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wraggster
August 25th, 2007, 01:30
Someone on ebay is selling a battery prepped with the Pandora Unbricker release, the auction is priced at $80(£40), sad to see exploitation of freely released homebrew.

Link (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sony-PSP-Unbricking-Battery-Unbrick-Firmware_W0QQitemZ220142994853QQihZ012QQcategoryZ1 27742QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Gizmo356
August 25th, 2007, 01:36
The vast majority of the people who own psp's don't have psp's able to make them and a-lot of those who can't make it don't have friends who's psp's are home brew capable so the only logical way to get it is to buy it :p

Gene
August 25th, 2007, 01:41
This Asshead (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SONY-PSP-UNBRICKER-PACK-Fix-Bricked-PSPs-UN-BRICK-NOW_W0QQitemZ140151234778QQihZ004QQcategoryZ127752 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) is selling the software. Wow what dick . He deserves to go to hell.

Chameleon
August 25th, 2007, 01:42
oh sweet im so buying that right now... o wait ill just make my own :P

usp8riot
August 25th, 2007, 01:48
Someone ought to comment on that so people will know.

masamune
August 25th, 2007, 01:54
he doesn't even mention that its team c+d's release... I could understand someone selling psp batteries for what they're worth and offering to install this for free, but this greedy bitch should be lynched for this... How and why in the hell would someone even conspire selling freeware, just as why would someone even think of paying for it?

I just threw up a little in my mouth...

someone should hack his paypal account and give all his money to charity :) jk...

-=Double Post=-

Is he selling the software its self too!?!?!

Joe88
August 25th, 2007, 02:23
thats nothing

$400 USD

http://cgi.ebay.com/psp-unbricking-battery-unbrick-battery_W0QQitemZ160150349398QQihZ006QQcategoryZ12 2516QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/PSP-UNBRICKING-KIT-All-firmware-versions_W0QQitemZ160150349027QQihZ006QQcategoryZ1 22516QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

mcdougall57
August 25th, 2007, 02:26
The vast majority of the people who own psp's don't have psp's able to make them and a-lot of those who can't make it don't have friends who's psp's are home brew capable so the only logical way to get it is to buy it :p

sad but true :(

xg917
August 25th, 2007, 02:28
doesnt surprise me.

masamune
August 25th, 2007, 02:32
what the hell

ebay seller quote(for psp battery) :
"This is a very sought after unit

be quick as it will go very quick i believe.

It was imported in from HONG KONG a month ago"

oh my bob saget... wth?

mcdougall57
August 25th, 2007, 02:34
$400 are they joking? anyone who is willing to buy this unbricker before they hand over the money they will obviously do some research and find out that its free

LilSwish722
August 25th, 2007, 02:35
I was searchin for bricked PSPs last night and found a guy selling one for 120 USD

ish420ism
August 25th, 2007, 02:44
This is Fu-ked up.

cal.kriptic
August 25th, 2007, 02:46
Can you use any battery for the unbricker or dose it have to be that pandora one??

usp8riot
August 25th, 2007, 02:51
The pandora unbricker turns any battery into a pandora battery.

DimensionT
August 25th, 2007, 02:51
oh my bob saget... wth?

Lmao! That's from the Turrets Guy right?

Anyway... I can say that 40 bucks is a little much. What do new batteries go for on eBay? I could understand him selling it for the price of the battery, plus maybe 5 bucks for the work (for everyone that only has access to one PSP). Even then, he should be crediting C and D for the effort put in to making it possible.

On a side note... I went on eBay looking for a bricked PSP to use Pandora on and saw that they're already going for a good amount of money. Ended up buying a working PSP with M33-2 firmware and a 2G memory stick for 30 bucks more.

Gene
August 25th, 2007, 03:04
You can easily buy a cheap Chinese battery on ebay for a grand total of about $10 US. Much cheaper to do it yourself.

The best thing to do is to not buy into this crap. If nobody buys it, they'll stop selling. Easy.

DimensionT
August 25th, 2007, 03:09
You can easily buy a cheap Chinese battery on ebay for a grand total of about $10 US. Much cheaper to do it yourself.

The best thing to do is to not buy into this crap. If nobody buys it, they'll stop selling. Easy.

The point is, not everyone can do it themselves. Even if they know HOW to do it, they need two PSPs to do so.

Harshboy
August 25th, 2007, 03:15
What mindless idiot would spend $400 for a battery when they can buy a new PSP for $180? lol.

kcajblue
August 25th, 2007, 03:25
what the hell kind of crap is that.
anyone trying to sell a pandora battery should get punched in the face.
especially if the idiot is trying to sell it for $400.

cDub
August 25th, 2007, 03:52
sad to see some idiot buy freely released homebrew.



fixed

DPyro
August 25th, 2007, 04:09
The people selling these things are only slightly smarter than the people buying them.

SketchPCIS
August 25th, 2007, 04:25
Well, personally I see nothing wrong with selling a Pandora Battery NOT the software. As long as it's reasonable (I think 40-60 dollars is fair, given the NORMAL Market price of batteries, and not cheap ass knock offs that will die after 100-200 charges...of course, the seller should say the TYPE of battery with this as well) and the seller is upfront that you're paying for the battery, and a nominal fee for the work they've done creating the Pandora Battery.

Now, I also think they should credit the team responsible for making this all happen, but that will probably never happen.

What can we do about it in the mean time? Report the listings. If Sony isn't already doing something to get it stopped (Remember how Blizz cracked down on people selling accounts and eBay had no choice but to agree and stop them?) we all can by simply reporting the listing as having 'illegal' or 'copywritten' materials within it for sale. Even if it's not true, eBay will still look at it as a 'will this get us sued by Sony?'

Joe88
August 25th, 2007, 04:39
$400 are they joking? anyone who is willing to buy this unbricker before they hand over the money they will obviously do some research and find out that its free

yea
the people who bought it are retards
2 people bought it

when I found it yesterday it said 5 left
now theres 3 left

(-.-")

DimensionT
August 25th, 2007, 04:43
Well, personally I see nothing wrong with selling a Pandora Battery NOT the software. As long as it's reasonable (I think 40-60 dollars is fair, given the NORMAL Market price of batteries, and not cheap ass knock offs that will die after 100-200 charges...of course, the seller should say the TYPE of battery with this as well) and the seller is upfront that you're paying for the battery, and a nominal fee for the work they've done creating the Pandora Battery.

Now, I also think they should credit the team responsible for making this all happen, but that will probably never happen.

What can we do about it in the mean time? Report the listings. If Sony isn't already doing something to get it stopped (Remember how Blizz cracked down on people selling accounts and eBay had no choice but to agree and stop them?) we all can by simply reporting the listing as having 'illegal' or 'copywritten' materials within it for sale. Even if it's not true, eBay will still look at it as a 'will this get us sued by Sony?'

Seriously, dude...

Why are the people bashing the buyers of these batteries? If they don't have two PSPs (one homebrew able to make the battery, and one bricked) they can't do it by themselves... Period.

The only choice is to send it in to an unbricking service, or buy a Pandora battery... And why would you send it in if you could have something re-useable for around the same price?

Only thing people should be complaining about is the price, and the fact that credit to the authors isn't being given. Selling the software for the memory card is wrong too... They should just link to it. Preferably on the author's site.

MicroNut
August 25th, 2007, 04:50
This is terrible:
5.99 on Ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/Unbrick-Downgrade-ANY-PSP-No-Matter-What-Firmware_W0QQitemZ200145255231QQihZ010QQcategoryZ6 2054QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) for the information on how to unbrick.

mike_jmg
August 25th, 2007, 04:58
That's nothing, The very same day the software got released I saw a post on www.mercadolibre.com.mx about an unbricking service for us $35

DimensionT
August 25th, 2007, 05:10
This is terrible:
5.99 on Ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/Unbrick-Downgrade-ANY-PSP-No-Matter-What-Firmware_W0QQitemZ200145255231QQihZ010QQcategoryZ6 2054QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) for the information on how to unbrick.

Yeah, that's pure and utter crap... I already sent him a message about it.

How do you report someone without buying from them?

hacksparrow
August 25th, 2007, 05:11
holy moly, both of the people consumers & sellers are not us tho...we have good helping intentions of havin free fun, & sellers are out for their own gain

i'm damn sure neither of those peoples are native 2 dcemu or any likeness

sourced
August 25th, 2007, 05:22
somehow i knew something like this would come

Joe88
August 25th, 2007, 05:30
your should be able to report any seller that is selling illegal items or free software (like selling free-ware for profit) under copyright, not to mention it circumvents (as ebay would put it) copy protection on the PSP by reinstalling 1.50 on it

DimensionT
August 25th, 2007, 05:42
I couldn't find an option about "selling free software", so I just reported him for "selling information on how to circumvents copyright protection" or something.

Hopefully he takes it down, or it gets taken down.

masamune
August 25th, 2007, 05:55
somehow i knew something like this would come

indeed, this will always happen... I mean unpatched gta lcs and lumines prices were way beyond unreasonable... Fanjita even mentioned it in one of his blogs "the morality of downgrading" Noobz, C+D, as well as all other coders are undoubtedly discouraged by lame happenings such as these. But they seem to be getting past all the bs and continuing with great releases like this one.

felonyr301
August 25th, 2007, 06:11
im not surprised about this, but really they are greedy bitches but this is a capitalist's nation so the only ones who should be ashamed is the ignorant people who buy this.

As with anything people should know how to research something before they buy it. $400 for that battery when a psp costs less than $200, whoever buys it should get bitch slapped-- many times...

luis_05
August 25th, 2007, 06:20
burn him!!!

KuLeD00d
August 25th, 2007, 07:27
I admit, reading it at first I was furious.. but reading a bit. I must say.. It can be understandable
If you're one of few in your area, you've learnt about homebrew and you hear news your psp can be unbricked, you would -have- to buy it, right? think about it, you've not really got anyone to speak to. So a sensible price would be fair enough, I do agree that credit should be given to the brilliant teams that brought us this!

Those that know me in the real world, they know I'm sort of "the guy" to ask about homebrew for the PSP. I admit I don't know much about the physical coding aspects, but when it comes to simple curiousity such as "will this brick me psp?" "how can I do this?" with homebrew related things, I can give them a answer. In my sig you might notice a count of downgraded psps. This is people who trust me to do this. But think. if I wasn't there. would all those people have their psp's custom firmwared? My friend that really got me interested in the scene didn't know about it until I showed him (back when downgrading 2.00 was a major accomplishment!)

I'm gonna stop writing now or I'll just end up ranting in an endless loop

SnoopKatt
August 25th, 2007, 07:31
Well they're selling the batteries for so much because they say the buyer can start an unbricking service with them. But unfortunately, this is the only option for a lot of people because not everyone knows someone with a homebrew capable PSP. Tomorrow or sometimes soon I'm probably gonna convert my old PSP battery to a Pandora battery in case I'm in a position like this.

specialist83
August 25th, 2007, 07:46
i presume hell is a large place n those ppl juz registered their names in it...

Veskgar
August 25th, 2007, 09:01
I don't see what's so terrible about it. If there are people too lazy to learn and buying something like this opens the door to homebrew, so be it.

However, the way I would do it is charge a little extra and set aside a certain portion of the sale to donate to the team responsible for the software to make the battery.

boyblitz
August 25th, 2007, 10:17
Thanks for thinking im an idiot guys for being one of the first to buy it. But seriously i wouldn't of found this auction item if n00bz never posted the free download on the site to spark curiosity. I already had a argument with the guys and maxconsole and my reply was thusly:



Well obviously you do and i donts like the cut of your gib. Considering you dont know my situation and impatience. I posted another message on your forums explaining. Not that you would understand as your most likely a 16 year old jobs worth who is a supervisor at pcworld and like to spend his time on ebay annoying people telling them they could get stuff for free but in order to make the parts you would need to have a working fairly expensive component (in this case a psp).

But for you only my precious here is how my purchase went:


1. Psp bricked
2. n00bz post a message about diy jigkick battery mod
3. cant afford to buy a cfw or 1.5 psp to make it
4. cant afford to buy a pre cfw motherboard to make it
5. Got no soldering skills for a UP
5. Can afford £40 to get a battery on ebay before i go on holiday to get my psp working again for the plane.

Never jump to a conclusion and if your not happy then sell your own batteries on ebay with a £1 profit margin to put him out of business.

Your sexy sex god. Boyblitz

So there you go im not an idiot the reason i found this auction was because i knew the software was released for free but required a working psp. His doing me a service and at the moment its expensive but its also supply and demand. Know what i mean.

Oh and guys he is selling a battery, not the software he is only linking to it. So technically in ebays eyes he is selling a battery and nothing more. ;)

boyblitz
August 25th, 2007, 10:24
Also the cheek of you kids telling people on ebay that what they bought (contractually i might add) they could of got for free. You are going to p!ss some people off. Im sure if you guys hound the sellers and not the buyers then he might add a note to the auction stating he is only charging for labour and the battery and the software is made by..... which fyi i already donated to, have you?

.:}<3\/!}\{:.
August 25th, 2007, 10:42
Also the cheek of you kids telling people on ebay that what they bought (contractually i might add) they could of got for free. You are going to p!ss some people off. Im sure if you guys hound the sellers and not the buyers then he might add a note to the auction stating he is only charging for labour and the battery and the software is made by..... which fyi i already donated to, have you?

Yo, respect dude, i totally understand you.:cool:
what you did was right:thumbup: , just ignore the flamers:cool: .

jonezybaby
August 25th, 2007, 11:18
thing i dont understand is if u own 1 psp thats bricked! u have 2 by the software separate? so how does that work? cus u need the psp 2 be able 2 create the stuff on the memory stick!! unless ya own a card reader i guess?

boyblitz
August 25th, 2007, 11:51
Should be able to get hold of a card read fairly cheap. Why do the psp community seem so concerned? Oh well guess in some ways you have to appreciate the help if you were dumb. I wont be posting no more replys. Thanks for anyone who agrees and if you don't and your really worried about the welfare of C&D then donate and stfu :D. Thats my advice, after all there will allways be good and bad people in this world, try focusing on the good rather than the bad ;).

jeegee
August 25th, 2007, 12:15
Well, personally I see nothing wrong with selling a Pandora Battery NOT the software. As long as it's reasonable (I think 40-60 dollars is fair, given the NORMAL Market price of batteries, and not cheap ass knock offs that will die after 100-200 charges...of course, the seller should say the TYPE of battery with this as well) and the seller is upfront that you're paying for the battery, and a nominal fee for the work they've done creating the Pandora Battery.

Now, I also think they should credit the team responsible for making this all happen, but that will probably never happen.

What can we do about it in the mean time? Report the listings. If Sony isn't already doing something to get it stopped (Remember how Blizz cracked down on people selling accounts and eBay had no choice but to agree and stop them?) we all can by simply reporting the listing as having 'illegal' or 'copywritten' materials within it for sale. Even if it's not true, eBay will still look at it as a 'will this get us sued by Sony?'

Yeah reported a few, although if you read the listings you find some are not offering the actual files just battery and stick (get the files yourself).

The problem with selling a pandora is its simply immoral. Freeware is meant to be free. Total arseholes do this. :mad:

Boopop
August 25th, 2007, 12:35
lol, I've been having a little conversation with this guy. I said it was sad he was selling free software.. He said batteries and his time wasn't free. Looking at the price of batteries, his time is worth £35, lmao. Then he proceeded to tell me to F*** off ****head. What a pleasant fellow

Cokemusic
August 25th, 2007, 12:52
Yes what they're doing can be seen as immoral but it's actualy very logical to sell the homebrew on ebay , also very profitable.

Firstly things that we can get for free are sold to us every day , Diet Books (We all have a good idea of what's good for us and what isn't ,and there's tonnes of information readily availible on the net ) Exercise machines ( Our own body weight is good enough resistance for a good workout.) Get Rich Quick Guides/Books/Semminars Etc .

Basicaly people sell us items and information that we could get for free with a bit more effort everyday , the only reason why it's so expensive on ebay is because the number of people selling this information is minimal.

THe best way to kill these guys is to set up listings containing information on how to modify a psp batter to become a pandoras battery and sites where the homebrew can be downloaded.

I can't blame these guys for doing what they are doing , they aren't hurting anyone and it's not as if the idiots that did buy it where using their last pennies ( people that are willing to spend $400 on battery are either very rich or very stupid and would probably blow the money on something of even greater stupidity).

I bet y'all are just angry cus you never thought of it earlier lol.

Bane King
August 25th, 2007, 13:24
Couldn't Sony sue them for that shite?

This is almost as bad as people selling pieces of the WTC hours after the buildings fell.

Yes sirrie indeed. Those people suck their own small pee rods.

Edit: I sent one of the guys a message

Message...
So I see you're selling someone elses work and not even mentioning their names.

C+D ring a bell?

Aww but who cares right?
It's not like they are making any money. Right?
I hope you get sued.
I hope they leave you poor.
I hope karma comes knocking at your door in the form of badges with blue&red lights on their cars.

We can only hope.

Reply Back...
LOL, Aww now i feel so guilty, im going to unlist them all now and cry myself to sleep. PISS OFF. You guys must really have nothing better to do than post around the internet.

Get a life
Get a job
Get some sense

Cokemusic
August 25th, 2007, 14:19
You gotta admit , that was a pretty nice come back lol.

kjetil1991
August 25th, 2007, 15:40
this is destroying homebrew when some people sees it like a product and take the credit for it god i hope! i never see a someone do then im going to give them a punch in the face X/

DimensionT
August 25th, 2007, 17:57
Good god... People don't read the thread before they post anymore do they?


Seriously, dude...

Why are the people bashing the buyers of these batteries? If they don't have two PSPs (one homebrew able to make the battery, and one bricked) they can't do it by themselves... Period.

The only choice is to send it in to an unbricking service, or buy a Pandora battery... And why would you send it in if you could have something re-useable for around the same price?

Only thing people should be complaining about is the price, and the fact that credit to the authors isn't being given. Selling the software for the memory card is wrong too... They should just link to it. Preferably on the author's site.

Put yourself in this situation...

*You have a PSP that bricked when you downgraded or something.
*No one else you know owns a PSP (or they own PSPs non-homebrew capible).
*You find info about Pandora, and read that it needs two PSPs to work.
*You're screwed.

Like I said in the quote above:


The only choice is to send it in to an unbricking service, or buy a Pandora battery... And why would you send it in if you could have something re-useable for around the same price?

gamefreak199101
August 25th, 2007, 18:38
this is all messed up they luck we evenhave dark alex and so on and look at wat they are doing

acn010
August 25th, 2007, 18:47
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/acn010/post-48-1093386949.jpg
its obvious that people need money.... blegh... they should die!!!!!!!

xg917
August 25th, 2007, 19:07
M.I.A.M.I. = Money Is A Major Issue

Fanjita
August 25th, 2007, 20:25
Well, personally I see nothing wrong with selling a Pandora Battery NOT the software. As long as it's reasonable (I think 40-60 dollars is fair, given the NORMAL Market price of batteries, and not cheap ass knock offs that will die after 100-200 charges...of course, the seller should say the TYPE of battery with this as well) and the seller is upfront that you're paying for the battery, and a nominal fee for the work they've done creating the Pandora Battery.

Now, I also think they should credit the team responsible for making this all happen, but that will probably never happen.

What can we do about it in the mean time? Report the listings. If Sony isn't already doing something to get it stopped (Remember how Blizz cracked down on people selling accounts and eBay had no choice but to agree and stop them?) we all can by simply reporting the listing as having 'illegal' or 'copywritten' materials within it for sale. Even if it's not true, eBay will still look at it as a 'will this get us sued by Sony?'

It is of course illegal to sell the memory stick - it contains decrypted sony-copyright material.



Oh and guys he is selling a battery, not the software he is only linking to it. So technically in ebays eyes he is selling a battery and nothing more. ;)

And anyone selling just the battery is screwing over their customers - they still need a homebrew-capable PSP to generate the memstick.

If we had thought it was legal to sell the ready-made battery and memory stick, then perhaps we would have done so ourselves - an awful lot of hard work and skill went into this project. But we don't feel that it is, so unfortunately you have to obtain the tools to make it for yourself.

JPJunkie
August 25th, 2007, 21:08
Well the person who is selling it is gonna make a tidy profit!

DimensionT
August 25th, 2007, 21:34
And anyone selling just the battery is screwing over their customers - they still need a homebrew-capable PSP to generate the memstick.

I must've overlooked the fact that you need a second PSP to make the memory card. My bad :o.

Couldn't you report someone that's selling just the battery, if they're not giving the proper info about needing a memstick to make it function?

Would it be possible for someone to start a free service for the people that only have one PSP? Send in your PSP and they unbrick it using their PSP and battery/memstick.

Or would that still violate copyright laws because they're supplying you with official Sony stuff?

felonyr301
August 25th, 2007, 21:59
Seriously people should at least know someone with a psp to do this at least and in return do the homebrew on their psp for thanks... people need to go out and meet some people lol...

usp8riot
August 25th, 2007, 22:42
Or you could just have a spare battery ready to go just in case you bricked yours. No use for a second one unless you're not thinking ahead.

tallica
August 26th, 2007, 01:43
Can you flag this for abuse, or would ebay not care?

Buddy4point0
August 26th, 2007, 01:59
this is awseom! i wonder if it will be compatable with the psp slim. yea custom firmware on a slim before every1 else. thats what im talking about

xg917
August 26th, 2007, 02:04
doubt it but we will see soon ;)
i have a feeling that dark alex will come back to hack the slim.


Originally Posted by Dark_AleX
And i'm done. This thing was really done in april, may and june.
What doesn't make me not feel angry because of what those retards have been doing.

And even if I'm a plain psp user now, I want still my future psp slim to be hackable


http://forums.maxconsole.net/showpost.php?p=651184&postcount=22

Cokemusic
August 26th, 2007, 02:58
Well the possibility of hacking the Slim psp isn't the big issue , it's the amount of time that it will take is the unpredicatable could be done in hours of the PSP 2 release or it could take 6moths to a year.

thenery
August 26th, 2007, 03:08
if im runing 3.50 and i put this battery will it reinstal firmware 1.5 if its not bricked.

Safari Al
August 26th, 2007, 04:06
^ i think so but im not intirely sure. I heard two different responses both saying you can and disagreeing

BlacknBlue13
August 26th, 2007, 05:17
Can you really blame them for taking an opportunity like this, it's sad but anyone who knows how to use this battery should already know the download is free, so they'll only buy this if this is their only chance.

JPJunkie
August 26th, 2007, 16:06
Can you really blame them for taking an opportunity like this, it's sad but anyone who knows how to use this battery should already know the download is free, so they'll only buy this if this is their only chance.


If they are going to sell it they should donate all the profits to team c+d

ohnonotme
August 26th, 2007, 16:43
If they are going to sell it they should donate all the profits to team c+d
not all of the profits. they should at least get money for any work they put in to it

Nicko01
August 26th, 2007, 16:58
yeah, i would be fine if they would sell them if they would:
1. Credit C+D
2. Tell people how they can do it themself
3. Tell them that the extra money just pays for the service to install the files to the memory stick and battery.

I think i should do that myself just so the other people dont make tons of money, and to help other people get homebrew.


300th post BTW :)

Johnny Rash
August 26th, 2007, 20:29
It was only a matter of time before people began exploitation of it. But it's only a matter of time before everyone discovers it's free.

quzar
August 27th, 2007, 00:53
What a waste of front page space. This kind of thing happens by the hundreds a day.

psman
August 27th, 2007, 17:41
this person really needs some help think about it he is that sick headed to sell something that was intended to help people for free? wat a jerk no wounder people say that greed takes over people its because slime like him exist in our world