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Originally Posted by DimensionT
you're making yourself look like one of those conspiracy theorist nut jobs.
you're scared of the future? it installs a channel of your choosing. It's not a trojan horse. the channel isn't going to explode your wii down the road when you least expect it! :rofl:
I'd much rather have a Wii that works two years from now then save my self one minute and 2 steps in Zelda.
Forgive me for thinking things out.
I agree. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by sleekgeek
Seriously DimensionT chill the **** out! :rofl:
I know your heart is in the right place but enough is enough. People know the risks of doing anything on their machines that the manufactures didn't intend for you to do on them.
I personally respect all these guys who are bringing us the latest updates, breakthoughs and new discoveries etc for wii homebrew.
Keep it it up guys... we're all (well most of us anyway lol) lovin your work! :thumbup:
I'm w/ DT on this one. Fact of the matter is, no one knows what will happen. I give it a 65/35 chance that nothing will happen when IOS37 is released. As for a patch further down the road, depends on the variables. If any homebrew to boot ISOs were to be released then everything will go to hell w/i a week.
I'll wait to see the "official" channels.
Just curious, but do you know why this channel works? Do you know why it is different than official Nintendo channels? Do you know what IOS37 is? If you don't, you can read about it here.Quote:
Originally Posted by sleekgeek
Honestly, I think you will probably be safe as long as you delete the channel off the Wii before updating to a newer firmware, but I'll wait until the original coders have more of a chance to test various things with IOS37, before I install any of this.
Unless Team Twiizers have misread something on IOS37 (I seriously doubt that), one of two things can happen if you update to a firmware activating IOS37, while having that channel on:
1. The channel will simply not load, and you will be able to easily go into the Wii Settings and delete it off.
2. The installed Homebrew Channel could cause a conflict with the Wii/IOS37/etc., causing it to essentially "brick".
Hopefully, the first thing would be what would happen, but it is possible that the channel could cause it to brick, despite it apparently working fine right now. Also, contrary to what some believe, there are people who don't know what they are doing when installing things like this. If the second possibility were to happen, someone would end up with a bricked Wii.
just release it, if people dont want to install it then they dont have to, but it it breaks peeps wiis, your not responsible because its homebrew, and theres always a risk
Don't install it then and don't whine at releasers just because they don't abide by your, or teh scene's rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by DimensionT
Ignore him Jay_PaRaDoX, and keep coding away. Don't let heavily biased individuals stifle peoples coding abilities.
Nobody know's what will happen down the line, and that includes TT.
I highly doubt you guys are going to feel the same way once your Wiis get bricked. Even if you're saying "It's my fault if it happens, because I installed it", you're still gonna be on here bitching and crying when it happens. It's not physicly going to be Jay_PaRaDoX's fault, but how many people do you think are going to care? They're all going to tear into him. Following my advice would be the best thing for him to do.
None of you guys are even thinking about it. You just want you homebrew (which your join dates and post counts say you're just leeching), and you want it now.
Think about what would happen if just 30% of Wiis got bricked because of something related to these channel. That'd amount to at least 100s, possibly 1,000s of people going ape shit. Why is this a good thing?
I know most of you just want your homebrew, so think of it this way. What's going to happen to releases when 100s/1,000s of Wiis get bricked? It's going to slow down drasticly. Same thing happened with the PSP when the new motherboards came out. That bricked your PSP when you tried to install custom firmware.
@Jay_PaRaDoX:
Whatever, man. Do what you want. Just include a warning in the ReadMes, and say what might happen in big bold letters at the begining of your thread. It's bullshit to have a chance of bricking a Wii just because you're misinformed by the person that wrote the homebrew.
If you don't, I will... Because I at least somewhat care about the end users.
Actually, I'd just like to have a read me for the sake of having one. Call me lazy or unorganized, but after I accumulate enough homebrew apps on my computer, I like to have a readme in each folder in case I forget what it was for, how to install it or if it's the latest version. That's just my thought.
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Originally Posted by h2923j42n2
Yes, yes, and yes. here's the deal and I don't know why everyone is denying it. Nintendo will patch anything that allows unauthorized software on the Wii. This includes ALL homebrew. You need to pay a licensing fee to please them. This protects Nintendo and their investors. They've been working on blocking you out since the Twilight hack was made public.
You want homebrew you don't update. Plain and simple. If someone if going to blame anyone for ruining homebrew on the system then they need to realize Nintendo wasn't cool with it from the beginning.
Worse comes to worse is that if a official update bricks your system then Nintendo will have to fix it for free or there will be lawsuits.
There's no way for them to patch homebrew completely... The Twilight had is disc based. The only way to get around that is to re-release the game.
They could release an update that scans the save file and deletes it among many other solutions.
stop parroting other lamers on the forums.
The other day I saw the alpha of a USB ISO loader so the sh!t is about to hit the fan.
Way to give them ideas, Sleekgeek. lol
Wow, you're a douche bag.Quote:
Originally Posted by sleekgeek
Your theory would not work.
Q:
How would they do it?
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By scanning the contents of the saves and comparing them to the Twilight hack.
Q:
Why wouldn't this work?
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Because all that would need to be done is change one thing (ANY one thing) to get it to work again. One different character in the name, one less quater of heart, a different location etc...
Yeah, I know not to update now. I made the mistake of updating to 3.0U right away, which blocked the SD Media Launcher I was planning to buy. The last update I did was from Super Mario Galaxy, and it will stay that way for as long as possible. Anyway, all I am saying is that there is going to be people who don't know that they should remove that channel before updating, and if that update were to brick Wii's with that channel on, that's what is going to happen to them. Nintendo is not to intentionally brick any Wii that has these channels installed, but they are also not going to go out of their way to make sure these unofficial channels don't cause any problems. As these channels more than likely void any warranty, Nintendo would probably charge you in order to have the Wii fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by sleekgeek
Regarding the Twilight Hack, I suppose it may be possible to issue a firmware update that checks any Zelda save file, and makes sure that Link and Epona's name are not corrupted. If it's possible, it might not be worth it, however, as Bushing said in an interview that any game that uses a similar name system could probably be exploited in a similar way. They might not do anything if they knew that another game was more than likely going to be exploited a few days after the issued update.
LOL your mind works like that of a downey child yet I'm a d-bag.Quote:
Originally Posted by DimensionT
one character will throw them off? bwahahaha tell that to Symantec.
Do you not know how save data works? If Nintendo doesn't make it look for a perfect match, then there's the risk of deleting perfectly legit save games. Changing one byte of the code would break thisQuote:
Originally Posted by sleekgeek
And yes, you are a douche bag. You came on here posting personal attacks towards me, thinking that your opinion is somehow more valid then everyone else's around here... With no proof to back you up.
Sounds like the definition of douche bag to me.
If you look at the IOS37 page, then it won't brick. He tested it, and it works fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by h2923j42n2
Cloudy
obviously you don'tQuote:
Originally Posted by DimensionT
POS hypocriteQuote:
Originally Posted by DimensionT
*Silently watches argument slowly work towards a thread closure*
When have I ever resulted to calling Jay names? Nothing I've said to him has been based on anything but truth
All I said is that the Twilight hack could not be patched, and you came out talking shit... Making yourself seem like you're so much better then everyone here. It just didn't hold any merit.
I'm with DT on this one, a lot of things can go wrong.
I'm with taking personal grudges and arguments to PM if it's not adding any real content to the discussion of these releases.
How can I check which IOS my system is using?
My guess is that they find out by checking out what's written in one of the boot flashes. Your best bet is to probably compare your firmware with someone who knows what IOS they're on.
I believe that Bushing's Title Lister shows every IOS version that is installed on your Wii. I believe that the highest IOS activated right now is IOS36, so it would probably be somewhere around there.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingslime80
Yup. Try using title lister.
I don't think it's gonna happen any time soon. Mods are slow here :/Quote:
Originally Posted by vicious1988
New channels coming soon, so get ready DimensionT to start saying things to me like you always do :P
Nice, we know how to install channels: On to the next in an endless series of tasks.
If Nintendo is going to try to brick everybody's wiis, When will the scene be implementing their own "Nintento-Free" drivers, just circumventing Nintendo all together?
Any hopes for a FreeIOS one day? I mean just totally cut Nintendo out of the picture.
What is next? What is possible?
Unlike some, I am not so worried about what is going on in the wii scene. I am pleased and grateful for what all the programmers have been doing.
Hi can you please let us know how I can make a wii channel from a .dol file?
Thanks