NJ Updates his Neogeo MVS and CPS2 Emulators to v1.51

read the "readme.txt" ^^

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Following games are supported by MAME, but will never support in MVSPSP.
(I HATE these hack/bootleg games.)
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ROM set Game title
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kof97pls The King of Fighters '97 Plus (bootleg)
zintrckb Zintrick (hack / bootleg)
mslug3b6 Metal Slug 6 (Metal Slug 3 bootleg)
cthd2003 Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon 2003 (The King of Fighters 2001 bootleg)
ct2k3sp Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon 2003 Super Plus (The King of Fighters 2001 bootleg)
kf2k2pls The King of Fighters 2002 Plus (set 1, bootleg)
kf2k2pla The King of Fighters 2002 Plus (set 2, bootleg)
kf2k2mp The King of Fighters 2002 Magic Plus (bootleg)
kf2k2mp2 The King of Fighters 2002 Magic Plus II (bootleg)
kof10th The King Of Fighters 10th Anniversary (The King of Fighters 2002 bootleg)
kf2k5uni The King of Fighters 10th Anniversary 2005 Unique (The King of Fighters 2002 bootleg)
kf10thep The King of Fighters 10th Anniversary Extra Plus (The King of Fighters 2002 bootleg)
kof2k4se The King of Fighters Special Edition 2004 (The King of Fighters 2002 bootleg)
ms5plus Metal Slug 5 Plus (bootleg)
kf2k3bl The King of Fighters 2003 (bootleg, set 1)
kf2k3bla The King of Fighters 2003 (bootleg, set 2)
kf2k3pl The King of Fighters 2004 Plus / Hero (The King of Fighters 2003 bootleg)
kf2k3upl The King of Fighters 2004 Ultra Plus (The King of Fighters 2003 bootleg)
svcboot SvC Chaos - SNK vs Capcom (MVS) (bootleg)
svcplus SvC Chaos - SNK vs Capcom Plus (set 1, bootleg)
svcplusa SvC Chaos - SNK vs Capcom Plus (set 2, bootleg)
svcsplus SvC Chaos - SNK vs Capcom Super Plus (bootleg)
samsho5b Samurai Shodown V / Samurai Spirits Zero (bootleg)
lans2004 Lansquenet 2004 (Shock Troopers - 2nd Squad bootleg)
ms4plus Metal Slug 4 Plus (bootleg)

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Is there any way to get into a training mode in MvsC, I doub't so since it's the arcade version but I have to ask, maybe some dip switch tweaking or something? :D

And about 1.51, I don't understand the google translation sorry, does it work with zip compression again, if so do we need to convert the files all over again, is speed as good as uncompressed, or is it really slower now as people are mentioning?

An advice for those new to the emu, remember that in neogeo roms after converting them you can delete the C and V files to save TONS of space. Remember to make a backup of the rom before trying this however so you don't delete anything critical.

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Originally Posted by pichon

An advice for those new to the emu, remember that in neogeo roms after converting them you can delete the C and V files to save TONS of space. Remember to make a backup of the rom before trying this however so you don't delete anything critical.

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Do u delete this from the cahe or the rom?

from the rom. Basically, when you convert the rom the sound files are repeated twice, both in the cache and the rom itself, so you can delete safely this files from the rom itself. For example, in garou, you can delete all the 8mb files in the rom zip and you will still get perfect sound from the game (so that's 80mb more of space per game)

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Originally Posted by pichon

from the rom. Basically, when you convert the rom the sound files are repeated twice, both in the cache and the rom itself, so you can delete safely this files from the rom itself. For example, in garou, you can delete all the 8mb files in the rom zip and you will still get perfect sound from the game (so that's 80mb more of space per game)

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Is it easy to reconise what the sound files are called then? or are they all aprox 8mg files?

Thankyou for that, i've put messages in the help section but nobody replied. This is a great tip to save space, ill try this later.

In big roms they use to take 8mb while in smaller ones its about 4mb. They are the ones with 'c' or 'v' in the name if I remember well.

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Originally Posted by tunglashor

As I understand it, raster effects are used to update the display mid-frame - basically the hardware calculates what to draw line-by-line, instead of frame by frame. So turning on this setting should improve certain animations etc. It requires more work by the CPU so for complicated games the speed is likely to decrease. Basically, try it for each game and if the framerate suffers, leave it turned off.

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Hi!

As i know, raster effects are used to change colors so fast that every line appears to have a different color - it is even possible to change so fast that every pixel gets a different color. Old systems have a limitation how many colors can be displayed at the same time. For example 32 Colors chosen from 4096. With raster effects you get access to all 4096 colors by always changing one of these 32 chosen colors. Understand?

It is often used to make a background (sky) smooth. Look at this example Here.

Look at the sky in the first 2 pictures - those are raster effects. The 3rd picture shows the same game on a different system - turning off raster effects causes the sky appear like this.

Raster effects need very much speed. So they can slow down emulation very much. Some games run fullspeed with raster effects turned off but very slow with raster effects.

Greetings

Tobias

Thanx for the tip Pichon..Does this system also works on CPS2 roms?;)

fucht017 - for CPS2, when you run the converter it lists a bunch of files from the ROM - all of these can be deleted from the ROM once the cache is generated (but keep a backup copy)

Tanks Tunglashor but wich files can i remove?Do i remove files from the cache folder or the zipped rom?:(

Does matrimelee work for this emu?
just considering whether to give it a whizz on the wind

Remove them from the zipped rom - the list shows which files have been cached, which means the emulator will look in the cache for those files, not the rom.

By the way if you use the converter that comes with version 1.51 you should get a single cache file for each rom, not a folder.

I still use Cps2 v3.0,beceause Mslug3 for instance, goes a bit jerky with v1.51...but thanks Tunglashor;)

Mslug is a neo-geo game though... do you find any CPS2 games run slower with the new version? For me everything runs perfectly (same goes for neo-geo although I haven't tried Mslug 3)

hahaha you're right...I mean Street fighter Zero 3 goes a bit jerky with Cps2 v1.51...And yes Mslug3 runs great,strangely enough even smoother than Mslug2.In fact like you sad, all of the Neo Geo games runs realy great:D

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Originally Posted by fucht017

hahaha you're right...I mean Street fighter Zero 3 goes a bit jerky with Cps2 v1.51...And yes Mslug3 runs great,strangely enough even smoother than Mslug2.In fact like you sad, all of the Neo Geo games runs realy great:D

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With the cps2 1.30, evertying seems fine on that version. When i try 1.51 it makes quite a few games jerky.

Do you need to convert the roms again if you go from CPS2 1.30 to v1.51? ...this is trhe only thing i have not tried again but i was hoping the converter had not changed??

Well I asked this in the previous forum but got no response,Does any1 else have this problem I have with the x-men vs street fighter game in the new york stage,After the ground breaks and the characters fall my entire screen goes blocky but the game continues to play,Is there anyway to fix this?, Or could it be the rom itself?

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Originally Posted by Panini

With the cps2 1.30, evertying seems fine on that version. When i try 1.51 it makes quite a few games jerky.

Do you need to convert the roms again if you go from CPS2 1.30 to v1.51? ...this is the only thing i have not tried again but i was hoping the converter had not changed??

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Yes,you also get a upgrade version of the converter(ver8)..ver8 convert a lot faster tough..Only some games(Sfz3) are a bit jerky with ver 1.51.

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Originally Posted by Anima229

Well I asked this in the previous forum but got no response,Does any1 else have this problem I have with the x-men vs street fighter game in the new york stage,After the ground breaks and the characters fall my entire screen goes blocky but the game continues to play,Is there anyway to fix this?, Or could it be the rom itself?

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Go back to v1.30 then cause it plays perfect for me.

edit: I've just tried marvel vs streetfighter and the graphics crash half way though the game when you fall down to the second background, Turning raster on makes no difference. Im sure NJ will sort these problems out once he is made aware of any bugs.

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Originally Posted by fucht017

Yes,you also get a upgrade version of the converter(ver8)..ver8 convert a lot faster tough..Only some games(Sfz3) are a bit jerky with ver 1.51.

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Thanks for the info, again i think i'll stick with 1.30 though because all the street fighter game play very well.

how do you get Marvel VS Capcom to work on the cps2 emulator.. its still blacked out..

Oh and one final thing :P Can anyone teach me how to do Team Supers and Team Attacks on Marvel Vs Capcom,Marvel Vs Street Fighter...etc? (Easy mode)

Go to IGN game site.They got tons of faqs..Like moves list..how to do Team Supers etc..Good luck.

I know that...Im trying to do it on Easy Mode (Which I can't find a FAQ on except for a few moves)

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Originally Posted by blackwolf

how do you get Marvel VS Capcom to work on the cps2 emulator.. its still blacked out..

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You need the mvscar1 clone rom as well as the main mvsc one. If you have them both, you should be able to select one of them in the menu.

If you want you can combine them so that you don't have two entries for the game in the menu - follow these steps (backup your roms first though):

1. generate a cache for mvsc.zip
2. rename the cache to mvscar1.cache
3. copy the contents of mvsc.zip into mvscar1.zip (you can delete the files mvc.13m - 20m first to save space)
4. put mvscar1.zip in your roms folder and mvscar1.cache in your cache folder (you don't need mvsc.zip)

(this is assuming you're using the latest version - the cache file name will be different if you're using an older converter)

Hopefully I got all that right! I'm pretty sure that's what I did.

does this emu support adhoc mode?

nemoseiya - no, adhoc isn't supported but MikeDX is working on it...

By the way version 1.60 of CPS2PSP is now available! It sounds like the rom converter is the only thing that's changed, but I could be wrong. Also, it looks like the other emulators have also been updated but only source code is available.

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Originally Posted by tunglashor

nemoseiya - no, adhoc isn't supported but MikeDX is working on it...

By the way version 1.60 of CPS2PSP is now available! It sounds like the rom converter is the only thing that's changed, but I could be wrong. Also, it looks like the other emulators have also been updated but only source code is available.

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Hey thats great news! I knew that NJ would update his emu's again... the guys a legend! :)

Im at work now and my internet blocks NJ's site cause its not in english, hopefuly someone on this site will put this into the submit news section so I can see the changes.

Well, in the meantime I can give you google's attempt at translation..!

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CPS1PSP/CPS2PSP/MVSPSP modification point

1.60 Type of cash file of <CPS2PSP> non compression re-modification.
It seems that has the case where you feel that it became slow, but because perhaps as for cause the header of odd size is attached, the fact that it reaches the point where the data starts from the middle of the cluster of FAT seems like cause.
It renewed romcnv_cps2.exe to ver.9 as a counter-measure, in combination with position inside the file of the data of the non compressed cash file to 64KB, in order to arrange, it modified.
It is the number of hands, but please draw up non compressed cash for the second time.
(It does not read any which were drawn up with ver.8 optimizing the cord/code of) [rainsukuroru] drawing in version mismatch. Also the source code simplified processing.

Processing of the cord/code of <CPS1PSP> drawing processing was simplified same as CPS2PSP.

<MVSPSP> [rihuretsushiyureto] from 60Hz modification to the same as apparatus 59.1856Hz.
Perhaps in the past compared to it reached the point where same period of sound and the picture takes.
With the influence the indication of FPS 59 becomes the upper limit. In addition, it goes down to about 57fps periodically, but because it is error in regard to calculation, please make sure not to make the air.
Renewing the version of State Data attendant upon above-mentioned and modification. The time before there is no compatibility.

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That's from the change notes included with the source. The only new binary available is for CPS2 - hopefully someone will compile the others at some point.

whys samsho5 on the list of never supported roms for mvspsp cuz i have it and it wrks fine

btw can cps2 run mame roms?

CPS2 v1.60 kernel just works wonderful...All the Street fighters for instance moves so smooth...Thank you very much for you're dedication and hard work NJ:thumbup:

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Originally Posted by tunglashor

nemoseiya - no, adhoc isn't supported but MikeDX is working on it...

By the way version 1.60 of CPS2PSP is now available! It sounds like the rom converter is the only thing that's changed, but I could be wrong. Also, it looks like the other emulators have also been updated but only source code is available.

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That's true.

MikeDX, where are you? Can you compile those for us?
TIA! :)

Hey guys anyone had problems with metal slug 4, seems to crash on motorcycle part on the first stage. Tried 3 different roms with uncompressed cache and does the same thing. Anyone had the same problem?

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Originally Posted by student1

Hey guys anyone had problems with metal slug 4, seems to crash on motorcycle part on the first stage. Tried 3 different roms with uncompressed cache and does the same thing. Anyone had the same problem?

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Yes. :( Me and others.
Being testing all day with standard bios, uni-bios and misc settings and no luck.

All of a sudden I am getting "Could not allocate memory for sprite data"
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ERROR: File not found or CRC32 not correct "spr_usage (spr pen usage)"
Never got this before this release... Did I delete something?

i get the metal slug 4 crashing problem, and i allso have a weird metal slug 5 and samurai showdown 5 problem were the screen isnt displayed propperley..

Only parts of the screen are displaying while the main screen only displays in black.. very weird. anyone else having this problem?

can someone help me set this up ? i cant get it to work,it just says corrupt data :S can i get a step by step guide ? got no clue how you set this up,tried googles translator but it wont work...

Wait, why are you bumping a thread of a very old release of this emulator? Corrupt data? What version firmware do you have?

Hey sorry,i just came into this site and got that as a link for it,whats the newer release ? i have the latest firmware update , v 3.02

Is this Dark AleX's 3.02OEA firmware or the official Sony 3.02? If its the Sony version then I'll go easy on you but its not possible to run anything other than official Sony programmes on Firmware above 2.80. So sorry, but no homebrew for you :( .
...and before you ask there isn't a way to downgrade to 2.80 or below yet...... :(

The final release for this was 1.66 running all compatible CPS 1 & 2 games at full speed.