That's good, because I'm hoping that when my Wii gets back from Nintendo (hopefully in the next couple of days), my copies of Gamecube titles Namco Museum 50th Anniversary and Midway Arcade Treasures 1&2 will be redundant...some of those ports are good, but some, well, not so good!
Well, looks like I'm waiting for the next release; I don't know if it's using 480p settings or what, but I couldn't launch Robotron 2084, I mean come on, it's freaking Robotron!
Hopefully we'll see a new release in the near future; in the meantime it's Gamecube port collections for me.
forget about this emulator for now, it's too slow and buggy...... it's just a "demo" of what a real wiimame emulator could do.
If, by slow and buggy you mean "perfect and bug-free" .. I agree. :)
Honestly have not had problem one with this emu, other than the 15 Rom limit. True, it may not support all roms (large) .. but the small ones are perfect!
I limited myself to under 1MB ROMs; granted I've only tried one, but the only thing I can think is that it's one of the early issues noted with displaying over component.
Robotron should be pretty basic; I don't see why it won't load, but I've got a raft of proper Wii and Gamecube games not to have to wait to initialise without an option to get back to the main MAME menu when the video hangs meaning I have to do a hard reset on the Wii. I just don't have enough game-time to waste with that.
The idea behind emulating older systems on newer systems is that they fulfill the following requirements:
1) They are quick and easy to get up and running (turn on and play)
2) They run faster than the original hardware
3) They do not have enough system control to cause instability with the parent system
4) The blast from the past is actually fun and enjoyable!
This fails miserably in every aspect:
1) It is not quick and easy to get up and running, as it sometimes doesn't run at all, tends to have problems with Homebrew Channel and normal Wii options/settings
2) It is not faster, as it takes 5-30 minutes, depending on the size of the game, just to load (if it loads at all)
3) More than 75% of the time, it causes the Wii to lock-up and requires a hard reset
4) By the time you get any game to load without crashing, you are so frustrated, the retro enjoyment is GONE!
Why on earth would I waste my time (even 5 minutes worth) to load PacMan? My Mac Mini loads PacMan in a tenth of a second.
Like I said... the concept is nice, but ultimately it is a failure and a complete waste of time.
Yeah it's a real shame; I think a large part of the problem is it's running via some kind of mini Linux Kernel as opposed to being compiled for the Wii Homebrew environment from scratch. If you could boot straight into Wii linux I bet it would run a lot better.
Ideally you'd want someone to do a native port (well, as native as using the free Wii development tools can be) a la MAME OS X on the Mac, but that would take a lot of time and coding experience.
I'd rather see this than a Homebrew version of Missile Command or Breakout myself.
In the meantime I have Namco Museum Remix, Namco Museum 50th Anniversary (even if the dots in Pacman look like little rectangles!) and Midway Arcade Treasures 1&2+AnyRegionChanger for my classic arcade fix on the Wii.
I'm sure the developer of wii mame Nuvalo said that he is currently working on wii linux... which is why wii mame has been put on hold.Quote:
Originally Posted by sean.aaron
Cool, that should be interesting and will hopefully mean a lot of other things will be possible, like MAME keyboard support or even USB mice/trackballs -- I've got a wireless Kensington Turbo Mouse that would be awesome to use with Wii MAME.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baboon
Wow, I totally appreciate what you guys are saying, but my experience differs DRAMATICALLY.
Nothing is slow, the roms I load load in.. 60 seconds?
Admittedly, I'm running Crazy Climber I and II, Defender, flying shark (sky shark), etc. BUT IT'S PERFECT!
Never a lock up, never a problem.
I load it, I choose, I'm in it, I play it, I'm done.
FWIW, I'm running component (HD), w/ Wiiconnect24 off.
Hope he does complete his plans on everything, I'd love to see more work put into this.
BUT, to anyone reading this, grab the latest version of this and stick to small roms: a blast to play!
Hmm, something must be different. Is yours a PAL Wii? What firmware version? What video mode setting?
The only ROM I tried launching was Robotron which worked fine on Mac/PC versions of MAME and is very small (less than 100k); I also figured small ROMs would perform well, but nothing happened and relaunching meant a hard reset -- it's a bit time-consuming just for testing purposes.
The SDL-Linux implementation probably made it quicker to port, but I think a native version would be a lot better. Kind of like running MAME OS X versus SDLMAME on Mac.
Went back and messed with this emulator. Pretty much most of the roms in my folder of 200 or so worked great. The average time to load games was around 65 seconds. These were all smaller games though, with the largest being 3MB. (macross 2 took 5 mins to load. Played well tho) Pre-93' Namco, Konami, Irem, Taito, and Capcom all worked quite well, minus a few non-working ones just because of special graphics etc. ie: Arabian Fight, Salovou.
I just finished playing Gain Ground, and Eswat. Both worked really nicely Even Simpsons and the TMNT games work well. That alone is awesome. :D
Also, the problem of only having 15 games listed is easy to deal with. Press start while in a game and then select, "select new game". It takes like 30 seconds to load the list of 15 roms the first time. Then, select "return to prior menu." Select the "load new game" option again. Now the list of 15 will appear instantly rather than 30 seconds. But most importantly the list will be completely different compared to the previous 15. You can just keep re-entering the rom list until you find the grouping of roms you want. Real time saver if you want to use this emu.
You try anything not Japanese? I've only tried Williams games so far: Defender and Robotron. Neither one of them will start up; both are extremely small.
What's your setup (tv, wii video settings, etc.)?
Well, another reason I gave up on this. After wasting 10min. just getting the basic app launched, doing something as basic as setting default button settings causes it to crash; happened last time, but I forgot.
Not wasting more time with this until a more stable release comes out (if ever).
I'm running USA wii, 3.2U firmware.
I've reconfig'd the buttons, never had a crash.
The only problem I've had is if I push it a bit.. say load a 1mb rom and then flip out and try to load another larger rom.
Otherwise, never a lock, never a crash, never a problem. (and I spend a lot of time in this app) :)
I am running a 4gb SD (not SDHC) card, and those are supposedly much faster, maybe that has something to do with it. (mine was like an 80x I spent 100+ for a few years back)
One other nice tip: Hit walmart, and go to their "crap sold on TV" isle. Pick up the light switch anywhere thing for 15 bux. Plus your wii into it. If it ever locks, just flip the switch, and flip it back on. Way nice. :)
I have loaded the mame emulator using TP. After it says loading and initializing the menu displays with the first game on the list highlighted in yellow but no matter what button I press I can't get it to scroll up or down the list and no game ever loads? And I do have wiiconnect24 turned off. Any ideas?
Same probem. Every time i've tried to load SMLmame, the Wii remote just loses connectivity as soon as it loads and you can't do anything. You get the list of ROMs, and if you try to press any buttons, the four blue LED's on your Wii remote just flash (what does this mean? I assume it means it's lost the connection). Only thing you can do is reboot your Wii.
I went out and bought Wii Classic Controllers and plugged them into my Wii Remotes thinking that was the issue, but still same problem.
Will someone who supposedly got this working please explain how they did it???
1) What remotes/controllers are you using? Do you need a GameCube controller or something??
2) Do you still need to put mamefs and boot.dol in the root if you have the Homebrew Channel installed, or can you just put them under \apps\sdlmame? No one seems to explain this anywhere...
3) Is SDLmame 0.125 still the latest version? There are 2 versions posted in this thread... Where is it officially maintained, or isn't it? Google just seems to come back to this thread as the only source of this emulator in existence.... I'm starting to think this is all a big prank!
Frustrated,
Thank you.
Yeah, you need a GC controller. 0.125 is still the latest version, and it seems to be maintained here: http://www.tehskeen.com/forums/showt...8732#post48732Quote:
Originally Posted by Excalibur212
I've never gotten this thing to work and every attempt is 20min. lost, so I feel the frustration Excalibur, I really do. It needs better support than is currently in place, that's for sure.
nuvalo, Great work on porting MAME to the Wii! I download the source, and was going to try to compile it myself, but I'm not sure how to get started. I ran a diff on the SDL MAME source and your modified source, and it appears you used a cross compiler. Which cross compiler did you use? The source also referenced sdl-config2. That file was not included in the source, probably because it was part of the SDL package. Do you still have a copy of that file, or do you remember what parameters need to be changed?
Thanks in advance.
- TTS
Excellent link, cheers! Looks like we can look forward to an update soon that will address a lot of issues, which is outstanding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir_Voe
Hmm... I have tried everything but can not get it to recognize the games. It always says "no games found." I would check the mame.ini as it suggestes if I could find one, but there is not one to be found, I now have 3 directories in EVERY folder on my SD card containing the games: roms, mameroms, mame_roms (to cover the link someone posted saying to use mame_roms and the readme file in the dwnload that refers to "roms".
Help!
Some people have had success, but since the dev has made progress with Stella, I think we'll hopefully be seeing a more usable version of this soon, so best have a little more patience I think.
I personally find the idea of a working Wii MAME to be totally awesome.
Hi I'm new. Installed the updated version of mamewii. After some tweaking for gamecube controller, it worsk.. but heck FRAMERATE IS SOOO SLOW. On games like aliens or altered beast , I mean music stutters. Anyone has suggestions?
Anyone still here?
forget about mame on the wii for now, it's not really worth it.
aw shit... :(
Well, the original Altered Beast arcade game can be had for 900 points on the European VC (800 in Japan).
Otherwise I'm not sure. I think there's issues with using component video. I'm still hopeful either the original dev will make some much-needed improvements or the fellow that did the ports of Stella and the Atari 8-bit computer emulator (neither of which used GC Linux) will take a stab at this.
Heck, even breaking it up into separate emulators for the various arcade boards would be worthwhile if the quality is there!
VC Arcade seems to be the way forward seeing as no devs seem to be even slightly interested in mame for the wii...Quote:
Originally Posted by sean.aaron
On Japan vc arcade they've already got Starblade, Shinboi, Space Harrier, Golden Axe, Ninja Ryukenden (aka shadow warriors/ninja gaiden), Galaga 88, Rolling Thunder etc. :)
Problem is most of my fav aracade titles will probably never get released via the vc store. :( ...I guess until things improve I'll just stick with my xbox1 for perfect mame/neogeo/cp3 etc emulation. lol
are there any risk of brick by installing SDLMame ?
Game Informer or Nintendo Power? My Game informer magazine just got canceled, and i got Nintendo Power. Should i re-new my old subscription or get Nintendo Power alone?
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