you losers need to get a freaking life seriously,gray is definitely right about you guys this place is for GAMES PERIOD
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you losers need to get a freaking life seriously,gray is definitely right about you guys this place is for GAMES PERIOD
... misread.
Yeah this is not the perfect place to discuss such topics, agreed.
Later,
TSR
Maybe this isnt the perfect place to speak about such things.Quote:
Originally Posted by emuking
But I believe that Dcemu is a nice place.
I like it here. These forums have become part of my main online activity.
There like my online home away from home.
And I respect these forums very very much.
But when one crosses a taboo line. And makes a statement
I have to speak out and let my opinion be heard.
Because when somthing I believe in is taken lightly or scoffed at,
And I dont stick up for my beliefe, Then people may be inclined to believe tha I support the wrong ideas.
standing up for what one believes in. Is just what people with strong beliefes are motivated to do. With that out of the way. On to what I was saying
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Haveing a life would indicate that you would realize that (life) is more then just video games:rolleyes:
And aperently some people dont realize that these forums are open for the exchange and expression of opinion and ideas, and not every word one types must be in the form of praise to videogames.
Saying get a life talk about video games is like saying,
Stop being a lazy bum and quit your job :cool:
Thats an oxymoron.
Because as far as I know I have broken no rules in these forums.
And if it upsets people that I express my opinions, when the opertunity arises. I can only say DEAL WITH IT! you will run into a lot who have those (opinions) and express them freely. Every day for the rest of your life.
The only advice I can give you is Deal with the fact that not everyon thinks like you, acts like you, talks like you, and just as much as you dont care about somone else opinion. Others dont care about yours.
And as long as you are being negitive and insulting about things. Yhey never will.
Face it. WELCOME TO RELITY! THE PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN BE THERESELVES IN SPITE OF YOU :p :p :p :p
haha this HOLY PSP stuff reminds me of a south park episode... haha...:D
Personally, I don't think bashing religion is warranted here. Mainstream religion has caused alot of problems in history, I'll give you that, but everyone has a right to believe or not-believe if they so choose.
Whether or not God really exists doesn't matter; science has proven that belief in something, something that motivates one's daily life, makes them an overall better and healthier person.
Certainly that doesn't excuse the holy wars, crusades and countless inhumane tortures and killings committed in the name of religion. But we can't hardly blame religion for that, it is the human beings who committed those acts, acts that all humans are capable of, given the right circumstances.
And about love being a delusion... I believe you are only saying that because you lack the capacity to love, and such is evident from your totally close minded quips that are devoid of any such explanation as to why you believe what you believe. I'd warrant that you truly don't believe half of what you say, but it exists on the surface and is the first thing on your mind when someone brings up such a topic.
Love is due to chemical responses in the brain that drive human beings to become attached to one another. Sure, its all about the chemicals, every aspect of our existence is due to chemicals doing what they are supposed to do.
But that doesn't lessen love or happiness or sadness. It doesn't bring down their importance to humans as a species because they are chemical responses. In fact, it raises them higher, because now we know that there is biological basis for these things and they are not just placebo responses.
Yeah i hate christians, muslims, all religions, atheism, all that jazz. etc. etc.
only for 2.0 + ??? :(
sounds good, but then again with psp's having lots of storage and mp3 support, you might aswell download a cool audio bible.
The rusian and chinese audio bibles are great! :D
i have enjoyed reading all these posts as it shows what a touchy subject
religion can be
religions stem from individuals that coerce others to believe in the same manner as themselves.
faith on the other hand is ones own decision. wether it be in evolution, reincarnation, creation, nothingness, or whatever
having the choice to download the bibile or not gives individuals the
chance to make up their own decision or use it conjunction with any other resource to further a quest for knowlege or understanding of mankind in general.
Until all people are allowed to think freely and this definately includes education (as it not ones intelligence attacked first in discussions such as this) there will be discontent amongst us.
I also find the more i pinpoint my own views the narrower my thoughts become.
This reminds me off that PSP from South Park, that Holy PSP. By the way, I thought Kenny was poor...where did he get a PSP?
well the way i see it. they were bashing christianity, not any of you. they just said there opinion on christinaty, no one called any of you out by name. if a person belives in the book ok, if you dont ok, big effin deal. i think they should say anything thing they belive about the book, because with out talk about it you can not make an informed opinion on such a serious matter. so i belive this is the perfect place for it. i personaly dont belive in the book. manny reasons. your all like zombies..like sheep(just as the bible calls all of you). it contradicts it self from book to book. the first war was over religon. manny wars since have been over religous differences. there has been more blood spilled in the name of god than any other religon in the human history. spanish inquisition, hitler, As soon as Christianity was legal (315), more and more pagan temples were destroyed by Christian mob. Pagan priests were killed.
Between 315 and 6th century thousands of pagan believers were slain.
Examples of destroyed Temples: the Sanctuary of Aesculap in Aegaea, the Temple of Aphrodite in Golgatha, Aphaka in Lebanon, the Heliopolis.
Christian priests such as Mark of Arethusa or Cyrill of Heliopolis were famous as "temple destroyer."
Pagan services became punishable by death in 356. [DA468]
Christian Emperor Theodosius (408-450) even had children executed, because they had been playing with remains of pagan statues.
According to Christian chroniclers he "followed meticulously all Christian teachings..."
In 6th century pagans were declared void of all rights.
In the early fourth century the philosopher Sopatros was executed on demand of Christian authorities.
The world famous female philosopher Hypatia of Alexandria was torn to pieces with glass fragments by a hysterical Christian mob led by a Christian minister named Peter, in a church, in 415.
Battle of Belgrad 1456: 80,000 Turks slaughtered, Antiochia (then turkish) conquered, between 10,000 and 60,000 slain. 6/28/98 100,000 Turks (incl. women & children) killed. Jerusalem conquered 7/15/1099 more than 60,000 victims (jewish, muslim, men, women, children).
(In the words of one witness: "there [in front of Solomon's temple] was such a carnage that our people were wading ankle-deep in the blood of our foes", and after that "happily and crying for joy our people marched to our Saviour's tomb, to honour it and to pay off our debt of gratitude")
The Archbishop of Tyre, eye-witness, wrote: "It was impossible to look upon the vast numbers of the slain without horror; everywhere lay fragments of human bodies, and the very ground was covered with the blood of the slain. It was not alone the spectacle of headless bodies and mutilated limbs strewn in all directions that roused the horror of all who looked upon them. Still more dreadful was it to gaze upon the victors themselves, dripping with blood from head to foot, an ominous sight which brought terror to all who met them. It is reported that within the Temple enclosure alone about ten thousand infidels perished."
Christian chronicler Eckehard of Aura noted that "even the following summer in all of palestine the air was polluted by the stench of decomposition". One million victims of the first crusade alone.
Battle of Askalon, 8/12/1099. 200,000 heathens slaughtered "in the name of Our Lord Jesus Christ".
Fourth crusade: 4/12/1204 Constantinople sacked, number of victims unknown, numerous thousands, many of them Christian.
Rest of Crusades in less detail: until the fall of Akkon 1291 probably 20 million victims (in the Holy land and Arab/Turkish areas alone).
from the beginning of Christianity to 1484 probably more than several thousand.
in the era of witch hunting (1484-1750) according to modern scholars several hundred thousand (about 80% female) burned at the stake or hanged
17th century: Catholics sack the city of Magdeburg/Germany: roughly 30,000 Protestants were slain. "In a single church fifty women were found beheaded," reported poet Friedrich Schiller, "and infants still sucking the breasts of their lifeless mothers."
17th century 30 years' war (Catholic vs. Protestant): at least 40% of population decimated, mostly in Germany.
there is not enough room to fit all those slain in the name of god in the christin sence alone. not to mention the jews, and the arabs. rember all the same guy..the same guy. just thought of differently. this is realy too long o well. i could double it just christians killing alone.
Note: All figures according to contemporary (Christian) chroniclers.
i got my source from the web. check the names and everty thing if you want.
References:
[DA]
K.Deschner, Abermals krähte der Hahn, Stuttgart 1962.
[DO]
K.Deschner, Opus Diaboli, Reinbek 1987.
[EC]
P.W.Edbury, Crusade and Settlement, Cardiff Univ. Press 1985.
[EJ]
S.Eidelberg, The Jews and the Crusaders, Madison 1977.
[LI]
H.C.Lea, The Inquisition of the Middle Ages, New York 1961.
[MM]
M.Margolis, A.Marx, A History of the Jewish People.
[MV]
A.Manhattan, The Vatican’s Holocaust, Springfield 1986.
See also V.Dedijer, The Yugoslav Auschwitz and the Vatican, Buffalo NY, 1992.
[NC]
J.T.Noonan, Contraception: A History of its Treatment by the Catholic Theologians and Canonists, Cambridge/Mass., 1992.
[S2]
Newscast of S2 Aktuell, Germany, 10/10/96, 12:00.
[SH]
D.Stannard, American Holocaust, Oxford University Press 1992.
[SP]
German news magazine Der Spiegel, no.49, 12/2/1996.
[TA]
A True Account of the Most Considerable Occurrences that have Hapned in the Warre Between the English and the Indians in New England, London 1676.
[TG]
F.Turner, Beyond Geography, New York 1980.
[WW]
H.Wollschläger: Die bewaffneten Wallfahrten gen Jerusalem, Zürich 1973.
(This is in german and what is worse, it is out of print. But it is the best I ever read about crusades and includes a full list of original medieval Christian chroniclers' writings).
[WV]
Estimates on the number of executed witches:
* N.Cohn, Europe's Inner Demons: An Enquiry Inspired by the Great Witch Hunt, Frogmore 1976, 253.
* R.H.Robbins, The Encyclopedia of Witchcraft and Demonology, New York 1959, 180.
* J.B.Russell, Witchcraft in the Middle Ages, Ithaca/NY 1972, 39.
* H.Zwetsloot, Friedrich Spee und die Hexenprozesse, Trier 1954, 56
this does not flame any person on the fourm. it merley states my point of view and states some facts about christian history. if you have a problem and flame me you are breaking rules.
ps. this is still kind of cool regarles of what i belive. because ebooks havent been going anywhere on this thing. mabey more people will do the same with other books.