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buildit92
September 30th, 2007, 01:40
After 3 days, the Void Team have called it quits. They will not be making a new 3.71 cfw. We will have to wait until someone else comes up with one.


We retired

Good because we retired, we have met and we have decided it. The reason is easy and simple “OS ” HAS EATENTHE HEAD; nothing but that the type that Dark_Alex can program? Because we go, we have been visiting forums by Internet and nothing but that we see LAMMERS LAMMERS and but LAMMERS then wing lammers go away and you remain without anything, now you go and you cry to the Dark_Alex that to him that does it, because that is a fan, for the people who do not know will say: Oh! That maquina! , but if it plays the hiding place, now I go away, now I am created team, and they always are such that they program and they remove things, you do not realize? Because whenever somebody comes near to scene you throw a kick in the ass, in addition for people that we worked in the reverse engineer and we programmed is not nothing of the other world, which passes that people as we have much work, and many projects and for that reason we were not interested in these things, and for once somebody is interested alaaaaa to call it of everything. Ademas, that but gives that tuneeemos or not the XMB, that happens that if tunea is not team serious, now if not tunea if, buah then if the type that Dark_Alex tuneara, already all: novate that maquina! Crack crack. We know that much people have put much confidence in us, and who animate to us but we go that if this becomes a monopoly since it fence the KING well to him because we come here neither vacillating nor insulting single we have announced something who we go to do and asi treats to us, for that people whom he despises to us and he insults to us:


NOTE:The orignal language on the site for the post is spainish so i translated it to engilsh.
Void Team (http://voidteam.blogspot.com/)

ICE
September 30th, 2007, 01:46
god almighty why is everyone so stuck up??!? these guys never proved their worth and yet they still run their mouths. yeah people need to lay of and give devs a shot but god come off you're high horse.

mikebeaver
September 30th, 2007, 01:56
Oh what a shame.
Back to school for them on Monday it is then :P

Mike..

Elven6
September 30th, 2007, 02:23
Jeez if they couldn't pull it off why did they go touting it?

Nicko01
September 30th, 2007, 03:20
" 'os ' Has Eaten The Head!!"
Lol!

pibs
September 30th, 2007, 03:50
Okay we are retireing, we have come together and decided. The motive is plain and simple "it has eaten our head" nobody other than DAX can program? Why we leave, we have been visiting pages and we just see LAMMERS and LAMMERS and more LAMMERS and the lammers leave and we are left with nothing,and now you go cry to DAX to go do it,because he is an affiliate, for the people who don't know they might say: Oh!! what a machine!!, but he does play hide and seek, now y leave, now i make a team, and its always the same people who program and come out with things, don't you notice?

i would translate more but i have 2 leave but it seems they are pissed off with the scene. sry i couldn't translate more

DarthPaul
September 30th, 2007, 04:11
I was gonna translate but pibster gave us a good translation. :)

That's it, they're just pissed off because of the names the people are calling them, like lamers, and fakers... who called them fakers anyways? :rolleyes:

Lol well, I knew this from the beginning. They were fakers. Real coders that want to make a little contribution to the scene just release their stuff without saying anything or they just don't listen to people's opinions.


Edit: Here's my translation, with my own words:


We retired

Well, we gave up, we made a reunion and decided this. The reason is simple, "PEOLE CHANGED OUR MINDS" that the only one that can make a CFW is Dark_AleX??? Because we were visiting forums all over the internet and we just see people calling us LAMERS, LAMMERS and more LAMMERS. Well the "lammers" now leave and left you with nothing, now go and cry to Dark_AleX and ask him for the firmware, because he's a professional, the people that don't know about this will say: "Oh! What a machine!" but he plays hide and seek, he left, made a team, and they're always the same programming and releasing stuff, don't you realize? Because every time someone try to come to the scene they get a kick in the a$$, besides, for the people like us, that work with the reverse engineering this is nothing out of this world, it's just that people like us work hard, and we have a lot of projects and work to do. And what if we customize the XMB? If someone doesn't customize it, he's not serious? And if he doesn't, he is serious? Now if Dark_AleX customize it everyone will be like: "Oh fantastic! Crack crack". We know a lot of people trust us, and they cheer us up, we came here in peace without insults, if you want to play a monopoly, then let's leave this to the KING. And for those with the insults, we have this: * A PICTURE OF A FINGER * For those that were with us, real thanks. Thanks for all, and for the future coders, we hope they're more patient, because for this... we think the same will stay."

alexvander
September 30th, 2007, 04:20
thats sad quiting after 3 days. if they would have taken a few more weeks they coulda made something. how could they to acomplish anything in 3 days on their first cfw

Prasoc
September 30th, 2007, 09:22
i think they relised it was a monumentus task so they made up an excuse to cover their asses

Johnny Rash
September 30th, 2007, 09:40
Such an early departure.
They never proved anything.

On a side note,
I've looked around forums and A LOT of people have been putting their "work" down. Just shows the PSP Scenes distrust towards newcomers.

Veskgar
September 30th, 2007, 09:45
Being the next CFW team is a big shoe to fit in to. After Dark_AleX, its not hard to see why some may get overwhelmed. I just hope that if Dark_AleX is truly done, he passes the source on to someone he trusts to continue work and not leak the source.

grudge1981
September 30th, 2007, 10:43
it is sad that they are leaving this soon, but honestly why even broadcast the news and try to hype it up in the firstplace if you have nothing to show... your asking to get flamed and called fakers.... why not just work in silence and release it when your done? do you really need the scenes approval before you finish your work?

ficksucker
September 30th, 2007, 10:52
"spainish"? Ever heard of spell check? Errors like this don't belong on the front page.

urherenow
September 30th, 2007, 11:05
why do so many people say it's a shame they are leaving so soon? How can you leave if you were never here? This team never released ANYTHING!
Ok, ok... I'm gonna write a full speed PS3 emulator for the PSP, shortly after I release my CFW with full 1.5 kernel support for the slim...


nevermind... I quit.

There have been so many false hopes from so many promises on so many different platforms that only 10 year olds say they are going to release something before they've actualy done it (or at least have released SOMETHING in the past) anymore.

If you can do it, then do it, then release it. 95% of the community will welcome you with open arms and the 5% that talk smack because you're not DA are a bunch of idiots so why would you listen to them in the first place?

Now the whole scene is left with but one conclusion... This phantom VE CFW crew 'quit' the scene because DA didn't release his patch yet so they had nothing to work with. Bunch of posers...

SpooForBrains
September 30th, 2007, 11:09
What a bunch of Lammers :)

splodger15
September 30th, 2007, 11:14
^ ^
lol

They are stuck far up their own arses why do you let something like that get to you why not just get on with it. I had never even heard of Team Void shows you how much they were known

yakumo
September 30th, 2007, 11:42
We retire.
Well, we retired. We have meet and this is what we have decided. The reason is easy an simple: "YOU HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED". Ony Dark Alex can program?
We have been visiting forums in the web, and we are only seen: LAMERS and more LAMERS (Yakumo's note: They are referring that people in the forums insult them saying they are lamers). Ok, then we the lamers leave and you will get nothing. No go crying to Dark Alex to do things for you, because he is only an amateur. People that does not know that he is an amateur will say: "Oh, what a machine".
But if he (DAX) continues playing to hide and seek: now I leave, now I create a team, and they are only the ones that program and release things. Don't you see that?
Why every time that someone tries to get closer to the scene you kick them in the ass?
For people like us that dedicate our work to reverse engineering, this is nothing out of this world. (Yakumo's note: they say that it is very easy for them to reverse engineering the PSP)
But people like us has plenty of work, and many projects, an that is way we have not much interest in these things. But for the first time some shows a little interest and people start calling him everything.
What is significant in the tunning of the XMB? If teams decides to tune it, then is not a serious team? If the XMB is not tuned, the team is a serious one?
But if Dark Alex decided to tune it, everyone would say "Oh, what a machine!".
We now much people were very confident with us, but if this is going to be a monopoly, then long life to the KING, because we did not come here boasting nor insulting. We have only announced something that we were going to do. For the people that insults us and reject us:

[The first Image]

For the people that supported us, thank them with our heart, and thing that this is only a lesson, and that we have seen many good sceners kicked off the scene. We are grateful for all your support and claim you continue with your support to the incoming people, that we wish they have much more patience than us, because we think that they will remain only the same as always.

[The second image]





I did the best I could do. Some translations are not exact, but an approximation.
BTW, is sad that thinks like this happen in the PSP scene more frequently every time.

dejkirkby
September 30th, 2007, 12:14
Retiring from the PSP scene is all well and good, but using the name of a pioneer in this scene, DAX is out of order.

rajabaja
September 30th, 2007, 12:44
just a bunch of haters...and LAMMERS..lolz...
this is the first time I am reading abt them and they r comparing them to DAX and Team M33..lolz...
FuK Off Haterzzz..we don't need ur Ass Edition...sorry Void Edition.. ;P

yakumo
September 30th, 2007, 12:52
just a bunch of haters...and LAMMERS..lolz...
this is the first time I am reading abt them and they r comparing them to DAX and Team M33..lolz...
FuK Off Haterzzz..we don't need ur Ass Edition...sorry Void Edition.. ;P

The scene does not need people like you, also. This kind of behavior is offensive, typical of a pre-adolescent child.

cDub
September 30th, 2007, 13:04
its sad their leaving because the scene does need a competing cfw. as much as i love DAX, hes kinda turned into the overlord of psp cfw.

aTomIC
September 30th, 2007, 13:11
it is sad that they are leaving this soon, but honestly why even broadcast the news and try to hype it up in the firstplace if you have nothing to show... your asking to get flamed and called fakers.... why not just work in silence and release it when your done? do you really need the scenes approval before you finish your work?

I agree full with grudge1981. Why not working on cfw and reports and releasing if they are finished? I think they are the lamers.

To bad for the psp scene, we need more programmers like DAX and the Noobz team.

specialist83
September 30th, 2007, 13:25
actually if we were to look at tis matter from another perspective...as in 'their' perspective...i find that it's quite understanding...

me as a person wishes to do something for the community...but before i really start doing so i juz wish to release a bit of the gd news...but in the end wat i get is juz loads n loads of unpleasent comments n negative feedbacks from 'that' bunch of ppl...

am neither aiming nor defending anyone so dun be too anxious to shoot back at me...i'm juz trying to make a point that maybe many ppl in this scene can be a bit more encouraging to new coders even before they have yet to prove themselves...as i believe that is the key to keep the homebrew scene going...

as i've mentioned above...it's juz me looking at this matter from another point of view...if u feel really uncomfortable after reading wat i've typed...simply ignore n go on to the next post...

Nocuddle
September 30th, 2007, 13:55
fuk tis, am tired of all these bollyw00dsh!ts. why im dependin on these "coders" to play my CFW on my PSP & they just went quit quit & quit. WTF watta f@gs...

im quittin for just being an end user, had enuf total. im gonna code my own 3.72 MS-XP, MS-ME, MS-98 & MS-95 CFWs & i will use it personally only or if sum1 beggin me, i will charge em $1.55 excl tax. comes with 7 days warranty but no money back. see my pawpal link on next. not, will never ever bricklikesh!t ur PSP or ur microwave.

i tel u world, i will make this CFW in 3 days! yes fukkin 3 days. my granpa helps me too! mark my word! so i hope ya all supporting me. if all goes well & no lammmas onsight on sum sh!tty board/forum/chatroom/telephone/sms/news, i promis u i'll be back & inform u next friday!

i can add a function to ur liking, eg: custom XMB. just add $0.50 per function.

Ta.

psss: pls translate tis to spanish or any other languages of ur liking. klingons ok too.

Ta again.

....

ok tat was a j/k... NOT... srly i wil make sum special WCF & tel t3h world who am i.

Buddy4point0
September 30th, 2007, 15:31
i couldnt care less that they quit, u know why... cause this just adds to the fact that no one belives them.
ok, a few days ago i show something that could easily be faked and expect you to belive that im making a firmware. now i say i quit... surrreeee.....
they didnt release anything, the didnt even give any sufiant evidence that they acually coded. this is bull shit. why does eveyone wanna be coders these days, every1 is lying and getting all offended. a while ago there wasnt problems like this, every1 was honest and now its just terrible. the community really needs to check itself because its just going downhill.

DarthPaul
September 30th, 2007, 16:07
By the way, people look here (http://www.dcemu.co.uk/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=75630).

Why do we need Void Team if we have that? ;)

danknugz
September 30th, 2007, 16:07
im starting to wonder if there isnt some darker force behind all the recent drama! its in sony's best interest to disrupt the scene and keep devs hating * each other, the end users, tacos, pie, what have you...* and "they" seem to be doning a fine job of it. these guys were OBVIOUSLY full of $h!t from the beginning, no big loss, all they did was discourage others from taking up the mantle and leading to community towards the future. so bravo , sony, you crafty bastardo, my non existent hat is off to you! but, guess what? no matter what they do, SOMEONE WILL step up! look how far we've come in just two years, if it takes another 2 years, we will carry on! the psp home brew is so almost perfect anyway, that it may not seem like a challenge, which is why i would imagine humma kuvalla ( remember him>???) and DAX got started to begin with! remember when playing GTA on your PSP was IMPOSSIBLE??? or when a downgrade from fw 1.7(?) was IMPOSSIBLE?? well, thats so ancient history that we think maybe thats all there is. id bet dollars to donuts that this is not the end!

Johnny Rash
September 30th, 2007, 16:59
The scene does not need people like you, also. This kind of behavior is offensive, typical of a pre-adolescent child.

You know damn well they signed up just to put in their crap two-cents. Post should be deleted.

In my mind,
Team Void had my full support.
And it indeed saddens me that there could have been a competing firmware.
Advancement come faster in times of conflict.

Yeah, they had nothing to show but screenshots.
But, they may have created something amazing.

JKKDARK
September 30th, 2007, 17:33
that's not good for the scene :(

osgeld
September 30th, 2007, 18:01
this isnt good for the scene

last thing we need some group of yahoos making a splash and then acting like fools 3 days later

omg no team (whoever you are), please release your vaporware, im sure it had some good somethings in it

but F if ill ever know, cause you never released anything

jaws365
September 30th, 2007, 18:21
im starting to wonder if there isnt some darker force behind all the recent drama!

THE ILLUMINATI :thumbup: :rofl:


BTW: Anybody who releases anything for free have my full respect and support. These guys did not release anything, but if they do they have my full respect and support :thumbup:

ish420ism
September 30th, 2007, 18:22
most of the peeps in dcemu are only leachers and are the true lamers. all your bullshit is driving coders off the psp scene into other projects. this includes most of the people that had nothing but crap to say on this thread. Void team is absolutely right to retire. who wants to work hard for some fuking ingrates anyways. Personally I'm glad these coders are jumping ship. Make a your own CFW, Chumps, If you can. It seems Dax choose the good forum to be on. there at least they ban people that talk shit about DEVS. Here only crap comes out of all you

F9zDark
September 30th, 2007, 18:22
I don't buy it. There is more to this than meets the eye. And if I had to hazard a guess, I'd say this team was DAX himself. Maybe he was seeing if it was worth continuing in the scene as another persona, but upon being flamed for making all the noob mistakes (I don't care what you're doing, you NEVER make a claim without evidence to back it up) and having to deal with his own popularity biting him in the ass...

He has done "this" before. He retired from Noobz, then forms M33. Now he is retiring from M33 (he said his last release would be the 1.50 kernel patch). And magically Void Team appears shortly after he announced his second retirement. Funny how shortly after he announced his first retirement, M33 appeared.

Mashphealh
September 30th, 2007, 18:38
They did say that were doing the custom firmware but the screen were on internet before of do the custom firmware. :)
I think (is my opinion) that they'd edit the file vshctrl.prx of Dark_AleX for show on the XMB '3.71 XX' .
They would have of put on internet the release of his custom firmware to close mouths.

And for last, they shouldn't insult Dark_AleX and say that he is a noob / fan, because saying it, seem lammers of true . Saying it, I think that they are children.

It's my opinion.

darkpoetjk
September 30th, 2007, 19:15
The point is this right here... they tried in 3 days something that orginally took like what 3 months to accomplish?! Then they insult DAX like he had something to do with why they quit. Everyone knows no matter WHAT you do online some lil punk jerky kid is gonna flame you.... ( waiting for flames on this post as i type) Now strikining against DAX because he basically rules the scene... childish..... so what he made the best thing out there and continues to produce what us users need. He has us by the balls and I salute him for it. He dosen't ask for money, he dosent ask for fame, he just does what he does for us. He has been flamed before and has learned to ignore it. Now if the VOID children can get over their EGO an ignore these other children and produce something then great. Will I use it... who the hell knows... it could end up being crap.... they have to make something better than DAX........and make it to where they have NO BRICKS.... its not an easy task. ONE THAT CAN NOT BE DONE IN 3 DAYS! If you can not do any of those things listed above then people will not respect you.... deal with it.

Basil Zero
September 30th, 2007, 19:18
hmm............who are they again 0_o

Seriously, first I've heard of this team xD

osgeld
September 30th, 2007, 19:19
most of the peeps in dcemu are only leachers and are the true lamers. all your bullshit is driving coders off the psp scene into other projects. this includes most of the people that had nothing but crap to say on this thread. Void team is absolutely right to retire. who wants to work hard for some fuking ingrates anyways. Personally I'm glad these coders are jumping ship. Make a your own CFW, Chumps, If you can. It seems Dax choose the good forum to be on. there at least they ban people that talk shit about DEVS. Here only crap comes out of all you

so before i start talking shit about phantom devs i should post up a news story and then cancel it right??

ok here it is then

TEAM CRANKS CFW3.71 CE (duaha the CE stands for cranks edition)

ok its been a min i retire because no one gave me respect, i want you all to BEG me to restart work on CE because i need to feel important

if you want to see the real lamers look at the statement above and find the recent CFW post that matches it

Mr. Shizzy
September 30th, 2007, 19:26
Why not just prove everyone wrong instead of quitting?

jaws365
September 30th, 2007, 19:28
They have their full right to retire because spend their own effort making stuff for a homebrew scene. I will always have great respect for DAX and his work because his work is outstanding.

I hope someone else picks it up, and to those people I will be very grateful. But canīt be grateful before I see the shit.

Johnny Rash
September 30th, 2007, 19:34
so before i start talking shit about phantom devs i should post up a news story and then cancel it right??

ok here it is then

TEAM CRANKS CFW3.71 CE (duaha the CE stands for cranks edition)

ok its been a min i retire because noone gave me respect, i want you all to BEG me to restart work on CE becuase i need to feel important

if you want to see the real lamers look at the statement above and find the recent CFW post that matches it

This joke has been made like 3 times already in this thread.
Read before you make your crap joke.
Learn how to spell.

ish420ism, is right.
Most people on dcemu are leechers.
If you don't contribute, don't complain.

Mvmajorem
September 30th, 2007, 19:51
Well, their loss not ours. If they wish to retire, then so be it. As for the other team working on the CFW scene, my hats off to you and yes, I am willing to donate!

osgeld
September 30th, 2007, 19:57
This joke has been made like 3 times already in this thread.
Read before you make your crap joke.
Learn how to spell.

ish420ism, is right.
Most people on dcemu are leechers.
If you don't contribute, don't complain.

hm just did a spell check all good except for the part i quoted, its full of crap

and im sorry i offended you with my crap joke, but apparently ish didnt see them either

and i do contribute, quite abit, i just dont make a news post every time i fart

thanks for your 2cents of input it was totally worthless to this thread, but ill call you before i post ever again to make sure it meets your approval

Johnny Rash
September 30th, 2007, 20:20
hm just did a spell check all good except for the part i quoted, its full of crap

and im sorry i offended you with my crap joke, but apparently ish didnt see them either

and i do contribute, quite abit, i just dont make a news post every time i fart

thanks for your 2cents of input it was totally worthless to this thread, but ill call you before i post ever again to make sure it meets your approval

Okay, I'll admit that your joke fits the template here.
Even if it is a repeat.

But it was comments like yours that drove these potential coders away. Liars or not.

"Guilty until proven innocent."
That's the way a distrustful group puts it.
They did nothing wrong to deserve the initial negativity. Only thing they did remotely wrong was post news to a people that are skeptical about coders.

Was their excuse for departure valid? Probably not.

But initial support could have pushed them to create something worthwhile.

By the way, don't be angry by things I type.
Because if you have a reprisal...it'll probably make you look dumber.

osgeld
September 30th, 2007, 20:44
Okay, I'll admit that your joke fits the template here.
Even if it is a repeat.

yay



But it was comments like yours that drove these potential coders away. Liars or not.

except my comments didn't come until after, yea it sucks that there was some pre bashing, but to announce something like this without anything other than 3 features is pretty much asking for it

and if they were even somewhat active they would have already known that anyone who releases a CFW is going to be held up against DA

wildcard, m33 and the small handfull of CFW modders calling their stuff new all had to deal with it

so im not sorry they had rice paper thin skin, if they wanted a better reception they should have just released it when they were done (like m33) and not put up another "were gonna" post



"Guilty until proven innocent."
That's the way a distrustful group puts it.
They did nothing wrong to deserve the initial negativity. Only thing they did remotely wrong was post news to a people that are skeptical about coders.

would have been completely different if they had something, anything to show it was real



Was their excuse for departure valid? Probably not.

But initial support could have pushed them to create something worthwhile.

some working software to give feedback to would have helped alot too, give me 5 min in photoshop and ill have a new CFW...

to top it off, i just looked, and the screenshot isn't even in the right resolution



By the way, don't be angry by things I type.
Because if you have a reprisal...it'll probably make you look dumber.

probably but i r knot smrt, und i r thick headed

F9zDark
September 30th, 2007, 20:56
Still I am of the mind that this group was DAX himself. Again look at the "coincidences". Doesn't exactly speak volumes for this group being independent:

-Shortly after DAX's initial retirement an unheard of team takes the reigns, actually releasing things. Later we find this team was DAX and Company all along.

-Shortly after DAX's announced retirement (after 3.71 CFW and 1.50 Kernel patch) ANOTHER team pops up out of no where.

-Void Team speaks Spanish; DAX is from Alejandro, Spain.

Seriously guys, think about it from a statistics point of view. The chances of having 2 teams, with a leading man from one country, doing the exact same thing (making CFW) is HIGHLY improbable. Sure there are many factors that would make this possible (maybe DAX has a coder friend who just got into the scene) but had said individual been a friend of DAX I'd imagine they would have mentioned that.

DAX, while a great coder, has used his notoriety to stir "drama". He doesn't "need" to retire, but again, it puts him in the lime light.

Why do you think celebrities do stupid things at big events? To get into the news paper, to be the "news of the week".

That is all that I think this is.

sonofsamus
September 30th, 2007, 21:54
You know nothing about statistics.

Johnny Rash
September 30th, 2007, 21:57
yay

except my comments didn't come until after, yea it sucks that there was some pre bashing, but to announce something like this without anything other than 3 features is pretty much asking for it

and if they were even somewhat active they would have already known that anyone who releases a CFW is going to be held up against DA

wildcard, m33 and the small handfull of CFW modders calling their stuff new all had to deal with it

so im not sorry they had rice paper thin skin, if they wanted a better reception they should have just released it when they were done (like m33) and not put up another "were gonna" post

would have been completely different if they had something, anything to show it was real

some working software to give feedback to would have helped alot too, give me 5 min in photoshop and ill have a new CFW...

to top it off, i just looked, and the screenshot isn't even in the right resolution

probably but i r knot smrt, und i r thick headed

You know, it never hurt to think of possibilities.
Aside all my criticism towards you, which is a tad late to apologize for.
I still think there was a possible chance that this could have been real.

Why make their own crap forum?
Why only 3 days?

Things don't add up for both perspectives.
But, assuming this is real, this is a loss.

Negative response shouldn't be initial despite the low success rate.
It's probably the reason for the low success rate.

And, if it matters, I am sorry for what I typed earlier.
It's not been a great day. I was in the mood for flaming.
Good defense though.

urherenow
September 30th, 2007, 22:30
uhh... does anybody here know what the word retire means? How can you retire if you NEVER DID ANYTHING IN THE FIRST PLACE?

unless by retire you mean sleep. Yes.. that's a good idea void! Mommy milk is warm and it's bedtime.
:rofl:

osgeld
September 30th, 2007, 23:30
You know, it never hurt to think of possibilities.
Aside all my criticism towards you, which is a tad late to apologize for.
I still think there was a possible chance that this could have been real.

it could have been, but the only thing they had were 2 screenshots, one posted here is 478x292 and the other is 320x181

now i may not be writing my own CFW anytime soon but i am learning how to program this little chunk of plastic (quite quickly imo) and 480x272 is the magic rez

why would the resize to such funky numbers? its fishy



Why make their own crap forum?


the site they used only takes a min to set up



Why only 3 days?


beats me



Things don't add up for both perspectives.
But, assuming this is real, this is a loss.
yes if it was, it would be



Negative response shouldn't be initial despite the low success rate.
It's probably the reason for the low success rate.


yea thats why i bit my tongue in the first post



And, if it matters, I am sorry for what I typed earlier.
It's not been a great day. I was in the mood for flaming.
Good defense though.

dont worry about it, im in a big ol fight with a pregnant Japanese woman on another forum

talk about getting chewed on... sheesh

osgeld
September 30th, 2007, 23:32
-Void Team speaks Spanish; DAX is from Alejandro, Spain.


150 to 300 MILLION ppl speak Spanish, and they all do not live in Spain, let alone Alejandro

just fyi

F9zDark
October 1st, 2007, 00:12
150 to 300 MILLION ppl speak Spanish, and they all do not live in Spain, let alone Alejandro

just fyi

I understand that, but considering there are maybe 4 people in the whole world who know enough about making CFW to actually do it, I find it highly unlikely that another person/group would come out of no where, speaking the same language as does the pioneer of CFW.

Again look at the facts. DAX has done this (retire, make a new team) before... Again, it seems highly unlikely that once he retired for the second time, just like the first, another team comes out of no where. Where were these teams before? Why didn't do this before? Wouldn't working on CFW require a lot of time of experimentation to figure it out? Of course it does, its not something someone can just jump into at the drop of a hat...


You know nothing about statistics.

And if you do why not enlighten us? Since you have nothing to refute what I said, you simply have proven that you are a noob, just pissed off that I may be right and gave the typical noob response.

And its not even just about statistics. Logically, something as difficult as CFW, taking into consideration that it requires a great degree of MIPS assembly programming to make it work (can you name anyone you know who knows MIPS assembly? nuff said) and the fact that there aren't any tutorials or how-to guides on making a CFW and also coupled with the fact that there are so few CFW programmers out there, you tell me.

andwhyisit
October 1st, 2007, 00:59
Personally, I think that Dark_Alex will actually end up retiring and everyone will be begging all of the people they flamed saying that they couldn't do it to actually make the custom firmware for them, guess what will happen.

I have seen stuff like this before, it's not pretty, and would be degrading to those on the other end of it.

Johnny Rash
October 1st, 2007, 02:48
I understand that, but considering there are maybe 4 people in the whole world who know enough about making CFW to actually do it, I find it highly unlikely that another person/group would come out of no where, speaking the same language as does the pioneer of CFW.

Again look at the facts. DAX has done this (retire, make a new team) before... Again, it seems highly unlikely that once he retired for the second time, just like the first, another team comes out of no where. Where were these teams before? Why didn't do this before? Wouldn't working on CFW require a lot of time of experimentation to figure it out? Of course it does, its not something someone can just jump into at the drop of a hat...

And if you do why not enlighten us? Since you have nothing to refute what I said, you simply have proven that you are a noob, just pissed off that I may be right and gave the typical noob response.

And its not even just about statistics. Logically, something as difficult as CFW, taking into consideration that it requires a great degree of MIPS assembly programming to make it work (can you name anyone you know who knows MIPS assembly? nuff said) and the fact that there aren't any tutorials or how-to guides on making a CFW and also coupled with the fact that there are so few CFW programmers out there, you tell me.

MIPS you say?
Well, as Osgeld argued with me...
There is the possibility that this entire thing is a sham.

Dark_Alex wouldn't pull this stupid stunt, why?
Because people like you would guess it too easily.

If you think that the possibility that two people of Hispanic decent having knowledge of MIPS assembly is not possible...
I would have to call you a racist.
But that's probably not the case.
(Well, hell if I know.)

F9zDark
October 1st, 2007, 03:07
I am not being racist, again its a matter of statistics and logic. The difficulty of a task is obviously inversely proportional to the amount of people who can complete said task.

If making a CFW was as easy as taking a piss, we'd have thousands of them, with thousands of coders from all over the world making them.

But they aren't that easy. In fact, it is probably the hardest programming that could be done on the PSP. Why do you think there are maybe 2-3 different CFWs out there and about 4-7 people that we know of through what they did, that can lay claim to creating CFW?

Hell not even members of DAX's own team come from the same countries...

So you're telling me that its merely coincidence that once DAX retired the second time around some unknown team jumped out of thin air? For the nth time, this is EXACTLY what happened when DAX retired the first time and M33 appeared out of thin air.

Sure people want to continue DAX's legacy, but come on, both the first and second time he retires a team forms within minutes of it? Please.

Shadowblind
October 1st, 2007, 03:16
Ugh, you people.

It could be DAX, it couldn't be DAX. If it is or not, better not to speculate; this will only end up landing him in hot water with Sony's lawyers. Besides, if it is, yay, DAX has become Spanish, if it isn't boo, DAX is gone.


Corn.

Yo quiero DAX a volver (sorry my Spanish is horribly lousy, first year ;) )

Johnny Rash
October 1st, 2007, 03:21
I am not being racist, again its a matter of statistics and logic. The difficulty of a task is obviously inversely proportional to the amount of people who can complete said task.

If making a CFW was as easy as taking a piss, we'd have thousands of them, with thousands of coders from all over the world making them.

But they aren't that easy. In fact, it is probably the hardest programming that could be done on the PSP. Why do you think there are maybe 2-3 different CFWs out there and about 4-7 people that we know of through what they did, that can lay claim to creating CFW?

Hell not even members of DAX's own team come from the same countries...

So you're telling me that its merely coincidence that once DAX retired the second time around some unknown team jumped out of thin air? For the nth time, this is EXACTLY what happened when DAX retired the first time and M33 appeared out of thin air.

Sure people want to continue DAX's legacy, but come on, both the first and second time he retires a team forms within minutes of it? Please.

The thing is.
M33 never retired.

It would make no sense for Dark_Alex to make another team and "retire", because that would make both of them retired...with M33 still on the scene.

Things just don't add up.
Yeah, it's weird and could be true.

But I won't believe it until Dark_Alex posts personally saying "I Am Team Void and I'm Being A Big Douche For Attention."

osgeld
October 1st, 2007, 03:31
OMG ITS DAX

k maby everyone forgot theres the team wildcard LE, which the sourcecode was basicly published to every human in the world

all of a sudden you dont need to know sony mips assembly you just need to start comparing code

and considering spanish (which acc to the books is the #2 language in the world) is such a widespread language cant you think for even a split second theres some Mexican, Puerto Rican, Brazilian or whoever else who might be from a country that happens to speak Spanish, team out there making progress

dude even i speak some Spanish and earlier i released news about 3.71 CW (but since retired) am i now DAX?

hardly

edit yes i know Puerto Rico is part of the USA, that was a hidden political joke, im adding this for the dense

PoorKingz
October 1st, 2007, 03:35
Meh... Those guys are wimps. They quit and cry because some people over the internet called then lamers.

BTW, I know MIPS. Useful for making cheat codes for games with DMA.

Exophase
October 1st, 2007, 06:41
If you hype software before release date, especially if you give evidence that has holes in it you're going to be flamed. Almost none of this software actually gets finished. The few times it does get finished the authors weren't busy whining about the negative feedback, instead they were focusing on finishing it to prove the skeptics wrong.

Almost always people like this either couldn't deliver or never bothered. Don't announce something until you have a lot of it done. Even better, don't announce it until you're ready to release it. Of course, if you're just looking for attention in the first place, like most of these people are...

I kinda wonder why people are so obsessed over custom firmware anyway, beyond actually getting homebrew + UMD game support.

Sterist
October 1st, 2007, 07:07
looks like a cover-up for a "i dont want to admit it's a hexed 3.52 M33"

they dont even talk like they know the basics of programming. i'd like to see a line or two of their OWN code ...

DarthPaul
October 1st, 2007, 17:30
OMG ITS DAX

k maby everyone forgot theres the team wildcard LE, which the sourcecode was basicly published to every human in the world

all of a sudden you dont need to know sony mips assembly you just need to start comparing code

and considering spanish (which acc to the books is the #2 language in the world) is such a widespread language cant you think for even a split second theres some Mexican, Puerto Rican, Brazilian or whoever else who might be from a country that happens to speak Spanish, team out there making progress

dude even i speak some Spanish and earlier i released news about 3.71 CW (but since retired) am i now DAX?

hardly

edit yes i know Puerto Rico is part of the USA, that was a hidden political joke, im adding this for the dense

Yay Puerto Rico/Puertoricans mentioned! Pwnage!

F9zDark
October 1st, 2007, 21:58
OMG ITS DAX

k maby everyone forgot theres the team wildcard LE, which the sourcecode was basicly published to every human in the world

all of a sudden you dont need to know sony mips assembly you just need to start comparing code

and considering spanish (which acc to the books is the #2 language in the world) is such a widespread language cant you think for even a split second theres some Mexican, Puerto Rican, Brazilian or whoever else who might be from a country that happens to speak Spanish, team out there making progress

dude even i speak some Spanish and earlier i released news about 3.71 CW (but since retired) am i now DAX?

hardly

edit yes i know Puerto Rico is part of the USA, that was a hidden political joke, im adding this for the dense

Brazillian's don't speak Spanish, they speak Portugese.

Sure I could be wrong, but I am merely putting forth a theory. I never said I was right (although I could be; who knows).

Point is, it just seemed real fishy to me. As far as I know, M33 retired as well, since DAX said it was "our next release will be our last".

Time will tell though.

urherenow
October 2nd, 2007, 06:46
dunno why (maybe I messed up my dev chain already) but this will just freeze 1.5 kernel for a few seconds and the PSP will power off. Try it out with the 3.71 kernel.

use home key to exit.

yea, it's kind of mean but the difference between team void and me? I actually released something!

lol

by the way, I promise this won't cause any bricks. I haven't bothered learning enough to do that even if I was mean enough to.