Wii Homebrew Sites Supporting Piracy ? - The Back Up Loader is Bad for Homebrew

I love the amount of people that have pushed the panic button because the Backup Loader is finally a reality and how Nintendo will effectively shut down the Homebrew scene.

First of all, they had their chance. They were told about a possible exploit months ago and took their time to respond and then did not seem too interested about it. The only serious move they made was disabling the Twilight Hack briefly with a new update.

Next for all those people complaining about people using the Backup loader the most popular Homebrew facilities include Nes/Snes/Genesis/etc emulators, which stops people from purchasing classic titles for the WiiStore. Not only that but a Wad Manager is also pretty popular and allows people to download digital distributed titles for free. Already Nintendo will be feeling the pinch from these activities, but this is ok why?

Now with the Backup loader comes a way to boot backups on a Custom IOS via the HBC, eliminating the mod chips use, possibly the main reason people are pissed because I no of a lot of people who charge quite a large sum to solder 9 wires to the Wii Drive board, sometimes $60/£30 just to solder it! Now this will simply not be needed which would give a real reason why people have an issue with it. I also look forward to the new versions of games that could come out, I think someone already mentioned the hacked copies of Guitar Hero that are out there, and this could provide more customised versions of games available

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Originally Posted by Baboon

Tell me what the diference is by supporting this new wii software hack when already this site fully supports everything that Dark Alex does on the psp (fully unlocked system, play any unsigned code, iso compressors, iso loader, umd dumpers etc etc), plus this site also supports wii and 360 modchips etc? :confused:

Something smells of hypocarcy on here. :rofl:

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"Piracy does nothing good for the scene! Here's a review of the new DS flash card that just came out..."

I agree with the others. it's totaly pointless this site taking a anti piracy stand point without it removing alot of content on the site. every homebrew game that uses a trade marked charecter is breaking a copy right, every single emulator is breaking a copy right more so on wii since nintendo are actualy selling the games there, not to mention all the PSP stuff and adverts for mod chips and flash cards.

to behonest you cant realy take the moral high ground when your site is prety much entirly programs that break copy right laws. as no matter what way you look at it unless the publisher has said they will give the game away free to play it any way other than the original console and cartridge/tape/disc is no differant to you telling people how to run pirate games on a present day console.

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Originally Posted by Baboon

Tell me what the diference is by supporting this new wii software hack when already this site fully supports everything that Dark Alex does on the psp (fully unlocked system, play any unsigned code, iso compressors, iso loader, umd dumpers etc etc), plus this site also supports wii and 360 modchips etc? :confused:

Something smells of hypocarcy on here. :rofl:

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i think the idea that he working with is "when a companies game system gets Hacked they normally LOCK down a system and start going after ways to do homebrew with an iron fist." not "OMG STEALING IS BAD" and thus homebrew could be locked out on the wii and people that make and sell things like mod chips and such will start getting sued. thus killing off what we so enjoy. which you can say till your blue in the face "you can't keep keep a good hacker down." but that still doesn't keep a number of people going belly up ... or worse being put in jail. when backups start running wild the shite hits the fan.

well, i hate tell some of the people this but a good 50 to 60 % of all homebrew is emulation and the 80 to 90% of homebrew that people actually use is emulation.
emulation is piracy ... if you think it isn't your fooling yourself. I mean there is no way in hell you own everything you have a rom of. roms were made for the sake of piracy. If you don't own it or have never bought it .. it's stealing even if it's 900 years old. but most companies don't really care about that except they may care a little more now cause instead of buying super mario brothers on wii ware .. you just boot your rom and their out money.

all that being said, I have been completely dirt poor my hole life. so piracy has allowed me to play some games i would of never got to play. I am completely thankful for this. But as i get older i started to realize most of the crap i get i will never ever touch. I feel this will be the same with the wii as people will more then likely just want a hand full of games. most of which Most Wii owners already own as they are the only games worth playing on the damn system.

do you want to know what i dont get?? Wraggster? you care about piracy and post, emulators and premote Modchips and R4s and that sort? Yeah right.. Piracy hardly effected the ps2, gba, ds,xbox... and besides someones obviously going to make an emu or loader.. so why cry over it?/ OOO waaa someones releasing Emus but im gunna post them on my site cos i dont care about sony or sega!! waaa someone releases loader i do not want on my site!! waaa

the fact is, the computer business is almost as big as the movie industry. look what halo 3 did to that on the lauch day. if people can honestly say that piracy is hurting the gaming industry then they r stupid. this industry is growing all the time. and with the wii (where 90% of games r 2 week jobs in the making with some stupid gimmick) then its great to pirate a game. if i had paid for half of my wii games id be pretty annoyed and would of probably sold it. if a game is worthy of the price tag, then ill pay for it.

and anyone who'd pay for a 10 yr old game when u can play the roms well again thats just stupid.

The scene was bound to go down the pothole soon or later. In this case, it just might be sooner.

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Originally Posted by att

its not all about piracy.. it also would alow people to play games that arn't avaliable on the wii such as guitarhero1-2-rock the 80's ^-^

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What? How?

I personally only emulate the games I cannot get, like Earthbound for example. If I have a way to get the game legally, like over the VC, I'll do that. The backup loader is the first homebrew I've seen that carries the risk of turning the Wii into the next Dreamcast, and we all know what happened with that illustrious system.

No matter how someone explains it to me I will NOT pay $100+ for a copy of FF3 on the SNES.

I will NOT pay fees to import a game I can't understand anyways either. The beauty of emulation is you can get working hacks and translations that arn't on the market and never will be. Look at SD3, a great SNES game that was replaced in the US by Secret of Evermore, but as I cannot read Japanese I can only play the translation. Unless they release it on the VC, I'll not be playing it any other way.

The backup loader is all about getting free games too, but those take away from the current profit-base Nintendo has, not one that has been all but abandoned. I cannot support anyone embarrassing anything that will make Nintendo into another Sega.

I'm sorry to disappoint you nay-sayers, but I don't view this as hippocracy, just realism.

While it won't give Nintendo a better view of the scene, it sure won't hurt it. Remember Nintendo thinks we are the bad guys. And there's nothing inherently wrong with a back up loader. It's a little absurd to think that a back up loader is completely wrong.

Also, remember Bushing has been trying to prevent this. He even tried working with Nintendo.

I have mixed feelings, but being anti-back up loader won't really help. At some point, Nintendo needs to step up to the plate. We can't keep taking the blame for the shortcomings.

Besides, now I don't have to worry about my Wii games breaking. And realistically there isn't really anything on the Wii that I think is pirate-worthy. The Wii has the least appealing games this gen.