A letter to sony regaurding UMD's

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August 1st, 2005, 21:46
slick

i think it will be on the market in do time, i remember a while back when the first cd-rw came out with 2x speed :), it was like 200$ at best buy, and people before that were also saying it will cause this kind of problems, that kind and stuff, but look at the burners now cd-rw, dvd-r's, lightscribe dvd-rw dual layerd( got one, theyre' nice) and all kinds of others.

again i think it will be release but the price for the umd's will be equal to buying a umd movie in store.
August 2nd, 2005, 01:15
RedKing14CA

Sony isnt THAT dumb

:D

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Originally Posted by Omoikane

well i think we actually have 2gig memory sticks now(or in the very near future). but for sony to release a UMD burner would be like saying "here are the keys to my car, please just steal it" UMDs have only one purpose -storing video games for the psp- although i think it would be fun to store backups of my stuff, and all of my roms on a umd and keep my memory stick clean. but honestly people would just rip/download, burn, play, give sony the bird.
im not saying that someone wont come up with a umd burner, but sony would fight it.

wow, you'd think that if sony made a UMD burner they would make you unable to burn games... wow, concept! :rolleyes:

the only reason i want a umd burner is because a 2gig memory stick is about 300$ (they exist, go to ebay) and i know a umd burner/atleast 5 blank umd's would be cheaper than 300$, and it would be about 4 gigs!

the reason i want them is for audio/video! not pirating games n crap! imagine all the music

and i think slick is kind of right (note that you cant burn games, only old ones like starcraft, no new games can be burned onto cd's)
August 2nd, 2005, 01:20
Kaiser

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Originally Posted by RedKing14CA

and i think slick is kind of right (note that you cant burn games, only old ones like starcraft, no new games can be burned onto cd's)

Um no, you can burn any game if you know what your doing... Its just those older ones were as simple as clicking a button. My friend has Sims 2 burned and it works fine.

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Originally Posted by slick

again i think it will be release but the price for the umd's will be equal to buying a umd movie in store.

I extremely doubt that.
August 2nd, 2005, 01:37
RedKing14CA

ello world

how do you burn those games then? :confused:
August 2nd, 2005, 08:09
*o*

it would be really funny if they went and designed a pspp burner in response o this letter
August 2nd, 2005, 08:38
RedKing14CA

funny? huh? i still havent sent it, i told all you ppl i need help, not arguments, lol...

(like my new sig.?)
August 2nd, 2005, 08:58
PSP_Newbie

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Originally Posted by RedKing14CA

how do you burn those games then? :confused:

the old games were as simply as copying and pasting, dragging and dropping. nowadays, u need software that can overcome the cd copy protection. personally, i use Alcohol 120%, its capable of not only copying most games, but it can actually burn the image of the cd to the hard drive and play it off a virtual drive. plus it can handle nearly any cd copy protection on the market. there are also a bunch of other software that can do that, even free ones, but this one is one of the best i think. i got all my games burned to my hard drive and played at 200X, most of which i can then just burn to a cd
August 2nd, 2005, 12:51
Omoikane

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Originally Posted by RedKing14CA

:D

wow, you'd think that if sony made a UMD burner they would make you unable to burn games... wow, concept! :rolleyes:

i didnt say that. infact i was saying it would be stupid for them to release one because people WOULD burn the games.
August 2nd, 2005, 19:48
slick

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Originally Posted by Kaiser

Um no, you can burn any game if you know what your doing... Its just those older ones were as simple as clicking a button. My friend has Sims 2 burned and it works fine.

I extremely doubt that.

no true at all, most of the games have some kind of protection on them, and u need to be skilled in removing them, which most groups do when they release the iso's.

try using ur clonecd or alcohom120% and see what happens to the new games.:)

as for price i think it will be at first, same way as the lightscribe cd's and dvd's are right now :)
August 2nd, 2005, 20:18
Kaiser

Enough talk on how to pirate games. Simply put no amount of protection can stop people if they have a burner. There is always and I repeat ALWAYS ways around it. The newest way to fight piracy is to use things like Valve's Steam service. however I hear that it usually burns more honest customers then the pirates (basicly its a pain in the ass).

Sony will probably not release a UMD burner. Though it may open the format up to become more popular it would do more harm then good. i guess we should just wait and see. try writing a letter for sure I think many of us should just be sure to make it formal and well written.

By the way RedKing14CA, I do like your new sig. :)
August 4th, 2005, 02:05
aseddon130

i hope no UMD burner does come out, all they need to do is lower the price of PSP games to match those of a NDS game (£30 or so) and lower UMD Movies to £10 or so, then they have surefire success under their belt ... give it a few months and this is exactly what will happen i reckon ... well, i hope ... :D
August 5th, 2005, 00:11
RedKing14CA

ass... eddon

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Originally Posted by aseddon130

i hope no UMD burner does come out, all they need to do is lower the price of PSP games to match those of a NDS game (£30 or so) and lower UMD Movies to £10 or so, then they have surefire success under their belt ... give it a few months and this is exactly what will happen i reckon ... well, i hope ... :D

wow, i loathe your existence...

some one should plucketh thy eye from thy pitiful head, and make use of it as a rectum cleaner! mortal!

(not really ;) )

but seriously, if £ means GPB, then they already are that price in america!

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Originally Posted by Kaiser

Enough talk on how to pirate games. Simply put no amount of protection can stop people if they have a burner. There is always and I repeat ALWAYS ways around it. The newest way to fight piracy is to use things like Valve's Steam service. however I hear that it usually burns more honest customers then the pirates (basicly its a pain in the ass).

Sony will probably not release a UMD burner. Though it may open the format up to become more popular it would do more harm then good. i guess we should just wait and see. try writing a letter for sure I think many of us should just be sure to make it formal and well written.

By the way RedKing14CA, I do like your new sig. :)

thx, i need to make it more like 2 seconds between each pic switch, but ya know...

and, um, yeah, the thing is, any UMD COPYING device would be illegal, cuz i mean, what use would you have fore copying a UMD to another UMD? cuz the only ones made 'sides copied ones (theoretically) are movies/games, so, uh, any of that kind of burner would be illedal, but what im talking about, is not to burn a UMD to another UMD, im talkn DATA FROM YOUR COMPUTER to a UMD..... and i posted this for an alliance, not some "WHAT IF" argument!
August 7th, 2005, 08:26
RedKing14CA

so.... any help with the letter, anyone going to send it, or revise oit, or suggest anything?
August 7th, 2005, 10:40
leggy

UMD's will never replace dvd's or cd's - no chance, no way, never!
August 7th, 2005, 11:03
RedKing14CA

wow, thx for the help leggy...
August 7th, 2005, 17:32
drEDN4wt

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any UMD COPYING device would be illegal

Gunz don't kill people, Rapperz do!
August 10th, 2005, 07:03
RedKing14CA

any umd copying device would be illegal? who said that??? and no, its "guns dont kill people, kids that play violent video games do!"
August 22nd, 2005, 08:20
RedKing14CA

well is anyone going to do anything? liek send this> or help me revise it? or anything!?!??
August 22nd, 2005, 19:54
F34R

RedKing,

I am going to give you some really good advice. Trash the letter. Dont waste your time. If you decide to actually send it here are a few helpful tips for you:

1. Open your English book (grammer book), and read the chapter that discusses punctuation.

2. Use that same book and read the chapter that discusses sentence and paragraph structure.

For some further clarification on the UMD format. UMD movies are the same resolution as a DVD (780 x 420).
August 23rd, 2005, 14:02
RedKing14CA

ummm.... thank you?
August 24th, 2005, 00:50
bobcobb

You are quite foolish young one. If you haven't gotten the idea yet from the rest of this thread, a UMD burner will simply create a bigger black market for games. That is bad for Sony.. If you are bitching about the fact that the NDS has cheaper memory, deal with it. The PSP is better in every other aspect, who cares if Sony charges us twice for some damn memory stick. Oh well, I can play GTA:LS(soon) on my PSP, to hell with the DS. And to hell with the UMD burner! TO HELL!!!
August 24th, 2005, 01:05
Cap'n 1time

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Originally Posted by bobcobb

You are quite foolish young one. If you haven't gotten the idea yet from the rest of this thread, a UMD burner will simply create a bigger black market for games. That is bad for Sony.. If you are bitching about the fact that the NDS has cheaper memory, deal with it. The PSP is better in every other aspect, who cares if Sony charges us twice for some damn memory stick. Oh well, I can play GTA:LS(soon) on my PSP, to hell with the DS. And to hell with the UMD burner! TO HELL!!!

you are quite foolish to revive an old topic. please.. just let this trash die.
August 24th, 2005, 01:20
bobcobb

/me locks thread
August 28th, 2005, 07:47
RedKing14CA

??? you guys are very very mean...

and i dont get whats up with you people... i mean dude, is everyone a liberal?
August 29th, 2005, 06:02
Kaiser

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Originally Posted by RedKing14CA

is everyone a liberal?

Your on the internet dude. <-----------Self-explanatory

Corporations don't take online letters and petitions seriously. Beleive me I've tried getting Resident Evil 1.5 from Capcom for 6 years.
August 30th, 2005, 02:05
RedKing14CA

lol, ok... lol... im on the internet...
August 30th, 2005, 03:13
WSOUNitePirate895

I hope UMD Burners do come out, at least then I dont have to worry about Unrelaible Memory Sticks, how many of you bought a $100-299 Memory Stick only for it to become corupt.....

We should be able to burn on to UMD, and Save to Memory sticks both are essential, Unfortanetly we cant help it if someone makes Pirated games,too late since they are out and launchable on Memory Cards, It makes no difference to get a UMD burner manufacturred
August 30th, 2005, 22:53
Cap'n 1time

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Originally Posted by WSOUNitePirate895

I hope UMD Burners do come out, at least then I dont have to worry about Unrelaible Memory Sticks, how many of you bought a $100-299 Memory Stick only for it to become corupt.....

We should be able to burn on to UMD, and Save to Memory sticks both are essential, Unfortanetly we cant help it if someone makes Pirated games,too late since they are out and launchable on Memory Cards, It makes no difference to get a UMD burner manufacturred

im not even going to try to explain this one... just let this topic die PLEASE!
August 31st, 2005, 00:38
RedKing14CA

WSOUNitePirate895 had it how i was thinkin pretty much... thx dude!

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