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December 12th, 2006, 01:52
deniska

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Originally Posted by lastyle

Awesome Tool, no doubt. Do you think it may be possible to add a function which creates a File containing the Geodata of a marked route ? I like to have this feature for creating a route which follows all streets of a city. Think this is quite simmilar to the route tracker, so it may be possible. Hopefully i can import this data to any routing software which would give me a datailed route which contains the streetnames then.

I am not exactly sure what exaclty you asking to implement.
If you give me references to open source software which has these features, perhaps I could try to look in to it...
December 12th, 2006, 02:01
deniska

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Originally Posted by GPSFan

Hi I was wondering if there's a way where I can entire an address let's say I wanna get from where I am to 1234 DENISKA AVE., TORONTO, ON CANADA can I enter that address and it will search or are we stil looking for a way around that?

You can create a route, using windows download tool and import it in to Map This.
map This!, itself does not have enough data to calculate routes & generate turn by turn instructions.
December 12th, 2006, 02:18
deniska

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Originally Posted by DaxDce

Hi Mighty Duo!

a suggestion: what do you think to add a new screen to mapthis! ?

http://www.deathfolder.com/psp.jpg

Thanks for the design suggestion.
Post the templates for both versions the font for the digits and I'll see if i could plug it in...
December 12th, 2006, 13:19
Psyberjock

Deniska, I thought I'd run this by you before I jumped in to the program since my C++ skills are only as good as a single semester of programming in university.

I'm thinking of making a 2.71 SE-C PRX that would parse and interpret the usbgps.prx output as serial input. That way I can use the sony gps in your MapThis program. I have been dying to use your program with GPS, but I never got around to buying a receiver. Now I just bought the sony version since it's a good $30 less than the PC versions. If this is successful then I could probably also do the reverse and make the PRX also accept serial input and interpret it as usbgps.prx output.

Now, as I said, my programming skills are pretty crappy, but I can't let my gps go to waste so I'm willing to install the toolchain and build the program myself if I have to. But I'm also wondering if you could pound out a program like that in a day or two? If so, it might be more expedient if you took up the task. Or if you're planning on implementing usbgps support in MapThis, I may just wait for that.

Please let me know what you think. The sooner you reply, the sooner I can decide what I'll do, be it waiting or programming or whatever.

Thanks!
December 12th, 2006, 14:00
Russoxley187

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psyberjock

Deniska, I thought I'd run this by you before I jumped in to the program since my C++ skills are only as good as a single semester of programming in university.

I'm thinking of making a 2.71 SE-C PRX that would parse and interpret the usbgps.prx output as serial input. That way I can use the sony gps in your MapThis program. I have been dying to use your program with GPS, but I never got around to buying a receiver. Now I just bought the sony version since it's a good $30 less than the PC versions. If this is successful then I could probably also do the reverse and make the PRX also accept serial input and interpret it as usbgps.prx output.

Now, as I said, my programming skills are pretty crappy, but I can't let my gps go to waste so I'm willing to install the toolchain and build the program myself if I have to. But I'm also wondering if you could pound out a program like that in a day or two? If so, it might be more expedient if you took up the task. Or if you're planning on implementing usbgps support in MapThis, I may just wait for that.

Please let me know what you think. The sooner you reply, the sooner I can decide what I'll do, be it waiting or programming or whatever.

Thanks!

If you want to make alot of people happy, you could try doing something like that for HEN-D Users. The program runs fine but does not get any data from the GPS.
That would be AWESOME. What do you think?
December 12th, 2006, 14:41
DaxDce

Quote:

Originally Posted by deniska

Thanks for the design suggestion.
Post the templates for both versions the font for the digits and I'll see if i could plug it in...

If you agree i can send you the .psd layered file. And, if you want i can try to redisign logo, splashscreen, etc... of MapThis!.

I'd like to contribute to this fantastic project.

PS
it's possibile that the gpsf map are slower on my psp than the older, uncompressed, ones?
December 12th, 2006, 17:54
RomComZom

after you click "download the map" and you go into the preview screen with all the tiles to check/uncheck, is there a way to cancel that screen? or after if starts to downlaod. I just quit the program.
December 12th, 2006, 23:16
deniska

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaxDce

If you agree i can send you the .psd layered file. And, if you want i can try to redisign logo, splashscreen, etc... of MapThis!.

I'd like to contribute to this fantastic project.

PS
it's possibile that the gpsf map are slower on my psp than the older, uncompressed, ones?

Sure thing, just attach your new versions to this thread (zipped) and 'll use them .. if I like what I see..

gpsfs may be slightly slower than open directory structure on really large maps (1024x+)... it would also take longer to startup since it's reading the indexes in to memory for faster access.. but it has it's benefits...
You can always "unzip" it and load the good old directory structure on your MS...
December 13th, 2006, 00:28
Psyberjock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russoxley187

If you want to make alot of people happy, you could try doing something like that for HEN-D Users. The program runs fine but does not get any data from the GPS.
That would be AWESOME. What do you think?

Well, that's the idea. This should be usable in devhook as well once it's finished.

The only problem is if I have to program it alone I'll have to take a crashcourse in PSP programming before I can start. I'm hoping the nature of a GPS unit will make it easier on me. Maybe only turning it on and off and parsing the stream of data.

If it's similar to the function calls that I found for the chotto shot it should take a minimal amount of time, but again, I'm not an experienced programmer, so don't hold your breath while you wait. It could be months.
December 13th, 2006, 08:46
DaxDce

ok, let's start from the beginning.
Here's the logo:

http://www.deathfolder.com/mapthis/log.png
December 13th, 2006, 08:47
DaxDce

... the opening screen:

http://www.deathfolder.com/mapthis/opening.png
December 13th, 2006, 08:48
DaxDce

... the splascreen:

http://www.deathfolder.com/mapthis/splashscreen.png
December 13th, 2006, 08:49
DaxDce

... the background:

http://www.deathfolder.com/mapthis/background.png
December 13th, 2006, 08:49
DaxDce

... and the icon:

http://www.deathfolder.com/mapthis/icon.png
December 13th, 2006, 13:13
Russoxley187

WOW, those are sexy...
Very nice....
December 13th, 2006, 14:03
Psyberjock

The splashscreen should say "distracting" not "distructing."
December 13th, 2006, 15:14
Russoxley187

Good Point...
Anyhow, How do I add the Icon and the Opening screen?
I imagine its in the Eboot, but I have no clue on how to extract and replace it.
December 13th, 2006, 15:33
DaxDce

That proposal was just a suggestion for Deniska, if he think they're good, he can include it in the future release.
December 13th, 2006, 15:36
RomComZom

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russoxley187

Good Point...
Anyhow, How do I add the Icon and the Opening screen?
I imagine its in the Eboot, but I have no clue on how to extract and replace it.

You could use an app called PBP Unpacker
December 13th, 2006, 15:57
Russoxley187

Thank you.. Works great..

Now we just need to get that spelling error fixed...
I like the icon and splash screen alot..
What about an new arrow Icon?
December 13th, 2006, 16:30
DaxDce

...spelling error fixed. Here's some icon replacement for the arrows:

http://www.deathfolder.com/mapthis/arrows.png

http://www.deathfolder.com/mapthis/arrows5.png

a car version (Mini Cooper):

http://www.deathfolder.com/mapthis/arrows2.png

an F-150 version :-)

http://www.deathfolder.com/mapthis/arrows6.png

a motorcycle version (Honda CBR 600):

http://www.deathfolder.com/mapthis/arrows4.png

an airplane version(Mustang P51D):

http://www.deathfolder.com/mapthis/arrows3.png
December 13th, 2006, 16:44
Russoxley187

I used the Car one before..
nice...
December 13th, 2006, 18:44
RomComZom

nice work DaxDce! I made a new icon for Music Venue's.. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...usic_venue.png
I'm not to good at icon making, but oh well.
December 14th, 2006, 15:28
vitalik2k

New design, logo are cool, but the greatest thing that can be is original Sony GPS receiver support! so you dont need to solder wires, it cannot BRICK your PSP, it looks good and cost $60. Wishlist #1 is Sony GPS receiver support. Please, Deniska, make it!
December 14th, 2006, 16:09
Russoxley187

BUT..........

No doubt if you are in your car are driving you will not pick up that many sats with that antenna.
I bought an external antenna for my GPSLim 236 and I can get 13 Sats at different times. I guarantee that the PSP one will not work as good as the others.
One question though.
Maybe we can crack the GPS schematics so we can use the USB Port on the PSP with our current GPS ststems.
Then maybe deniska can make Voice commands for Map This for directions. "Like Turn right, turn Left"
Just an idea...

Deniska, what do you think???
December 14th, 2006, 16:10
Russoxley187

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaxDce

...spelling error fixed. Here's some icon replacement for the arrows:

http://www.deathfolder.com/mapthis/arrows.png

http://www.deathfolder.com/mapthis/arrows5.png

a car version (Mini Cooper):

http://www.deathfolder.com/mapthis/arrows2.png

a motorcycle version (Honda CBR 600):

http://www.deathfolder.com/mapthis/arrows4.png

an airplane version(Mustang P51D):

http://www.deathfolder.com/mapthis/arrows3.png

Dude,
are you taking requests for Icons?
I would really love an Ford F-150...
That would rock...
December 14th, 2006, 16:11
Russoxley187

Sorry about the Double post.....
December 15th, 2006, 08:39
vitalik2k

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russoxley187

BUT..........

No doubt if you are in your car are driving you will not pick up that many sats with that antenna.
I bought an external antenna for my GPSLim 236 and I can get 13 Sats at different times. I guarantee that the PSP one will not work as good as the others.
One question though.
Maybe we can crack the GPS schematics so we can use the USB Port on the PSP with our current GPS ststems.
Then maybe deniska can make Voice commands for Map This for directions. "Like Turn right, turn Left"
Just an idea...

Deniska, what do you think???

Yep, original Sony GPS is not such sensitive than bluetooth GPS on your car's roof, but Sony use SiRF Star III - like other GPS products. I think original Sony GPS is more user-friendly especially for noobz (plug it to usb and run MapThis), no need to buy remote control, cut off wires, resistors, even you can brick your PSP. This scary word BRICK holds away most of noobz from this MapThis
December 15th, 2006, 08:56
DaxDce

Quote:

Originally Posted by vitalik2k

Yep, original Sony GPS is not such sensitive than bluetooth GPS on your car's roof, but Sony use SiRF Star III - like other GPS products. I think original Sony GPS is more user-friendly especially for noobz (plug it to usb and run MapThis), no need to buy remote control, cut off wires, resistors, even you can brick your PSP. This scary word BRICK holds away most of noobz from this MapThis

you can find gps unit already mod for psp on internet.
December 15th, 2006, 12:33
Psyberjock

but you can find a gps unit made specifically for psp (and cheaper) at your local game shop. (well if you live in Japan like I do)
December 16th, 2006, 10:58
Russoxley187

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psyberjock

but you can find a gps unit made specifically for psp (and cheaper) at your local game shop. (well if you live in Japan like I do)

thats one of the advantages of living in japan...
Too bad I'm not stationed there anymore.
December 17th, 2006, 02:10
xb0xb0y

Holux 240 cable

Is the communication cable wiring for the Holux 240 GPS the same as the 236? And is the feature and functions identical for both units? I'm looking to purchase a GPS unit to use with my PSP and Map This and trying to decide which one to purchase.
December 17th, 2006, 06:21
icsocket

Quote:

Originally Posted by xb0xb0y

Is the communication cable wiring for the Holux 240 GPS the same as the 236? And is the feature and functions identical for both units? I'm looking to purchase a GPS unit to use with my PSP and Map This and trying to decide which one to purchase.

Yes. I am using 240 with original (236) cable design.
They are virtually identical but I think 236 has a few advantage over 240. Longer battery life, user replaceable battery, external cable connector. Possibly better internal antenna since it is bigger.

But 240 is smaller, look much cooler. :cool:

Oh, I forgot one thing. 240 output voltage is lower than 236. I tried without register, but it seems(not a fact) PSP got little bit unstable, so I decided to use 1K register as with the original design. No problem so far.
December 18th, 2006, 11:33
vitalik2k

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaxDce

you can find gps unit already mod for psp on internet.

But with original Sony GPS i can play GPS enabled games. anyway mapthis for original sony gps is best solution
December 18th, 2006, 15:43
Russoxley187

maybe Deniska could make the SONY GPS work with Mapthis..
That would help ppl with not making cables.
I was a little scared about bricking mine, but i used no resistor and it works like a charm...
Never have a prob....
December 18th, 2006, 16:36
deniska

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russoxley187

BUT..........

Maybe we can crack the GPS schematics so we can use the USB Port on the PSP with our current GPS ststems.
Then maybe deniska can make Voice commands for Map This for directions. "Like Turn right, turn Left"
Just an idea...

Deniska, what do you think???

This was answered a few times before, but I'll repeat since people seem to be still confused. Please correct me if I missed some new developments on this issue..

PSP (as of 2.71 FW) could not serve as USB host, and usb protocol assumes client-host communication. - ie you cannot connect two clients together...
Holux devises use serial protocol for communication .. they just use the usb connector (very confusing...)

So far I was not able to run any of the "standard" sound libraries (madlib,mikmod,etc) together with GPS mode (kernel mode plus a couple of modules to load). perhaps someone could take a closer look at this issue - it's not on my list of high priorities for now. Sound would, in fact, require extra wireing and external speakers with current setup, since the phone plug (required to power up the comm port) "mutes" psp's internal speakers...
December 18th, 2006, 16:51
deniska

Quote:

Originally Posted by vitalik2k

But with original Sony GPS i can play GPS enabled games. anyway mapthis for original sony gps is best solution

About the original GPS unit from Sony setup--
I'll try to look in to this but there are two "show-stoppers" so far:
1) I don't have the original GPS unit and not really anxtious to spend my money on one. In my opinion, "generic" GPS devices are still more versatile and better value. For example, you can still use your holux receiver with a notebook or a cellphone, in case your psp dies.

2) I am not really good at cracking new FW modules.
So if someone shows me (read - posts working code sample) how to access data from Sony recever via the gps module, I'd gladly add this functionality to the application. There may still be questions about the data format that Sony uses (I really hope they use NMEA 0183)

But it's all not without hope...
People offered to setup a donation thread to get me Sony's GPS device for my experiments... so we'll see how it develops. No promices though... :-)
December 18th, 2006, 17:01
deniska

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaxDce

... the opening screen:

http://www.deathfolder.com/mapthis/opening.png

DaxDce, thanks for cool graphics. I do like the logo, opening screen, icon and the splash screen.
I'll make sure they get in the next release...
I'll try to play with the arrow icons to see which one works the best for me...
December 18th, 2006, 23:33
Liriel

i had a little wish . thats the funktion to read out the real speed that the vehicle have
December 19th, 2006, 01:01
deniska

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liriel

i had a little wish . thats the funktion to read out the real speed that the vehicle have

what do you mean?

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