Such stupid reasoning.
Tell me, JKKDARK...is your PSP modded? I mean, since you're all high-falutin' and all...it seems kind of strange how you're posting in this forum if you don't have an illegally modded PSP...
Such stupid reasoning.
Tell me, JKKDARK...is your PSP modded? I mean, since you're all high-falutin' and all...it seems kind of strange how you're posting in this forum if you don't have an illegally modded PSP...
Prob PS1 in my experience BUT not really been into hb scene till PSP. SFami disc sys was cool too but i sold mine :(
Heh backread post after writing this. Who cares if obsolete sysems are hacked to bits? you care that i copy betamax to dvd? lol
Sega Consoles were no doubt some of the best homebrew consoles, each (i dont know about Master System) having at least one emulator. Genesis had a NES Emulator developed by Yuji Naka, Saturn had a SNES Emulator, and Dreamcast emulated PS1, N64, and Saturn!
Also, Xbox has a GREAT selection of Emulators and Apps.
So, I'd say that Xbox is the best followed by Dreamcast because DC doesnt even need mods
booradley1212: Modding a PSP for your own use is not illegal, even under the god-forsaken DMCA (you just cant share that info, technically).
It's your hardware, you own it, you can do as you like with it. Sony is free to void your warranty and release updates that wont work on the hacked PSP, but that's about it.
The reason Xbox homebrew is illegal is that it is all built with the official Microsoft SDK (Software Development Kit). The people writing the homebrew and compiling it against that SDK have no legal right to use that development kit so microsoft could sue them if the released compiled binaries.
PSP and DC homebrew are compiled against free, community made SDKs so the compiled binaries can be shared freely.
I don't really know about the custom firmwares, It's sony's code but the custom firmware modifies the sony files when its installed rather than including the modified sony files in the download itself.
That probably makes it fine to distribute, but questionably legal to use.
*shrug* I'm no lawyer.
Personally I dont have any moral objections to using the official SDK and the only real legal ramification is that the files are harder (but still pretty easy) to find.
Just because most of the xbox homebrew is illegal doesn't make it a bad homebrew console!
I have a dreamcast and love what it can do both with backups and homebrew/ emulators but having extra memory and a hard drive would just be fantastic.
As much as i do hate to say it the xbox probably for those reasons is the best bet for homebrew.
paul
OK, so mabye the Dreamcast's homebrew is made with a legal programming code, but say I wanted to get GenesisPlusDC (great emulator by the way), I would have to download ROMS which (if you dont own what you have), is illegal, making the entire thing illegal.
Sure there's some homebrew games that are great on DC, but a console without homebrew emulators seems a lot more dull to me. So, it doesnt matter to me whether the emulator I downloaded was made with C or SDK.
EDIT: Dreamcast was my homebrew console until it broke. Once I got a modded Xbox, I saw a BIG DIFFERENCE. XBMC and Surreal64 are the only words I have to say.
yeah, the xbox is the best right now i think.
i have an 160GB hdd in mine, with *COUGH*62 "backup" games*COUGH*.
but i don't play them very often.. i usually play homebrew games and emulators.
Surreal 64 is the best!
the best homebrew game that i think is "super mario war"
and linux is cool to have on it too, along with Windows 98, anyone tried that?
it's still pretty fun to mess around with the xbox though.. until i buy a modchip for my wii or a softmod for it comes out..
EDIT: XBMC has many python scripts too, like youtube and msn scripts.
it also have a webbrowser that is pretty useful sometimes..
I'd say either the PSP or the Xbox.
Dreamcast is okay, yes you can put it on Dreamcast without modifications, but I haven't found much homebrew that's that great.
Xbox Media Center is the shit. Built in support for Xlink Kai is good, but if you use Xbox live, the need for it isn't big.
xlink kai is pretty good if you have a modded xbox and want to play online..
it's too bad there's only players on halo 1 and 2..
XBMC and Surreal64 are the only words I have to say.
Word.
Xlink Kai
Let's get a Halo 2 game going and settle thing DC vs Xbox thing once and for all! :thumbup: Who's in???
What are you looking to play, anders?
hehe the xbox would pwn the dc easily..
:D
EDIT: i usually play timesplitters future perfect..
but no one is ever playing it on xlink so i bought a wii cus it's free online play and there's different feeling with the wiimote..
i think the wii have more fun games than the 360, and i wanted to play super mario galaxy :D, thats why i bought the wii.
i'm waiting for a good d2c modchip that can be updated and one that is a lot less solderpoints (29 solderpoints is pretty much, i think) or hopefully a softmod will come out sometime.
Yes, but I hope you can understand what bah said. He's totally right.Quote:
Originally Posted by booradley1212
Name something that the Dreamcast has that the Xbox doesn't.
legal homebrew developmentQuote:
Originally Posted by ExcruciationX
Saturn emulation
homebrew servers
homebrew commercial games
homebrew stuff without modchip
Illegality is irrelevant to how good the homebrew actually is. I actually find homebrew on the Xbox easier then Dreamcast homebrew (except when the Dreamcast download section is up).
Is the Sega Saturn emulation fullspeed?
Xbox has tunneling software, and you can use the Killtrocity map pack.
You can softmod an xbox in ten minutes, tops. You don't need a mod chip (although for the best functionality, you do).
I'm with yah on the commercial games. Almost every game made for the Dreamcast was good, while the Xbox had only a few good games.
tunneling software.. you can do it also for PS2 and GC. But since it's for LAN games, they don't work exactly as real online games.
If something is illegal or legal, it's very important. Try making a topic asking for help about PCSXBOX and the topic will be closed soon.
Don't support illegal stuff if you don't want to see your site being taken down.
Sega Saturn emulation on Dreamcast is not even with playable speed at the moment (less than 10 FPS). But at least BlueCrab is still working on it, and we shouldn't forget it's not an easy job.
And about homebrew commercial games, I was talking about the games developed and published by independent companies (for Dreamcast: redspotgames, Goat Store Publishing, etc).
It can be possible on the Dreamcast because it's legal, and you can't do it on the Xbox.
JKKDARK I'm not going to let you guys drag this convo down. The q was what's the best emulation console- it's XBOX hands down. All I was trying to say is ppl who still use DC should try it. Illegal, legal...whatever. We're all still using them to do "illegal" things...the point is irrelevant (to me.) I wouldn't play an emulation system without onboard memory ever again...I hated waiting and playing games from disks!
ANDERS I don't have timesplitters...if we both have a game I'd love to play...anyone interested in trying the coop in Doom 3?
And EX is right- you can mod an xbox without even opening the case, silly.
Dont get me wrong, I love DC. But, abiding by the law and a Saturn Emulator that runs at 10 FPS automatically makes Dreamcast homebrew better?Quote:
Originally Posted by JKKDARK
WAIT!!! What if you get the wrong Saturn BIOS? That's like stealing a Sega Saturn!!
But you're right that DC has a great variety of homebrew. Dreamcast homebrew ranks among the top 3.
Yeah, I have a soft spot for my Dreamcast as well.
I take it as a offense, and I know many people can say the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by booradley1212
Running an emulator with the bios dumped from your own system and using the original discs or images dumped from your own cartridges/discs is NOT illegal. And that's what I do, since I always support legal emulation.
Since you are a member here on the DCEmu community, you should know we don't allow illegal stuff. That's why you can't discuss about any issue with your Xbox homebrew stuff.
Please read my first reply to ExcruciationX on this thread, you should notice I didn't say only Saturn emulation..Quote:
Originally Posted by Eviltaco64
Please, maybe you do rip your own games and BIOSes, but honestly, ripping tools are scarce and expensive. You'd be better off playing the original copy of the game you own or just downloading a game that the company isnt making ANY money from anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by JKKDARK
Dreamcast has a great selection of emulators (NesterDC SE, GenesisPlus, SNES Station, Bleemcast, etc.). But Xbox has Nintendo 64, Fullspeed SNES emulation, Sega CD, Sega 32X, CPS2, CPS3, More Arcade support, and so forth, and so on.
Yes, I understand and I'm sure there are people who use emulators illegally. I just didn't like booradley1212's comment saying "We're all still using them to do "illegal" things", because that's not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eviltaco64
As DCEmu is a legal emulation site, I think we shouldn't discuss illegal stuff, and then we will make a bigger community.
Of course, Xbox is better than Dreamcast illegally, but we should agree that Dreamcast is the best homebrew console legally.
Well, technically, yes, but that doesnt make it better :D.Quote:
Originally Posted by JKKDARK
Yup, that's what I've been saying for a while now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eviltaco64
Also, JKKDARK, if you're using an emulator with ROM's you downloaded, then it's illegal. Legal ROM's are boring and defeat the purpose of downloading homebrew in the first place.
The real and original point of using emulators is running your other systems on one system.Quote:
Originally Posted by ExcruciationX
Meh. He's just being political...you have a site to protect, we get you.
The PSP, hands down. It is portable and has more homebrew capability than the Dreamcast. The Dreamcast is a good choice for a home console though because it can emulate out of the box.
This is for the Greatest Homebrew Console.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceman^2
There is another one for handhelds.
Ps2!!
Dreamcast, followed closely by the PS2 which is currently my homebrew console.
I would say a PSP, but other then that, I dont know :( ......
Reading some of the comments, it sounds like the DC would be the best IMO
Well, to avoid bias, this topic should be renamed to ''Greatest legal hombrew console'' Then, it would be right to praise DC as the greatest platform. As for now, looking back from 128bit era, there isn't any other system that carry that much functionality, support and potential.
PSP is a handheld, not console ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ubersk8kid
Well, if you are talking about "legal" emulators, then Gamecube technically wins for having a fullspeed SNES/MD(Genesis)/NES Emulator.Quote:
Originally Posted by Balthasar00
All DC SNES emulators are extremely slow (even after turning off mode 7 and switching the sound to Mono), GenesisPlusDC plays most Genesis games fullspeed, but sound emulation isnt accurate. NesterDC, however, is absolutely perfect in my opinion.
But when it comes to homebrew GAMES, the Dreamcast takes the cup.
Thats good to hear. I'll have to reconsider GC. As for storage convenience, looks like both are in the same league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eviltaco64
Of course, Dreamcast is much easier to get homebrew running on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Balthasar00
Gamecube is one of the hardest.
Get SD Media Launcher.
Get GCOS.
Burn the .GCM to a Mini DVD-R (after making sure it is EXACTLY 1.35 GB).
Adjust the laser.
And presto! Smash Bros Melee running on a Gamecube in 5 Extremely easy steps!
Dreamcast cuz I have no Xbox. lol Still havent figured out how my Dreamcast works though cuz Im currently occupied w/ my DS and Wii. I got the Dreamcast from a raffle and hardly played it cuz i got no games and i had only one controller.
The question should've been "What's the greatest in your opinion"
I'd say the xbox because of Xbmc