R4 Team Plans to Brick Your Nintendo DS

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July 4th, 2008, 14:08
rememberthe8bit

Flashme FTW. I installed in all of my DSes just in case something silly like this happens.

I imagine that the only thing that they're going to fix in the next release is Diagasso Band Brothers DX, which can already be played by using a firmware hack program by Yasu, and manually creating an 8MB save file. Yay for the community.

I also wonder how the R4 team will detect fakes. The M3 anti-fake functions of their firmware made it so I couldn't quickly reboot my DS, and if the R4 team uses an unreliable method, legitimate users could get roasty DSes.

Wow this post is getting long, but in later revision DSes, the SL1 jumer controls more of the firmware, so on those, it may not totally brick the unit, though I don't think I'd solely rely on that.

Summary of the post: SL1 will save your butt.

EDIT:

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Originally Posted by BastarB

You're wrong!:p According to this, it's possible:

http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=82202

This R4 clone didn't got any award sinced it bricked peoples DS

No, that's due to shoddy electronics that would blow an internal fuse, spinal was right.
July 4th, 2008, 14:55
Taris

While i've been a loyal R4 fan since joining the homebrew scene, this latest move is just another reason in a mounting avalanche of reasons to switch to a new card. If this turns out to be true, it's time to get myself an R6.
July 4th, 2008, 16:23
m-p{3}

Wow, if this is true, I'm dumping my R4 and I'm switching of adapter. Screw this kind of practice.

I bought an R4 because of it's reputation, but I might probably drop it for the same reason.
July 4th, 2008, 20:32
limming

I hope my R4 wasn't a fake, but I doubt it is. Actually, letting my R4 brick my DS will be a great excuse to buy a new one! I've had my DS phat since the Christmas after launch...

I honestly don't care that the R4 team is doing this. If it was me, I'd probably write I code to brick the fake card instead.
July 4th, 2008, 22:05
nightblade36

Alright, I've said it before and I'll say it again: This is ONE person's (Brakken from "Tehskeens") interpretation of a poor translation done by the R4 team. For all we know, Brakken might just have another flashcard and is being one of those asses that likes to make other cards sound or look bad.

I highly doubt they'll actually do what the news source is thinking. Just read the ACTUAL quote by itself.

Quote:

1. After 15 September, Team R4 will do something for the fake card, original program(firmware) with Fake R4 may damage your DS machine (brick), original R4 will have no problem with this program.

2. Make sure you have buy a original R4 (see photo below), if you brick your DS with fake R4, please go ask the selling shop and Team R4 will not admitted this liability.

Keep in mind that these two statements are seperate:
"After 15 September, Team R4 will do something for the fake card..."
What is this 'something'? I don't know, but I highly doubt it's intentionally trying to brick machines that use the fake R4s.

AND

"...original program(firmware) with Fake R4 may damage your DS machine (brick)..."
Note that they say MAY and not WILL, and that brick is in parenthesis, as in it being a prospective outcome rather than one set in stone.

To me, this sounds more like a warning than a threat, and I'm taking it that way. Regardless, twisting words around to make the bad translation sound like a threat is pretty recockulous. I've checked some pictures and it would seem I have an official R4. Really, even if they did start bricking some DSes, then the news would spread way too fast to do too much damage.
July 4th, 2008, 22:31
juiceface

glad I have a dsone
July 5th, 2008, 05:59
anteopimp

I have a simply... that's like Canada to America (R4)... what happens to us?
July 5th, 2008, 19:42
agenericperson

I'm glad I ditched my R4 for a better card. First the spring broke, then it fell apart.

I can't believe they'd brick the DS though. That's just asking for trouble.
July 6th, 2008, 09:15
sarkwalvein

Quote:

Originally Posted by nightblade36

Alright, I've said it before and I'll say it again: This is ONE person's (Brakken from "Tehskeens") interpretation of a poor translation done by the R4 team. For all we know, Brakken might just have another flashcard and is being one of those asses that likes to make other cards sound or look bad.

I highly doubt they'll actually do what the news source is thinking. Just read the ACTUAL quote by itself.

Keep in mind that these two statements are seperate:
"After 15 September, Team R4 will do something for the fake card..."
What is this 'something'? I don't know, but I highly doubt it's intentionally trying to brick machines that use the fake R4s.

AND

"...original program(firmware) with Fake R4 may damage your DS machine (brick)..."
Note that they say MAY and not WILL, and that brick is in parenthesis, as in it being a prospective outcome rather than one set in stone.

To me, this sounds more like a warning than a threat, and I'm taking it that way. Regardless, twisting words around to make the bad translation sound like a threat is pretty recockulous. I've checked some pictures and it would seem I have an official R4. Really, even if they did start bricking some DSes, then the news would spread way too fast to do too much damage.

I think this is a bad interpretation based in a crappy google translate... But don't take it on Brakken, he is very serious in his posts, but just this time I think he is not right...

About the bricking, I will quote myself from the tehskeen forums:

"I believe the original text may say something like that if you use a new firmware and a fake card your ds may brick, because they are doing something that pushes the hardware to the limit, and they've seen this happening before (like the n5 and r4 clones bricking NDS in the past, without any weird firmware from R4), so they are saying they are not responsible if that happens.... Well, I think that because I want to hope that is the case, but I can't read chinese, so it's just my opinion."

"I think they can't write the BIOS if you don't modify your DS internally (I think nintendo secured all the firmware of new consoles after that incident... I've readen something like that here: http://www.ndshb.com/modules.php?nam...pid=40&page=10)... I think they are talking about that case when the R4 clones and the N5 (that is an R4 clone) electrically brick your NDS... I don't know if they short circuit it or drain to much current, but I've heard about that happenning in the past, look here: http://www.ds-scene.net/?s=viewtopic&id=1798 "
July 7th, 2008, 02:58
imadosser

I say boycott the company incl any other products they have, for being the fash!

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