trying to tell you things are those that don't want you to lose those valuable time... but eh... if you wanted to, just go ahead and do it.


1. we already have been told that its never going to be full speed (do u think i care?) no!

Like the above.


2. how do u know that nothing new is going to come up? u dont!

Coming from current coders of DS emus themselves... as well as someone like Exophase, and you still won't believe it, then I guess no one can?


3. exophase should just leave this alone. y does he care so much about this. and y do u care about this?

He only came in to say a few things, don't accuse him of that. Reason stated above. That and... newbies of the scene will jump in, and rant for all day long about this and etc... and then some will start bothering our developers to make this a reality for them. See the problem? It's not just you wasting your time... but it's also about how others are going to bug developers about this. You don't want to know how much Exophase was bothered about gpsp...

xg917
August 12th, 2007, 19:21
k. ill admit i may be wasting my time on this but i dont really care since i have nothing better to do for a few weeks.. this isnt even the only thing i am doing

i actually do know how much people bothered exo about his emulator. and also i highly doubt anyone will remember this emulator if nothing else happens to it. also the coder doesnt even go on these forums or anyone elses so thers no problem i dont think he will be bothered about it.

RunawayPrisoner
August 12th, 2007, 21:38
I am not talking about that coder, I am talking about Exophase, or others like him like ZX-81... because newbies are most likely to bother them. Sincerely, Exophase's comment for the PSP homebrew community is not a very positive one... all due to the fact that people bothered him that much. I only bothered him to rest after gpsp 0.9... since he worked his ass off for 0.7 and 0.8.

xg917
August 12th, 2007, 21:48
many people are missing him/wanting him back.. i jumped into the scene around 0.7 and i noticed people pushing him to add something andyea

RunawayPrisoner
August 12th, 2007, 22:03
He has life, too, you know... and he's moving today. And no... he's just moving to a different place in the same province... he's not going to work as a mad scientist for Russia... but he'll be back, when he feels like it.

xg917
August 12th, 2007, 22:07
everyone has a life. im the one that usually says coders are people too and coding isnt the only thing they do in their lives. its just been a while since ive seen exo's work in action which makes me feel like he stopped working (for good) but yea.

wait why are we talking about him again? lol. i totally forgot what we were talking about before. for any harsh words i said, im sorry. no hard feelings?

RunawayPrisoner
August 12th, 2007, 22:22
Noticed how I never used any harsh words at all? I really don't mind these discussions... as long as they don't bust into flaming. Anyways, we're talking about him because... we are, I guess? And he hasn't stopped working on it. His latest GP2X port of gpsp is in fact... an improvement over 0.9. He just hasn't bothered to check back to the PSP to update 0.91 or 0,92... since he doesn't seem to like small bug fixes (hence why 0.8 was kind of buggy... but he moved onto 0.9 anyways)

Back to the matter at hand, it doesn't look like Exophase would think that he could do a full speed DS emulator on PSP, also... due to the fact that the DS has 2 ARM processors... and the ARM9 is a whole new level of pain... compared to the ARM7. The PSP does indeed have the ME, which may run as fast as the main CPU... but because Sony only allows so much codes to run on it, it's still pretty limited... and synching would be another problem.

xg917
August 12th, 2007, 22:46
i would love to see him take on the challenge. or at least wifi for gpsp. lol taht would definately take my mind off of ds emulators for a good amount of time. but if he ever does make a ds emulator it would be way better than this test emu that was released no doubt which just makes me wonder how long this can go.. but either way its not gonna happen.

geise69
August 12th, 2007, 23:16
Please lock this now pointless thread.

xg917
August 12th, 2007, 23:19
1. threads usually get locked when they are out of control
2. i doubt anyone would listen to you
3. why would u want this thread locked.

andwhyisit
August 13th, 2007, 00:39
Please lock this now pointless thread.
You can always post somewhere else. If you are not interested then why are you here?

Just to be able to have working and playable games, regardless of speed, will be a good enough achievement for DS emulation on the PSP.

The EX
August 13th, 2007, 12:00
1. threads usually get locked when they are out of control
2. i doubt anyone would listen to you
3. why would u want this thread locked.

1) Take a look through this thread, especially pages 20-27. Is that out of control enough for you?
2) Actually, I agree with him. THis thread is completely pointless. I'd much rather listen to thim then you.
3) Because it serves no point what-so-ever apart from proving that a DS emulator is never going to happen, especially not a fullspeed one.

xg917
August 13th, 2007, 17:19
great now its gona get locked cuz ur back <_<

dark heart
August 14th, 2007, 07:49
i can't compile this, i find it really hard to understand this guy, can someone tell me how to set this up?

btw, i think it's very possible that the nds roms can run on a psp, psp is considerably higher powered.
(unless the ds is hiding something)
the only problem i can see here, is that touch screen will suck. (no problem for me though, i don't like using it) and i like this idea, we could probably do stuff like play ds homewbrew. and playing metroid ds would be better with the analog stick.

it can be pulled off but you'll need the sort of patience alot of people trying to do things like this won't have.

good luck:)

Gizmo356
August 14th, 2007, 07:55
1) Take a look through this thread, especially pages 20-27. Is that out of control enough for you?
2) Actually, I agree with him. THis thread is completely pointless. I'd much rather listen to thim then you.
3) Because it serves no point what-so-ever apart from proving that a DS emulator is never going to happen, especially not a fullspeed one.

How is DS emulation never going to happen if this is a release thread for a NDS emulator?

sasukexiii
August 16th, 2007, 03:56
I think this is the first time I ever posted in this whole forum, but this thread got me kind of mad, I just realised that many in here are just like in QJ, Something happens, a theory or w/e, and there is a smart person that actually knows what he is doing, right now this would be Exophase( I really respect you I love ur work on GPsp ^_^*wonders why Exophase even posted here), and after him goes about 1000 other people writing negative things about the subject and they practically say the SAME thing Exophase said. This really makes me sick its just like QJ...some of you really need to mature a bit.

On the emulator, I think its great even if its going to be 1 fps for ever, it reminds me of the port of psx a while back, and I just dont want people killing this because, who knows many have been defyed lots of times before with psp homebrew. So people just give it a chance and stop crying!!! > <

EDIT: OMG look at my join date, and this is the first time I post!!! XD

Jasdip
September 2nd, 2007, 18:42
to all those that laugh at their friends because psp can have a ds emulator just stfu can you even play a proper game yet LOL? can you play it online LOL? can you play it wireless 8 player LOL? no you can't no not yet just shutup don't spam and atleast wait for a proper fkin release.

geez so many babies grrrrrr.

Stick to ps1 games
snes games
genesis
& finally
gba games for psp nothing else really worth getting =/........

Custom xmb's and the occasional psp rip.

CaptainMorgan4
September 2nd, 2007, 18:56
Umm StrmnNrmn's N64 emulator is great and having full speed with sound NES, Genesis, and SNES games is a fun thing to have. The Nintendo DS is for little kids, the PSP is far better even though it's greatness comes from Homebrew rather than Sony.

DanTheManMS
September 3rd, 2007, 00:49
The Nintendo DS is for little kids, the PSP is far better even though it's greatness comes from Homebrew rather than Sony.

Great use of trolling. :rolleyes:
The DS has some good homebrew as well, you know.

Johnny Rash
September 4th, 2007, 09:08
I don't see this hitting FULL speed. But this seems like a pretty interesting project. I'll look into it.

SWE-95
March 7th, 2008, 17:12
doesn't work

acn010
March 7th, 2008, 17:36
doesn't work

stop bumping into old threads. and yes, it does work yet it is extremely slow to play it

sean583740
April 18th, 2009, 20:28
I still don't get it. I downloaded the useless edition, downloaded a nds rom (Megaman Double Team DS), and renamed it to test.nds and put it in with the Eboot and outside of the folder (Game 150). How can I make i work?

By the way, when I play it says Simple Sound Demo. Can anyone help me?