The director of Titanic is responsible for this?!Quote:
Originally Posted by theICE_MAN
The director of Titanic is responsible for this?!Quote:
Originally Posted by theICE_MAN
Known to be true?? Which part?Quote:
Originally Posted by theICE_MAN
You got a source?
I wasn't aware any of it had been proven. There may have been a man named Jesus who was a nutcase and claimed to be the son of god but I don't think that it's been proven that he even existed.
It could well be Jesus's remains, It's more believable than that yarn about Jesus dying, coming back to life and flying away. I'd sooner believe James Cameron than the pope. I hope it is Jesus, at least the church will lose a whole bunch of believers and power.
Lets just say that the odds of jesus's tomb being found is more likely than someone coming back to life and be done with it. Not likely, but more likely than the alternative.
Have faith in whatever you want, but don't claim that untestable, illogical beliefs are somehow the same as logic, reason and testable observations.
One claims to know all but explains nothing, the other tries to explain what It can and leaves the rest as unknowns.
I HATE people that think like this!Quote:
Originally Posted by psphax
They could find "Satan's Tricks" in their monitor!
Hmm. No way to prove this considering we have no Jesus DNA to compare it with. As for the artifacts that we have... well...
The shroud that they covered Jesus with was proven to be a fake. Not only because it was far to new, but also because the "face of jesus" on the shroud was that of a European man (longer skull then that of a middle eastern man) with long hair. According to some scripture somewhere I read or heard long ago, Long Hair was considered to be disgraceful. Our modern depiction of Jesus (white guy with long blond hair and blue eyes) came from pictures and portraits that were supposed to depict the man which were painted during the Renaissance period, and also it may have been based upon old roman artwork also (though the long hair is a bit of a wildcard)
The "Spear of Destiny" or that stick jesus got stabbed with after his crucification was split into different pieces and shipped to different rulers... or something like that. According to legend Hitler was the last person to own a piece (the tip). I cant remember but either it was proven to have come from another period, never recently found, or most likely, never was found.
It is speculated that Jesus is ~2000 years old, but it is impossible to know from sure... Even if the body found is from the same time period, it would be impossible to determine without a reasonable doubt that this is jesus. No doubt hundreds of bodies have been found in tombs from this time period. Considering that Jesus was somewhat of an icon at that time amongst people who were against Roman Rule, it isn't unlikely that early "Christian" symbols would be found in these tombs (This is based upon what the bible says about that whole palm sunday thing. It wasn't till after that many people decided they hated the guy).
I am not suggesting that I know for a fact this isnt Jesus, I'm just saying it would be near impossible to prove. Also for some reason a lot of people feel it is their obligation to disprove the bible, and an equal amount of people that do their best to prove it.
This is probably no different from your average History Channel specials on modern mysteries. Its full of holes, half truths and the conclusion will be based almost purely on speculation... Ironically somewhat like what they tell you in church. Leave history alone and strive for a better future people.