The Proof for Christ's Claims

ok, that was disrespectful. but seriously, i think you need "factual evidence" for christianity. look to science. also, the way you changed my post made what you were saying sound like total rubbish. you call me childish, yet you have to edit what i say in order to prove a point which cannot be proven. atheism takes more courage to do and more faith than christianity. for a start you have to think and make decisions for yourself, noit rely on others to make them for you and tell you what to do. i am very much an independant person, and the same level of individuality would be unachieveable if i were religious.

what we r saying, you don't have factual evidence to be atheist

also you cannot give factual evidence we are wrong

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Originally Posted by gdf

ok, that was disrespectful. but seriously, i think you need "factual evidence" for christianity. look to science. also, the way you changed my post made what you were saying sound like total rubbish. you call me childish, yet you have to edit what i say in order to prove a point which cannot be proven. atheism takes more courage to do and more faith than christianity. for a start you have to think and make decisions for yourself, noit rely on others to make them for you and tell you what to do. i am very much an independant person, and the same level of individuality would be unachieveable if i were religious.

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well if you were offended by my JOKE im sorry. i was trying to make light of some of this becuase when people get serious sometimes they get mad too.

um as for the no free will in religion um you dont get it. if someone died and was tortured to spare YOU as an individual would you not try and tell everyone that the same can be done for them?

the price of sin is death. you can either pay that ransom yourself or let jesus do it for you. free will. if you take it and dont go telling everyone i highly doubt you took it. its not something you can be quite about. eternal separation from a god who loves you and created you is a terrible price to pay. luckily i know this guy who can pay your way in. i'll give you his number later.

lol, but still jesus never died for YOU. he died because....the people hated him. WOOOO! why did they hate him? because he was a bulshitting con artist madman who thought he was the son of an etheral being in space who alledgedly created the universe. btw i was going to give you rep for engaging me in a decent thread about proper stuff and not just crap speak, but it won't let me because i gave you rep recently(ish). thanks for making a good discussion/argument with me on this site rather than just another funny video.

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Originally Posted by gdf

lol, but still jesus never died for YOU. he died because....the people hated him. WOOOO! why did they hate him? because he was a bulshitting con artist madman who thought he was the son of an etheral being in space who alledgedly created the universe. btw i was going to give you rep for engaging me in a decent thread about proper stuff and not just crap speak, but it won't let me because i gave you rep recently(ish). thanks for making a good discussion/argument with me on this site rather than just another funny video.

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he died for everyone. 1 Peter 2:24, "and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed."

i dont appreciate you calling jesus a blankity blank con artist madman. just because you disagree with me doesnt mean you need to insult my beliefs.

oh and thanks on the would-be rep.

oh and still no scientific proof against g-d from anyone here lol. i mean unless you count "theres no proof for g-d!!" i want scientific factual evidence!!! not opinions!!!

have a nice day ;)

sorry for yet again insulting you. it just kind of happens when i speak about religion...glad we're back on good terms! anyway, it is very hard to scentifically disprove the existance of a god. you just have to really decide for yourself (see! i wrote "decide" instead of "use your ****ING brain"!). that said it is also just as hard to prove the existance of a god. i just find it impossible to even imagine the existance of such a being. i know you will say it is all about faith, but i have faith only what i think, not anyone else.

theICE_MAN -- Why do you say spell "God" like "g-d" all the time? (Sorry if it's too off-topic...)

yeah i was wondering that...

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Originally Posted by Jeremysr

theICE_MAN -- Why do you say spell "God" like "g-d" all the time? (Sorry if it's too off-topic...)

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instead of explaining i'll just quote tactful :D

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Originally Posted by Tactful Mcbee

God's name is treated with unusual care in Jewish tradition. The divine name, YHWH (spelled with the Hebrew letters yud, hey, vav, hey) is never pronounced. Traditionally, Jews read the word "Adonai" (often translated as "the Lord") whenever reading God's holiest name in Torah or in prayer. However, "Adonai" is not God's name.

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Here is some proof in there being no supreme being; legs and teeth. We would never have created some sort of munching device if it werent for atheism. Think about it. If we had no teeth then we would have had to have had some sort of oddball behavioural habits where the opinions and onions of all humankind, men and all, they would never have thought to believe in an after-life. Instead we would have just died like flies, and then gone to heaven. But no! Instead we go through life like mindless wolves or dolphins trying to search for reason and using faith as a disguise for another way of being, as they say. They say. And so do you, you have to see where I am coming from, rejection of the dissimilar, and satisficing with the culprits of confusion.

I hope this has given you all something to think about.

bull, x.