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wraggster
October 12th, 2007, 16:31
via NewScientist (http://technology.newscientist.com/article/dn12773-transparent-gadget-could-trump-iphone-interface.html)

http://www.youtube.com/v/aASuL7RHJHM


A touch-sensitive gadget with the sensing panel on its back, instead of the screen, is being developed by US researchers. Using your fingers behind the device allows a firmer grip and more accurate performance without obscuring your view of the screen, they say.

Multi-touch interface technology hit the commercial market this year, with the US release of Apple's iPhone in June. But the iPhone's touchscreen is not perfect, says Daniel Wigdor of Mitsubishi Electric Research Labs (MERL) and the University of Toronto, Canada.

"As soon as you put your hands on the display you [obstruct] the screen," he says, something he calls the "occlusion problem". Users of iPhones have other problems too, he adds. "Multi-touch devices detect the entirety of the touch area,” Wigdor continues. "That's what we call the 'fat finger' problem."

The two problems combined make it difficult to select precise targets, such as the keys on a virtual keyboard.

Fat fingers
Wigdor at MERL, and Patrick Baudisch at Microsoft Research and their co-authors have a novel solution to these problems. Their prototype, LucidTouch, is a device that can be held comfortably in two hands, similar to the PlayStation Portable (see video, right).

It has a large touch-sensitive LCD screen, similar to that used in the iPhone. But it can also be controlled using a touch-sensitive interface on its rear surface, a solution to the occlusion problem.

When using the rear touch interface, the user's fingers appear as shadows on the screen, giving the illusion they are holding a transparent device. LucidTouch highlights the active point of each finger with a small green dot, removing the fat finger problem. "We're trying to address the problem of occlusion by giving the user an idea of their input, while still being able to see through the hands to the screen," Wigdor says.

"I like the idea,"” says Alistair Edwards at the University of York. "It clearly addresses the occlusion problem, and using dots 'attached' to the fingers also attempts to address the fat-finger problem."

Slimming problems
But Edwards would like to see the technology pushed further. "If I had one of these, I would be wanting to try out all sorts of ideas. What about 'throwing' objects [from one hand to the other]?," he says. "Also, why not build in some orientation detectors, so that you can also manipulate objects by tilting the device?"

"We're just researchers," says Wigdor, explaining that his team just explore new ideas that are taken on by more commercially minded groups if they are interested. "But from a research point of view, we are looking at improving the user interaction."

A more pressing concern is how to slim down the LucidTouch design. The rear touch interface is currently provided using an unwieldy "boom camera" strapped to the back of the device that records finger movements.

Using a souped up version of a touch panel like the iPhone's screen is one option. But there are other alternatives. "We could use LEDs to record the movement, because they are both emitters and sensors," says Wigdor.

"You would have the back of the device covered with them, half turned on and half turned off. Then the light from the LEDs that are on would be reflected from the hands and back onto the LEDs that are off." That would generate a charge that could show where the hands are, Wigdor says.

Boopop
October 12th, 2007, 16:37
As soon as he said camera I was thinking "No thanks!" No wonder the fingers on the screen move so slow.

bungalow340
October 12th, 2007, 16:52
this is old news, i either saw this here a couple of months back, or i saw this on qj a couple of months ago...probably qj i think.

bullhead
October 12th, 2007, 18:02
Unimpressive. It seems cumbersome. Traditional touch screen will do for now, thank you very much.

bull, x.

domthegod
October 12th, 2007, 18:03
Seen it ages ago a good 4-5 months ago old news good but old.


The camera fuk that i would rather bata test sloppy s-h-i-t

:rofl:

bullhead
October 12th, 2007, 18:07
The camera fuk that i would rather bata test sloppy s-h-i-t

:rofl:

Witty

domthegod
October 12th, 2007, 18:12
Witty

Wit is a form of intellectual humour. A wit is someone skilled in making witty remarks. Thats meeeeee:) :) :) :) :) :)

remansano
October 12th, 2007, 19:14
dude... kind of useless indeed...
What I think would be really cool for "interaction by movement captured by a camera" is a game like street fighter but using that black suit with white dots that was used to make Gollum in Lord of the Rings.

remansano
October 12th, 2007, 19:18
actually, the suit was blue...
But anyway, what really matters is the concept

sourced
October 13th, 2007, 00:07
still looks in the early stages. and honestly, i think its kinda useless

kcajblue
October 13th, 2007, 01:41
thats interesting.
but using a traditional touch screen would be much easier and faster.

Tripsk8er333
October 13th, 2007, 01:52
Interesting stuff. No matter what everyone else thinks I think it is a great concept and it could be used for 3-Dimensional Touching. That would really revolutionize the tech world. I hope they drop the camera and change to sensors. Old but good I think.

DarthPaul
October 13th, 2007, 15:36
Hm.. that's huge.

bungalow340
October 13th, 2007, 20:08
i think it could be used for...ummm, i dunno, a brick maybe, or poking yout little brother when he's pissin you off with that camera sticking out, maybe just and attatchment to rule the world. Whatever use they find for this atrocity, it's gonna be diabolical. (i think i spelt a few words wrong there)

kjetil1991
October 14th, 2007, 13:13
big and fat nothing for me and yeah it sounded old

Thanatos 2.0
October 15th, 2007, 00:30
did you watch the video? They said it was a prototype in future version they would implement sensors behind the back to sense the fingers and get rid of the camera.