como assim?? n tou entendendo... :\Quote:
Originally Posted by heliobw
vc tem de renomear as roms de acordo com o ficheiro romrc.. só isso...
e n vale a pena testar o koF 2003... pq ele n roda... só rodam o 94, 95 e 96... do 97 pa cima n roda..
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como assim?? n tou entendendo... :\Quote:
Originally Posted by heliobw
vc tem de renomear as roms de acordo com o ficheiro romrc.. só isso...
e n vale a pena testar o koF 2003... pq ele n roda... só rodam o 94, 95 e 96... do 97 pa cima n roda..
Eu renomiei de acordo com o romrc só que na hora de converter acontece isso e eu verifiquei que no romrc ao descrever a rom aparece entre cada parte a palavra END, eis o porque da minha pergunta. E o mais curioso é que isso acontece com kizuna encounter, metal slug3 e cap.tomaday também.
poix :\ se tem a ver com a romrc... entao foi pq vc alterou algo, ou entao é msm do seu ficheiro / sistema operativo...Quote:
Originally Posted by heliobw
lembra q no meu Win98 ele me dava erro??
tbm pode ser do OS!
mas entao assim n posso ajudar mt n... :/
:( Bom, meu sistema é windows xp 2,4ghz memoria ram 512; independente disso as outras roms que peguei deram quase todas certo só estas que deram problema; vou tentar reiniciar meu pc para ver se não é alguma instabilidade. Mais tarde dou um retorno. Cia! :cool:
:confused: É, não é meu sistema parece que as roms que peguei não fecham com a romrc, vou tentar achar outras... Muito obrigado pela força M Dash, espero poder lhe ajudar quando necessário.
Sds from Brazil :cool:
I cant finda Neo Driftout or magician lord anywhere that work. I own both these carts, would anyone have a problem sending me a working version or linking one?
tonythekitty: Dude, don't request roms on the boards! I think they ban you for that... :eek:
Codex: I read your posts, they were informative, thanks. Let me make sure I understand you; you mean to say that if I use that utility on the current romsets it will back-date them so they'll work with this emulator?
se é do sistema, não vale a pena reiniciar, pq será msm da config do sistema. era o q me acontecia qndo tava no Win98... só formatando é q passou.Quote:
Originally Posted by heliobw
se for do romrc, das duas uma: ou seus ficheiros nao estao correctamente renomeados de acordo com o romrc, ou vc alterou o romrc de algum jeito, OU a CRC dos roms q vc tem nao está correcta.
P.S.: nao vale a pena testar metal slug 3, poix ele nem sequer está na romrc.
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Originally Posted by tonythekitty
1 - DON'T ASK FOR ROMS!!!
2 - just read the other posts and try to fix your roms. it must be some kinda CRC error or renaming.
3 - any rom that you find WILL shurely work. you just simply don't know how to make it work.
ROMs backdate?? :\Quote:
Originally Posted by SlyBeast
I don't think there is such a thing... It's all about renaming the roms!
You must be talking about renaming the romset so that complies with the OLD names they had. like: the roms in NeoRage, instead of being numbered, they are named.
the recent romsets are numbered. that tool he's talking about must simply rename the roms from a name to the number it corresponds.
I was not requesting a copy of the rom I am requesting a replacement. If this is not possible perhaps some help? Someone posted that a neodriftout worked I have gotten20 copies of the rom from different sources and all come out the same garbled screen completely. It runsk but all with black graphics in a garbled font. Any suggestions? Is there a program for checking crc and fixing them? I found this http://www.mameworld.net/maws/romset/neodrift
if that would be any help.... Suggestions? Alsoanyone ever found a copy of magician lord that would be convertable to aes? So far the converter has rejected all the copies I have tried (again not requesting, just wondering if they are out there.)
Thanks.
:rolleyes: Ei, M Dash voce sabe por acaso quando saira um novo source para este emulador? O problema com Neo Drift eu tambem tive igual e com outras roms que deveriam funcionar a mesma coisa, o jogo entra mas na hora de jogar ou congela ou da um monte de erros graficos ou de som...
Quem sabe quando sair um up do emu as coisas fiquem mais faceis para todo mundo, porque é muito decepcionante você passar um dia inteiro procurando roms, renomeando, convertendo etc para no final não funcionar...
Vamos aguardar, então... :(
Sds from Brazil
Sorry M Dash, but you are wrong... We were not talking about some NeoRageX roms... read page 7 of this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by M Dash
It's not just about renaming the roms... 29 Neo Geo games were "redumped", (only the C'roms) since MAME 0.74u4 and WinKawaks 1.49... (At this time NeoRageX was dead...) With ClrMAMEpro you can "rebuild" those 29 old roms (before 0.74u4) to actual MAME roms and with ROMBuild [MAME v0.80 special], you can "convert" those new 29 Neo Geo roms (only the C'roms of each game) to old Neo Geo roms before MAME 0.74u4 and those 29 Neo Geo roms don't run in NeoRageX, except if you rename them from -xx.bin to _xx.rom...
-> Neo4All suggestions to Chui
-> http://www.dcemu.co.uk/vbulletin/sho...6&page=7&pp=10 (or page 6 and 7 of this thread)
"As roms NeoRageX são boas para o lixo..." ^^
sabe, isto é o problema dos roms de neogeo... já no PC é o msm... por exemplo comigo: sabe qnto tempo eu perdi e pesquisei para conseguir fazer o KoF2000 rodar no NeoRAGEx!!!!???? :\Quote:
Originally Posted by heliobw
acerca do neodriftout... deve tbm ser o msm problema, apesar de axar meio estranho, pq a rom é antiga, e tem um ficheiro M1 P1 e S1 relativamente pequeno por ser antigo, onde a maioria dos emuladores suporta sempre!
comigo funcionou, eu usei o NeoDriftOut do neoRAGEx... mas de resto, então, nao estou conseguindo ver mt bem os detalhes do p'roblema... n faço a minima ideia pq n funciona :S talvez seja de ser roms diferentes ou algo do género...
"As roms NeoRageX são boas para o lixo..." ^^ -> first off, i ALWAYS used NeoRAGEx and the emulator was always GREAT!!! it can have some problems with roms sometimes, but in the end it turns out GREAT!Quote:
Originally Posted by Codex
P.S.: se vc fala portugues, pq n posta pa mim em portugues??? :\
now: about those redumps: why did they redumped the C's if the old roms worked OK?? didn't understood why they did that...
anyways: about neodriftout - if that rom was redumped, then it was a mistake to do it, because i have the OLD version on my NeoRAGEx and it works GREAT with both NRX AND NEO4ALL/AES.
about the tool: i didn't know that existed. sorry about it. i was wrong indeed! :P
Yes, NeoRageX is great for little configs, like a PII 233mhz, it runs very well, but with higher configs I prefer use MAME/WinKawaks/Nebula or FBA...Quote:
Originally Posted by M Dash
So that everyone can understand... yes I speak a little bit portuguese...Quote:
Originally Posted by M Dash
In order to have same as possible original data... you are right they run well, but not all (and we were not talking about pure NeoRageX 0.6b roms). NeoRageX roms are harder to find nowadays, beacause there are no more "official" updates of this emulator...Quote:
now: about those redumps: why did they redumped the C's if the old roms worked OK?? didn't understood why they did that...
No problem. :)Quote:
about the tool: i didn't know that existed. sorry about it. i was wrong indeed! :P
Hello everyone, I converted all of this file Roms
This is my complete list of game, when played in my DC
Whitout prefetch / Final size
3 count bout (14mb)
2020 Super Baseball (set 1) (7mb)
Andro dunos (7mb)
Bakatono (8mb)
Blue journey (6mb)
Baseball stars (7mb)
Baseball stars 2 (8mb)
Burning fight (8mb)
Crossed swords (7mb)
Cyberlip (7mb)
Eightman (7mb)
Fatal fury 1 (8mb)
Fatal fury 2 (With some problems) (14mb)
Football frenzy (7mb)
Fight fever (14mb)
Battle Flip shot (8mb)
Goal! Goal! Goal! (With graphics problems) (15mb) (FIXED NOW)
Ghost pilots (8mb)
Gururin (6mb)
Puzzled / Joy Joy Kid (3mb)
King of the monsters (8mb)
King of the Monsters 2 - The Next Thing (13mb)
League Bowling (4mb)
Legend of success Joe (6mb)
Last resort (7mb)
Magical drop 2 (12mb)
Magician lord (6mb)
Mahjong Kyoretsuden (6mb)
Maruko deluxe quiz (16mb)
Money Puzzle Exchanger / Money Idol Exchanger (11mb)
Minnasanno Okagesamadesu (8mb)
Syougi No Tatsujin - Master of Syougi (8mb)
Mutation nation (8mb)
Nam1945 (6mb)
Sonic wings 2 (13mb)
Neo drift out (15mb)
Neo Mr. DO (7mb)
Ninja combat (7mb)
Ninja Commando (7mb)
Panic bomber (7mb)
Pop 'n Bounce / Gapporin (Freeze at 10 sec) (8mb)
Power spikes II (Don't respond in Arcade mode) (11mb)
Puzzle bobble (10mb)
Puzzle de pon (4mb)
Bang bead
Diggerman
Ganryu (Don't work in Neo4all/AES) (>20mb)
Ghost lop
Irritating maze
Jyanshin Densetsu - Quest of Jongmaster
Neo columns
Neo pong
Puzzle de pon R
Quiz Daisousa Sen - The Last Count Down
Quiz Meintantei Neo Geo - Quiz Daisousa Sen Part 2
Quiz KOF
Riding hero
Robo army
Samurai Shodown
Super dodgeball (Don't work)
Sengoku
Sengoku 2
Soccer brawl
Spin masters
Super sidekicks
Super sidekicks 2
Stakes winner
Street hoop
The Super spy
Top hunter
Top players Golf
Trash rally
Twinkle star sprites (BUG, if the game are freeze, you press "Y" button to go)
Dyna Vliner
World heroes
Wind jammers
Zintrick
Zupapa!
I remember, I edit a romrc, source of all games conversion of convertneo, this have a source romset of MAME, well, I edited with neorageX source romsets and edited and hacked romsets, you say something about SVC blue, ok, I download this and I make a Source romset for this ok?
This is the current romrc, edited by me, just download and replace this in convertneo folder, if you can read UPDATED, you have a new modifications of romrc, you stay alert
Sorry for my english but i'm from Chile ^^
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Originally Posted by Codex
my PC goes OK with MAME and Kawaks and such... but i always prefered better NeoRAGEx, because it's more easy to handle and play, AND runs always full screen - full FPS :P anyways..... i just asked about the portuguese... got a little confused, but in that case ;)
about the Cs... you mean like: the first dump, had some little lost data, soo to fix that they just redumped the roms later to be the closest to the original as possible, right?? like in Daytona USA 2 - the first dump got bad, but now that they dumped the Power Edition they are able to fix the BotE version with the ROMs from the PE version.
The first Neo Geo roms, where -> MGD2 (Multi Game Doctor 2) <- dumps (you can compare it with .smc "Super MagiCom" roms...). That's why some roms where redumped (yes to be the closest to the original as possible). :)Quote:
Originally Posted by M Dash
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Originally Posted by Codex
Um it looks like you guys are talking about a program to fix the roms, but I only speak English so if you could repeat if its important... I have gotten magicain lord to load, and I have used both dumped sets of roms that I have found, and it plays (hurray!) but the sound is really screwed up. :( Any chance of fixing this in the rom or is this an emulator fault? ALso anyone can tell me how to successfully use these prefetch files? I have put them in all the directories with the roms but when I load metalslugx or blazingstar it acts just like any large file (ie it crashes or either has garbled graphics after load.)
Help?
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Originally Posted by Codex
OH.... I see.... Well, tnx for teaching me! :D
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Originally Posted by tonythekitty
1 - yes, plz read the posts with attention before posting.. because about the fix tool, we are speaking english.
2 - if the sound of that game is screwed up: OR the emulator doesn't support the ROM at a decent rate to be able to play sounds correctly, OR the ROM sound files are corrupted/damaged.
3 - about the prefetch files.... plz read the READ-ME file of the emu, ok? it's NOT supposed for you to HAVE the ROMs with the prefetchs in the same directory. don't change the structure of the emulator files :\
1. I cant understand the english that was spoken. I have downloaded Romrenamer tool .80 for neogeo files and followed command line structure of romrenamer mame NAME OF GAME as it suggested. It always says nothing to do. Even when I put all the files where they are supposed to go (the in_roms) dir and even when I know its a rom it is supposed to correct (blazing star) but it doesnt find anything to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by M Dash
2.My specific question was on Magician Lord, if anyone knows if this is a problem in the rom (where I should keep looking for a good copy) or an emulator problem (where I should just give up until the next version)
3. There is no documentation in MY readme file about the prefetches other than it supports 10 games with prefetch. It doesnt say what to do with the files or if they must be merged wit hthe roms, or where to put them or how to load them. I kept the prefetches in ALL directories just to be safe and Mslugx crashes the emu and blazing star has garbled graphics and I just wondered what I am doing wrong.
In addition. Thanks to anyone who did try to help me. No thanks to those of you who didnt, or who just want to treat me like a fool. I am a casual user of these programs and do not spend nearly as much time with this as you guys do. I was able to fix the romconverter problems that you guys seemed to have without any outside help, so I must not be a complete idiot. I have fixed several of my own games. I a mjust having troubles with a few that are important to me, and wanted assistance. I am sorry if that is too much to ask. It seems to me that everyone on these boards is concentrating on games which this emulator will NEVER realistically play! I mean SVC Vs Capcom Chaos Blue? How much do you think you can get out of the dreamcasts dinky amount of ram before it just kicks the bucket and croaks? If you want to do something useful then you should like me concentrate on making or perfecting these under 16 meg files (mainly the ones under 8 meg) so that we can have a fullspeed emu for somethings. No matter how much prefetch you add you will never play SVC vs CAPCOM at fullspeed with no framskip and no lag. The DC processor is too weak and the ram too limited. Not to mention the uselessness of trying to perfect something that already has ports on several major consoles. Where can you buy a copy of Ghost Pilots or Magician Lord for your XBOX? NOWHERE. That is what we should be concentrating on.
Thanks again to the author of this wonderful emulator if he reads these posts. I think this is promising! Cant wait for your next version!! Hope it comes swiftly I will check dcemulation.com every day!
Thanks to the Kairo who wrote the updated or hacked version of romrc. I couldnt understand one word in your post but downloading that file made several more of my games convert properly, so kudos!!!!
I wont bug you guys again since I seem to have upset you so.
first off, SvC IS AT full speed emulation. the only thing that keeps it are the MID-FIGHT loadings... if that is fixed, the game will run great!!
second: i'm not treating u has a idiot or something. i simply tryed to help you with your problem!
about the prefetchs, when u convert a ROM, the prefetch is automatically added to the AES ROM. try to convert e ROM without prefetch. if you check the LOG, you'll se a message saying: "WITHOUT PREFETCH!"... If the game has prefetch, it won't say nothing. so don't mess with the directory structure or prefetchs, because they are already ready to be used.
Hi,
Which set you use? CRC's of each rom? Could you post a screenshot of your svc.zip? You can upload pics on http://imageshack.us ...Quote:
Originally Posted by M Dash
See yaa!
the set???? well... I... hmm... DELETED IT! X.X
The set i have for PC is diferent of the one i used to convert and play in the DC.
After converting to AES, i deleted the set!
So i no longer have the set, and even if i have the files, i don't remember the CRCs of them :\
Of course, i ahve the AES file. if that can help....
EDIT:
I believe my set was this:
c1 - 465d473b
c2 - 3eb28f78
c3 - f4d4ab2b
c4 - a69d523a
c5 - ba2a7892
c6 - 37371ca1
c7 - 56ac5fb9
c8 - de99e613
m1 - 941fb671
p1 - 44304c0d
s1 - aaef740c
v1 - e7203930
v2 - 675159c3
v3 - f8810665
v4 - b57b4ea3
Everyone is talking about how these games are running "fine". I can't get anything to run without a lot of memory skipping unless I turn the sound off. Is this pretty much par for the course? Plus, how do I integrate these prefetch files into the roms so that I can get the larger games to run "fine"? Right now they're decidedly less than fine and I don't notice any performance difference between larger games with prefetch files and those without.
Otherwise great work, keep it up, wish I was smart enough to contribute more than criticism...
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Originally Posted by nevsky187
The games DO run fine. Try running the AES's on Windows, but if they run bad, run them on the DC. they will go great! Integrate the Prefetch files?? oO;
they're automaticaly added to the AES files when you convert them with the converter!!!
If you don't see diference... that's because of your PC. anyways: on the Dreamcast, most of them run great!
About the smart comment..... I won't say anything... you just judged yourself... nobody told you nothing about it.
Alright now that i got the thing working using that tutorial i'm going to mention here the same as what i did in the tutorial post. There is some bad load times in SVC Chaos not just during the 1st battle it can also occur on the next battle. I find with pressing pause and letting it sit for a bit updates the loading a bit.
You can however select your character which people are complaining about and you do it by holding start and using the D-Pad to select your character. However i wouldnt say this is totally playable yet nor is this emu in a playable state its new so lets wait until further updates instead of complaining about new releases. By the way the emu is great for a new release.
Eric
is there any way to make rage of the dragons convertable? the romrc only has the decrypted version in, and hell if i know what that means
I have tried many games,
WAKU WAKU 7 (work very well)
GALAXY FIGHT (WORK WELL)
SHOCK TROPPERS 1 (WORK WELL)
BLAZING STAR (WORK WELL, miss the music, but is good!!!)
GOALX3 (WORK WELL)
WINJAMMERS (WORK GOOD)
FATAL FURY REAL BOUT (WORK WELL)
NEOBOMBERMAN (WORK WELL)
FIGHTING FEVER (WORK WELL)
KIZUNA ENCOUNTER (load too much when you play, and at the third stage or fouth lost the FX or music)
SPINMASTER (SCREEN BLACK)
GANRYU (BLACKSCREEN)
MATREMELEE (CRASH THE EMU, WHEN LOAD THE ROM)
SAMURAI SPIRIT ZERO SPECIAL (CRASH THE EMU WHEN LOAD THE ROM)
KOF2003 (CRASH THE EMU WHEN LOAD THE ROM)
GURURIN (bad graphic)
NEODRIFT OUT (GO WELL) ^_^
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the smalls games go very good,and a lot of great game also, this version alpha is good, the games from work hard are:METAL SLUG 3-4-5, MATREMELEE, SAMURAI SHODOWN 5 SPECIAL, KOF2003, RAGE OF THE DRAGON, SNK VS CAPCOM (resolve small problems), KIZUNA ENCOUNTER.
The others games work well in NEOGEO CD EMU, i think wich is good work on this games.
Thank you chui, magnific work.
Here's my compatibility check:
Sound problems: (heavily distorted music)
Blue's Journey
Crossed Swords
Magician Lord
Ninja Combat
Super Spy
Crash the emu:
Ganryu
Money Puzzle Exchanger
Spinmasters
Super Dodgeball
Graphics
Gururin
Riding Hero
Other:
Irritating Maze (Controls)
First of all: Thanks Chui and Fox68k for these jewels you guys are making.
My question is about the Windows version of NEO4ALL AES. How exactly it works? What is the right directory for the bios to be put in? No matter what I do I always get a blank screen with a BGM when i double click on the icon to run the emu. There's no way for me to choose a game. Why is this happening? Are the results with the win version the same with the dreamcast version?
I'm on a Win2000 pro (updated) PC. My bios files:
neo-geo.rom -> renamed to aes-bios.bin
ng-lo.rom
ng-sfix.rom
ng-sm1.rom -> sfix.sfx
All files are with the correct size(128k, 64k, 128k, 128k respectively)
(all my roms have been converted by using these bios files)
Thanks in advance for any help. Happy new year for everyone!
The same thing happens to me when I try to run the windows version.I would really like to get this working so i can test the roms before burning.I burned 1 disc with Captain Tomaday on it and it works great. I am running windows xp sp2 on a pIII with a Riva tnt2 video card.
Tested roms list, using First Alpha Version:
Burning Fight
Perfect gameplay, just some sound lags, normal.
Fatal Fury
Works fine...
Fatal Fury 2
So much lags while reading ROM during the game. In the 2nd battle you can't hit the opponent, and vice-versa (you can hit him only with trow). In the 3rd battle the time clock stars at just 2 seconds and makes impossible to hit the opponent in time.
Fatal Fury 3:
Frequently a blank (black) screen appears, losing all graphics. Just sound stays. This makes the game unplayable.
SNK vs. Capcom Chaos:
Impossible to choose any character at Arcade Mode (the cursor don't move, staying at Kyo).
Today i will test more ROMS!
C ya!!!
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Originally Posted by Frango
actualy, you CAN choose another character besides Kyo in SVC CHAOS.... just press the start button and the cursor will start randomizing the character... just go trying until the cursor stops on the character that you want, and then select it...
Oh thanks... i've been discovered this trick hours ago! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by M Dash
But... the 'lags' (of loading) during the game, when you perform a move, really sucks a lot... :(
Yes, very large games like SVC Chaos is not playable because there are a lot of page fliping, Dreamcast have 16MB and SVC Chaos is a game >80MBytes.
I finally tried out Beta 1 with ROMs from the latest MAME romset. I used prefetches when possible and removed extraneous emulator files to free up valuable RAM as well.
The following games were near perfect:
2020 Super Baseball
Aero Fighters 2
Baseball Stars 2
Battle Flip Shot
Eight Man
King of Monsters
Last Resort
League Bowling
Magical Drop 2
Nam-1975
Thrash Rally
Wind Jammers
The following games had graphical errors and may be playable with an older romset:
Aero Fighters 3
Magical Drop 3
The following games had loading issues and/or graphical errors and are basically unplayable:
3 Count Bout
Fatal Fury 2
Kabuki Klash
Last Blade 2
Metal Slug
Metal Slug X
Samurai Showdown II
Shock Troopers
Street Hoop
Top Hunter
Turf Masters
Twinkle Star Sprites
Waku Waku 7
What is the romset needed? The "Neoragex" or the "MAME"? One of these does not work under the other's emulator.
I tried renaming my SVC, but no success. I have that "No valid romset found for source rom file", all the time, I'm getting upset.
Any help?
By the way, I just love Neo4all, that NGCD emulator. It really rules! I never thought I would be able to play older KOF in my DC.
I'm sending Chui's page to everyone I can. It's really a lot amazing.
I do want to test AES4all, since there's no "Rage of the Dragons" released for the NGCD.