They indeed were asking to get owned *cough*fakegranturismomobile*cough*
*cough*Link-sag*cough* and other sh..*cough*
They indeed were asking to get owned *cough*fakegranturismomobile*cough*
*cough*Link-sag*cough* and other sh..*cough*
lol if you can't beat em join em. good stradagey on sonys part:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by mavsman4457
They probably do not like this, but this is not a huge impact because we're only a small portion of people who know about PSP homebrew, and even less probably know about DAX's custom firmware. However, Sony will probably try to stop this.
i think sony should use this as a lesson. they obviously fail hard at security. every new firmware update gets decrypted within days (don't think i'm knocking the talents of the psp coders either, i know they are skilled).
i think the only way sony could defeat the homebrew scene would be to employ all the talented coders like booster and dark alex
Im sorry to say, but what you said is totally way wrong out and far fetchedQuote:
Originally Posted by klisejo
see here, what sony did try to is make therye next gen console a freaking storage device for your psp games, judging that they didnt release a ps1 store for the pc, obviously everybody got mad. the idea seemed gold to sony, heck it was a smart thing to store stuff on youre console, and they though "our psp user's will obviously buy a ps3 for connectivity" unfortunately they were wrong about therye system. ANYWAY i believe that they will release a pc store soon anyway
now to get on to the homebrew part, do you even know what you said? do you even KNOW what the custom firmware DOES? oh yeah its lets you run ISO's "supposebly backupped"<----The Cause of this? HOMEBREW!! why the hell would they allow custom programs be written by people? because people LOVE to have free stuff man, soon as they let you develop stuff for your console, you are gonna be looking for the best, cheap, affordable way out
thats why theres damn modchips out
I have all the respect for sony about why therye trying to stop us, heck if i was the owner of sony, i wouldnt want some losers making money off free pirated games, and crap. To save my money the owner of sony would obviously not let homebrew, piracy onto therye systems. Sony Arent mean and big and evil therye trying to stop therye profits from going down and they go to waste
Its like that saying, the gangsters say " nothing personal just buisness"
Dont Get me wrong, i love homebrew lots and the new psx emulator is awsome, but really you cant justify homebrew, because the first thing thats EVER developed for it is, piracy
EVEN IF homebrew made the system better with calculators and stuff the piracy would still be there, i think its unfair to lots of people when therye things are stolen due to piracy
Stop trying to justify homebrew, because its number one function is piracy, and thats a fact
I agree with many about the ps3- psp was a total piece of bull**** but still i dont think they will keep it that way soon or later theryr gonna release an online store for the pc
Heck this compatibility comes in very handy for any ps3 owner
and sometimes i think sony is, messing up for a purpose
Albeit being a user of this firmware(happily) I hate to say it that I do believe Sony will take action over this.
This firmware trumps Sony's marketing strategy (to make money selling us PS1 games we already own). And given the fact that Lik-Sang was trumping Sony's markets in Europe, and they took SWIFT action, I believe the same will come for homebrew.
They have always hated homebrew, yet have had no real concrete evidence to put a stop to it (piracy doesn't count unless they have evidence proving that astute members in the scene are responsible for the lion share of it; but this, they have hard proof that their market is undermined, and being the capitalist nation that the US is, the courts are always interested in protecting the monetary assets of the huge corporations).
I just wonder how Sony will respond? Will file suit or will they do something less conventional? I mean, they do have the Rootkit under their belt; it really surprises me that Sony hasn't made such attempts on scene assassination in the past, considering that they put a rootkit on their CDs...
Sony may very well react to this.... Only time will tell.
But for the record, I believe most of us here that are a part of the scene would not even bother paying for PSX games on PSP. Us from UK would have had to wait until next march also due to the PS3 launch delay. It is more than expected that we would grab our own games and rip them for play on PSP.
As said earlier in this thread, we shouldn't be expected to have to pay for games again. With the amount of sh!t that sony has sent our way, we are entitled to play our own games on our own handhelds. F*ck sony... what gives them the right to tell anyone that they cant play games that we already paid for over 5 years ago? F*ck that.
This is release is the ultimate "shove it up your ass" to Sony, and I thank Dark_Alex for giving me the oppurtunity to do so.
Its just a huge shame that the Scene the only ones who have now got the power to stick it to sony, I do honestly feel for people who are gonna' pay their hard earned money to those sony f*ckers because they updated, have a TA-082 or just dont know about homebrew on PSP.
This is my first post ever on these boards - I'm usually much more of a lurker, but I needed to voice my opinion on this whole thing.
The firmware is great and was definitely inevitable. Someone was bound to hack Sony's emulator. It's undeniably awesome. However, I read a post a few pages back where someone said something to the effect of "forget Anonymous Coder" and that Dark_Alex beat him to the punch. That's just ridiculous. Dark_Alex did some great hacking, yeah, but he has nothing to do with programming the emulator - that credit goes to Sony. AC's efforts shouldn't be shot down, though. He's an amateur coder who, from what I've read, has done a great job building an emulator from scratch. Of course Sony's emulator is going to be incredible - it's their ****ing system.
Also, it pisses me off to see how many people post "**** Sony" this and "those Sony ****ers" that. Yeah, Sony makes a lot of retarded decisions, but all of this joy that you're getting from playing these games on this hacked firmware is on a Sony system. It's an amazing piece of hardware, whether or not Sony utilizes it correctly. I had a GP2X before I switched to a PSP and it's a world of difference. At least appreciate the hardware and give them a little credit where it's due.
Finally, yeah, I think Sony's definitely going to take some action against this. It's pretty much an attack on a whole chunk of their marketing strategy, even if it's a small chunk of PSP owners. It could turn nasty.
Edit: I guess I have 4 posts. Look at me go.
I didn't...Quote:
Originally Posted by yoshinatsu
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Conspiracy theories abound. My take on it is that they wont do anything other than what they're already doing. This doesn't change their 'marketing strategy' one bit. Guess we'll find out!
send their sony ninjas to kill Dark_Alex, he wouldn't have a chance to survive :(
j/k :D
that could be the funniest thing i have ever heard! [or read!]Quote:
Originally Posted by Anonymous D
As far as they're concerned 'its piracy'. We are getting games for free that other people have to pay for. Sure, we paid for them already, ages ago. But Sony will not stand for it this time; the PS1 emulator was their saving grace for the PSP.Quote:
Originally Posted by DKing
Why do I say that? Because the PSP, while having done 'well' hasn't done 'great'; in comparison to the DS who has sold 100,000 units a week, every week, since damn near last January.
The PS1 emulator is EASY buck in Sony's wallet. If a 1 million PSP owners buys 3 games at 5 bucks each, thats 15 millions dollars in their pockets for having done NOTHING. Wow they coded the emulator... Hell they probably didn't even do that, they probably ported over Bleem.
Point is, Sony will certainly react to this. They were probably more than happy to see Devhook .51 emulate 3.02; to them that meant more people able to download PS1 games.
Now OE-B means, 'we're gonna use our own PS1 games and you got nothing to say about it.'.
I can imagine Sony will be reacting to this in the coming weeks.
If SONY, hadnt decided to do the stupidest thing ever, and try to force people to buy a PS3, just so they can play PSOne games, then this wouldnt be happening. I would have gladly paid for PSOne games at their store, even though I have them on CD for my PSOne.Quote:
Originally Posted by F9zDark
SONY have brought this on themselves, making us non PS3 owners suffer.
Don't you guys think its a little coincidence that people have been able to hack firmware updates from sony, I think sony is letting the homebrew scene win. Think about it, sony is rich as hell, im sure they have coders with them 1000 times better than Dark_Alex (no offense to Dark_Alex, he is the greatest) Didn't they make the ps3? Anyway Sony is letting little holes in every firmware update, and left a secret ps1 emulator in hot shots golf 2. Sony could just make a firmware unhackable, im sure they got the power to do so, but they know that the only thing really selling their psp's is homebrew, I don't think that they think that their console is selling because of their crappy psp games. So to make the public think that sony is just stopping piracy would be a good idea for sony, so the law thinks, "o well sony does have a homebrew machine, but they are trying to stop it." So sony itself doesn't get in trouble with the law. They close link-sang, showing the public that they mean bussiness, but let devhook go on to emulate newer firmware versions, people said it themselves, sony is getting lazier with the security of their new updates. Sony did this on purpose, to let coders keep on working with their handheld. (think about it)
Don't you guys think its a little coincidence that people have been able to hack firmware updates from sony, I think sony is letting the homebrew scene win. Think about it, sony is rich as hell, im sure they have coders with them 1000 times better than Dark_Alex (no offense to Dark_Alex, he is the greatest) Didn't they make the ps3? Anyway Sony is letting little holes in every firmware update, and left a secret ps1 emulator in hot shots golf 2. Sony could just make a firmware unhackable, im sure they got the power to do so, but they know that the only thing really selling their psp's is homebrew, I don't think that they think that their console is selling because of their crappy psp games. So to make the public think that sony is just stopping piracy would be a good idea for sony, so the law thinks, "o well sony does have a homebrew machine, but they are trying to stop it." So sony itself doesn't get in trouble with the law. They close link-sang, showing the public that they mean bussiness, but let devhook go on to emulate newer firmware versions, people said it themselves, sony is getting lazier with the security of their new updates. Sony did this on purpose, to let coders keep on working with their handheld. (think about it)
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Originally Posted by F9zDark
If Sony saw the PSX emulator as the saving grace of the PSP the machine is in a lot more trouble that I thought.
People need to look at the bigger picture. 95% of the PSP owners out there (yes I made that statistic up for this post) can not even take advantage of the OE-B firmware. Now.. If the TA-082 was busted open and was able to run custom firmware like OE-B then I'd be more apt to agree with you.
sorry for double posting my goddamm internet browser froze...
Sony are money hungry tards like all of us, simple as and i dont blame them for doing what they did.
To be honest, I have felt this way for some time. When the PSP launched in Japan at firmware 1.0, it was completely devoid of the AES encryption technology that Sony used to keep the PSP secure. That seems like a huge oversight to me, considering the fact that its not like they DIDN'T have the encryption; all games, even from those days are encrypted with the key that Sony used.Quote:
Originally Posted by alucard001
However, to save face, Sony had to update the firmware to seal this leak (no developer would want to produce games for Sony if they would openly allow homemade code to run, without even so much as another program to control its usage).
However, it may have also been a total fluke...
Perhaps my wording was inaccurate. However, I believe that Sony felt the PSX emulator would intice some homebrewers to upgrade as well as make them more money, which is a win-win situation in their book.Quote:
Originally Posted by DKing
Lol, I´m pissing my pants laughing at Sony. They deserve this. what about all of us in Europe who couldn´t play psx games even if you had fw 3.+.
I was thinking the games were reformated. It seem most games are working. they already had their full speed emu and they just throw out a handful of games? they should have thrown out a few dozen by now.
I mean how much trouble is it to change the pic and background icon?
very arrogant on there part.
I don´t think they counted on Dark Alex´s genius.
So, hey, thanks sony for some good hardware and a great emu.
THANK YOU Dark Alex for the best fw on the psp.
But it won't matter much would it? We can use our own games now:)Quote:
Originally Posted by FrostyTheSnowman
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Originally Posted by alucard001
[SARCASM]
Give this man a cookie, he figured it out.
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I'm sure Sony has maybe 5 guys that work on firmware... I'm also sure Sony has no clue about any of this, nor do they really care. 1500 people (out of HOW many millions sold?) "hack" their psp to play old playstation games that they bought 10 years ago. And Sony cares? EVERY PIECE OF SOFTWARE EVER WRITTEN IS HACKABLE. Keep that in mind next time you think Sony could make... no, could even even think about making an "unhackable" firmware. Sony didn't intentionally leave holes in the firmwares, they just happened. If Sony "wanted" us to run homebrew, they wouldn't have started trying to patch all the holes in the first place.
Homebrew is NOT all that is selling PSPs. Trust me. I know 3 people that got PSPs as Christmas gifts WITH GAMES! Imagine that! GOOD games too! Do they care about homebrew? Nope. Do they want to run psx games on their psp? Yep. Are they going to go buy a PS3 to download the games? Nope. Are they going to wait till the PSX games are easier to get? You betcha.
I laugh.
Most of my mates with psp's have got no idea what homebrew,iso,emulators are and are happy to buy $80+ games. But the ones who do know like what I got but dont want to risk their expencive toys. So I dont think the problem is as big as made out.
Dark_AleX is King.
lol i love that someone thinks that its a conspiracy.
I agree with the 5 people working on the firmware thing, but sony is clearly aware about hacks to their firmware.
its not a big mystery to find this site or qj.
but lololol at the conspiracy man
If you google "PSP Emulation News" this is the first site that comes up, so I strongly doubt Sony is in the dark about their firmware being hacked. And as to sony retaliating, I will say one thing, I've noticed a lot more leechers and seeders on torrent sites since this firmware was released... something Sony might get pissed about.
I really don't think it is going to cause sony too many problems. I mean how many of the psps bought from the beginning to now are capapble of installing the firmware needed? between bricks, broken psps, people who updated and the new motherboards, what is the percentage of consoles still used that can do this. I mean, alot of people who come to this site have the option, but this sight sort of attracts those people. so really, what is it going to hurt sony? they just figure eventually all the first gen psp's will have died and they won't have to worry about it. [on that note, i'm taking real good care of my 1.5 [: ] {oh and hears to hoping I can get the advantages of the new custom firmware without having to flash my bios}
lol im just fu!@#$ing with you guys, i don't know what's going on in sony's mind, nor do I care, look we got a ps1 emulator!!! oh final fantasy... (starts playing psp)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramza042
lol
i have not been able to access dcemu since yesterday lunch! thought sony had killed it:) glad to still be here!
heh, apparently there was a downtime since yesterday afternoon. :/
sony's going to lose a lot of money out of this new firmware i'm sure they're going to react with something big creating a new firmware, try to take down the hacking community or release an new motherboard which may may prevent homebrew for a while
there was a donwtime around 6pm to whenever
Well with the release of the TA-082 downgrader I guess the percentage of people able to roll their own PSX games got a bit larger... I still don't think there is a whole lot Sony will do.