FrodoDS(c64) page added

Hi there!
A little report.
Using SuperCard SD with 1GBSanDisk SD.
Frodo correctly DLDI patched... and...
it doesn't work:(
First, the emu says that it can't read the system roms, and that it's going to replace them with the internal emu replacements. Then The c64 screen appears, but it's not resized (so that you see only the upper left quarter) and it looks buggy. No keyboard or disc selection on the lower screen - the error messages about system roms are still there.
(note that I did put the sys roms in the /rd folder, as well as some .d64 files).

I'll try experimenting a little more.
The former Frodo worked just fine (lots of frameskip, but still a little miracle to see it running on DS!!!)
Please keep the good work!
V.

PS is it just me or DLDI patching is multiplicating compatibility problems instead of solving them? (Ok - maybe it's just me;))

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your last version on the forum is really well, I tested same games that the old version .... this is speed and the sound is better !!! :eek: .

it is well to see that you work to improve it. I hope to see it progressing now. you can include a reset button :). I find that the keyboard does not answer .... some times.

Thanks GPF ;)

Hum .... Reset button for return in the games menu.

OK - I figured out where my problem lies. I looks like it won't work with a SuperCard SD if you're using it with a 1GB microSD in combo with a MicroSD adaptor. The problem - I think - is that the DLDI patcher has one option for the SuperCard SD and one for the SD Lite with MicroSD - by using an adaptor like I use to do, you get a weird hybrid which is not tolerated, giving FAT problems (even in a methaphoric sense;))

I wrote all this because maybe there's someone else which was trying to use a microSD inside a non-lite SuperCard SD.

So I bought a normal SD card and Frodo worked just fine with most of the disks which were working in the previous release. So far, only Impossible mission did not work (intro screen ok - it resets before "another visitor..." speech).

I'll test more asap:)

V.

God I really want to test this and help, but I still haven't got my DS yet! :(
I can't run it through a DS emulator anymore.(which I'm sure was no true test anyway)

Some ideas for disk swap.

Would it be possible to assign your "attach disk" function to the select button(or combo of L and R). When pressed it could just bring you back to the rd folder browser that is seen at start-up but without reseting the c64?

Perhaps assign a combo of button presses to open a small mini menu that you can choose attach disk,reset c64 or swap joysticks. If possible/necessary in the future you could add user defined frameskip if some games run better than others. The attach disk function would just browse rd folder again and return to current loaded rom.

hope these aren't dumb ideas :P
I am going to do everything in my power to get my DS asap.

Thank you again Troy.

Really huge improvement over previous release! :thumbup:

Sound is incredible! :)

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Originally Posted by crookedmouth

God I really want to test this and help, but I still haven't got my DS yet! :(
I can't run it through a DS emulator anymore.(which I'm sure was no true test anyway)

Some ideas for disk swap.

Would it be possible to assign your "attach disk" function to the select button(or combo of L and R). When pressed it could just bring you back to the rd folder browser that is seen at start-up but without reseting the c64?

Perhaps assign a combo of button presses to open a small mini menu that you can choose attach disk,reset c64 or swap joysticks. If possible/necessary in the future you could add user defined frameskip if some games run better than others. The attach disk function would just browse rd folder again and return to current loaded rom.

hope these aren't dumb ideas :P
I am going to do everything in my power to get my DS asap.

Thank you again Troy.

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nope sound good to me at least till I figure out how to add a proper menu to allow selection of all the Frodo Preferences.

I played around this morning with changing the code to allow left trigger to bring up the d64 selection screen, and have got it partially working, for some reason its not picking up the new disk selection, so I will resume working on it tonight probably.

Joystick selection is done with the select key.

Still need to add a reset method.

It is possible to test using No$gba, but you have to make a fat12 disk image(FCSR) and padbin the ds.gba file, append fcsr image, and then use my fcsr dldi patch and the resulting ds.gba file works in emulators, FrodoDS seems to only work in no$gba though, Desmume 6 seems to freeze after the selection of the disk image.

Troy(GPF)

Thanks for that info on emulation, i didn't know about joystick swapping either. :)

edit: darn I can't figure out how to do all that, lol. Don't suppose you could post that ds.gba file. Only if it's not a bother, the important thing is your awesome emulator. :)

well i think i got the disk selection working, and I have for now made the start button do a fast reset.

now left trigger no longer loads snapshots(as I keep hitting that everytime I am playing a game and it loads my test snapshot lol), so now left trigger brings up the list of d64 files in the /rd folder and allows you to select which is mounted on drive 8

right trigger still types LOAD"*",8,1 and then RUN after it is done loading.

hopefully get to test on my hardware later tonight.

Troy(GPF)

Hello GPF !!!

I am happy that you works on a menu with option. it is what it missed.

I tested a lot of games, the problem this is that when I put more that 17 games ...... I cannot go down low to see of another games. Limited at 17 games.:( :( :( (this is a problem!!!!)

I tested :
Barbarian, Karnov, Green Beret, Ghost Chaser, Bounty Bob, great giana sister, jumpman, Mr Do, Pole Position, cauldron, Rygar, Sorcery, Pitfall 2, Way of the tiger.
they are all playable ! The compatibility is very Good ! :thumbup:
Only Bruce lee Bug (graphic).
some games make me think has atari 800XL ! (Pole position, Mr DO, Gost Chaser ....)

a option for return to menu games and reset will be
welcome !

Keep Work .... !
I waiting for next version and I tested more games.... because to make a reset all times to test another games is stressing .;)
the next version should be excellent to correct this. :eek:

ah yes! if you can improve the screen of bottom, I find that the keyboard all alone is not very pretty. that will give an additional charm has frodoDS.

OK tested on my hardware and it seems to work.

Some stuff doesn't want to reset when I press the start button though.

I haven't tried multiple disk games to see if it works yet, but i can switch disks and load other things after doing a reset.

Let me know how it works.

Thanks,
Troy(GPF)

Wow this is incredible news for the DS community, seriously, two days and 4 test releases. I can't say it enough, Thank you.

Excellent job! I'm gonna play some Hunchback.

I've tested a bunch of games with the latest release and it's just getting better and better ! :)

Voice is now perfectly heard on the title screen in Ghostbusters, Commando and Rambo are now really great to play with...

There's still the collision issue with Fort Apocalypse (impossible to take some fuel without crashing) though...

Disk selection and fast reset are really handy additions!

With all of this, launching FrodoDS is no just about testing some C64 games on the DS anymore, but playing and enjoying them all the way!

Bravo GPF! :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Metaluna

I've tested a bunch of games with the latest release and it's just getting better and better ! :)

Voice is now perfectly heard on the title screen in Ghostbusters, Commando and Rambo are now really great to play with...

There's still the collision issue with Fort Apocalypse (impossible to take some fuel without crashing) though...

Disk selection and fast reset are really handy additions!

With all of this, launching FrodoDS is no just about testing some C64 games on the DS anymore, but playing and enjoying them all the way!

Bravo GPF! :thumbup:

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:) I am enjoying them also, have to remember to keep working on it lol

This is a port of the normal line version of Frodo and I can't get Fort Apocalypse to work on it either, works fine in the Frodo SC (cycle version) but I'm pretty sure this version would be to slow for the ds.
I was able to get some gas this evening while testing Fort Apocalypse, not sure if its using the "KERNEL ROM" that comes with the pc version(put in /rd folder) or if I was just getting lucky, i kept slow lower my helicopter and shooting the fuel station and either it would lower and i could get some gas or a weird sprite would appear and i would crash into it lol.

I need to figure out how to get the menu to work with more then 18 d64 games, and add some more preferences to the touchscreen.

thanks everyone for your comments, keep them coming :) I hang out in irc chat room most of the day and usually am looking for tester of Frodo and other random things, so come on by :) #dsdev on irc.blitzed.org and #dcemu on irc.efnet.net

Troy(GPF)

GPF you rocks, i can just give you a big thanks from all C64 fan like me who love your project ^^

The new version is :thumbup:

I can start again another game without restart DS !!! Thanks for this GPF.

The emulation is better (Speed and Sound) ....


continue you make very good works ;) .

Just wondering, has anyone tried multiple disk games?

Hello !

Yes I checked until now some Multi disk Games .
My first test was Seven Cities of Gold (With data Disk)
But it is freezing after some seconds. I checked same Game on PC frodo and on the same screen it is freezing . So I am not worry about FrodoDS !!!!

After Lemmings, PFS , Curse of something I checked
Newsroom but my newsroomdisk (D64) is defective!?:mad:

I checked it on other PC-C64 Emulators and same not loading !:confused:

I checked by loading (Load"$",8 ) and list and reset
change disk and again directory the function of Disk changing works perfect but I still need to check with games .

GPF please put on X-Button LOAD"$",8 and on Y-Button LIST ! It will help to load the directory faster . Also I would like to have a drive LED on the lower screen to know if it is still loading or already freezed .
The RESET Fuction is very good Thank you !!
The speed and sound great !!!!!:p


Bytepete :cool:

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Originally Posted by bytepete

Hello !

Yes I checked until now some Multi disk Games .
My first test was Seven Cities of Gold (With data Disk)
But it is freezing after some seconds. I checked same Game on PC frodo and on the same screen it is freezing . So I am not worry about FrodoDS !!!!

After Lemmings, PFS , Curse of something I checked
Newsroom but my newsroomdisk (D64) is defective!?:mad:

I checked it on other PC-C64 Emulators and same not loading !:confused:

I checked by loading (Load"$",8 ) and list and reset
change disk and again directory the function of Disk changing works perfect but I still need to check with games .

GPF please put on X-Button LOAD"$",8 and on Y-Button LIST ! It will help to load the directory faster . Also I would like to have a drive LED on the lower screen to know if it is still loading or already freezed .
The RESET Fuction is very good Thank you !!
The speed and sound great !!!!!:p


Bytepete :cool:

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In the meantime grab the "KERNEL ROM" that comes with the pc version(put in /rd folder)

It enables some special features if you check the kernel.html in the pc doc folder you see a bunch of cool keyboard shortcuts, ie F7 does load"$",8
and F1 does LIST, F5 types LOAD and F3 types RUN:

Thanks for testing,
Troy(GPF)

Works great with 14 roms in the directory.

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Originally Posted by GPF

I was able to get some gas this evening while testing Fort Apocalypse, not sure if its using the "KERNEL ROM" that comes with the pc version(put in /rd folder) or if I was just getting lucky, i kept slow lower my helicopter and shooting the fuel station and either it would lower and i could get some gas or a weird sprite would appear and i would crash into it lol.

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Shooting the fuel station worked, thanks for the advice! :)

Can you load snapdhots saved in PC Frodo from the rd folder?

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Originally Posted by crookedmouth

Can you load snapdhots saved in PC Frodo from the rd folder?

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In an older build you could if you named it jjr.fss, the left trigger loaded it.

I replaced the left trigger functionality to select a new disk to mount on drive 8.

I need to learn more about the touchscreen so I can add button for menu options to load/save snapshots and set all the other preferences still.

Maybe i'll add it back to the x or y button, would be nice to beable to load/save snapshots.

Troy(GPF)

sounded like a great idea so I decided to implement it real quick, now X button loads the pc created snapshot called /rd/jjr.fss .

Also I think I fixed the reset issue I was seeing in some games.

Enjoy this new test version, patch with dldi etc.


Troy(GPF)

Well !

I tested the FrodoDS21107.

I can't use the option "joystick" with : Bounty Bob, Pole Position, Mr Do, Barbarian in this version. With the old version, I could play the joystick by pressing touch "select". :(
.... I don't understand however with Green Beret or Karnov, I can play with the pad.....

this is possible to put other .fss and to run it ?:confused: . I tried Archon.fss but when i pressing the touch "x" .... that to run jumpman but nothing other.

thanks !!! :thumbup: now, I can see more games in menu (more that 18!), but there is a shift, that does not launch the game that I choose. but the game before.

the compatibility and the emulation is GOOD :) . The sound is not perfect.

thanks GPF !

(J'espere que je n'ai pas fait d'erreur de traduction :o )

other bugs :
I put +130 games in /rd .... When I run a game, after load and i play .... the emulator freeze.

On the bottom screen, (game load screen), ther's no space between the line "to mount on drive b" and the first game. When I try to run the first game, the cursor doesn't go up to it. It stops at the second game. After the last game there is a blank space which really loads the game before the space. I guess what I'm trying to say is all the games in my list are playable, you just have to load the game under the one you want.

EDIT: Never mind my babbling. I see Kasimir2007 already covered the issue. :rofl:

which hardware are you guys using?

On my M3SD , there isn't an off by one problem. Only problem I have is that after #16 in the list my menu doesn't scroll. I am considering switch to the menu system used by picodrive the genesis emulator.

I am seeing the joystick swapping problem also and will try to get that fixed.

for snapshots it has to be named jjr.fss to load with x button.

Troy(GPF)

I'm using a supercard cf and superkey.

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Originally Posted by GPF

which hardware are you guys using?

On my M3SD , there isn't an off by one problem. Only problem I have is that after #16 in the list my menu doesn't scroll. I am considering switch to the menu system used by picodrive the genesis emulator.

I am seeing the joystick swapping problem also and will try to get that fixed.

for snapshots it has to be named jjr.fss to load with x button.

Troy(GPF)

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Ok Troy for .fss,

I 'm using M3 DS simply with micro SD 1go.
it is strange too. When I put a lot of games in /rd, FrodoDS bug (143 games) ....

OK here is a new version that implements picodrive's file chooser to select which disk you want to mount on drive 8.

also I think I fixed the select button for select which joystick port you want.

Troy(GPF)

Now that's damn sweeeeeet! Thanx GPF!

This one crashes on the first touchscreen interaction after loading a disk. I am using M3 Simply.

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Originally Posted by 2jaxx

This one crashes on the first touchscreen interaction after loading a disk. I am using M3 Simply.

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just tested it on my DS-X and I am seeing a similiar issue. I'll see if I can get it working, might be a slot-1 issue?
But it works fine on my m3sd
Troy(GPF)

Frodo DS is working now with the Max Media Dock (DLDI patched). Can somebody confirm that the sound output is heavily distorted ? It´s nearly impossible to recognize some of the tunes, is this a known issue or something which only happens with the MMD ?

Another important thing would be a true drive emulation like Vice has integrated, only kernel based loaders are working, custom fastloaders just freeze.

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Originally Posted by Pollux1977

Frodo DS is working now with the Max Media Dock (DLDI patched). Can somebody confirm that the sound output is heavily distorted ? It´s nearly impossible to recognize some of the tunes, is this a known issue or something which only happens with the MMD ?

Another important thing would be a true drive emulation like Vice has integrated, only kernel based loaders are working, custom fastloaders just freeze.

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Yeah I still have some work to do on sound, it is heavily distorted and I haven't quite worked out why yet.

And true 1541 drive emulation is possible, just don't have it enabled or a way to set it yet, it is very very slow. When I have a way to enable it, I would recommend making a snapshot from pc version and start from it lol

Good to hear that its working on MMD though :)

Troy(GPF)

Sound distorted on some games on supercard cf also. Other than that, working great.

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Originally Posted by GPF

just tested it on my DS-X and I am seeing a similiar issue. I'll see if I can get it working, might be a slot-1 issue?
But it works fine on my m3sd
Troy(GPF)

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The former builds without the PicoDrive menu worked fine though, except the known issues concerning the corrupted selection screen where lines get mixed up. I guess the slot1-bug is a result of the recent changes.

This is OK on my M3 DS simply.

Just a problem. the number of games in repertory /rd.

I had 150 games in /rd = FrodoDS bug

Now I put 100 games, it work.
I find this emulator more and more GOOD.

:)

Hell yeah! I couldn't put my DS down last night. Played Rastan and Space Taxi for 3 hours.