In development DCEmu community project: Generic Survival Horror Clone #1

yeah, or as I have considered, I could compleetly change the name, and just make it like a resident evil game lol...

I had been thinking about telling everyone that the "Resedent Evil" title is like, a working title, I can change it lol..

What I ment was, the model for the Police Department level is almost identical to the P.D. in RE2, so I feal it may be the same as re-drawing their work and calling it my own.

and no Kaiser, still no coder, I asked PSMonkey, but I may have come off as a complete retard, because he didnt answer.. so.. I'll just wait for someone to contact me.

did you write to the creators of re2 and ask if you could clone it?

not yet, I realy dont know how to ask that kind of question

if you want to ...
i suggest being incredibly polite(beyond average reasoning) and just stating you would like to produce a NON-PROFIT homage to resident evil 2 homebrew game on the psp free for people to use
be flattering
really highlight the fact it is NON- PROFIT
but
you will almost certainly get aq very awkward and contrived corporate letter probably saying not to use any trademarks OR ELSE
and that any new ideas you come up with, will not give you the right to compensation or ownership in the event that the developers use you ideas or similar in the production of there titles

well, I'm not quite to the point of ass-kissing for a game remake, I think I'm going to make it anyway, since it will be original textures and level design it will still be original enough to not get me in trouble. also, I never thought I would make a full remake of the original game, that will be in about 3 or 4 years when my buddies and I are going to make "Resident Levi" which will be an accual remake with humor.. this is a first project, and attemt to make somthing to show just what I can do, along with making a great game in general

sorry people, nothing sizable done on RE, I've been working on Caelestis..

and me and a friend are having a FF8 contest.. to see who can beat the game (properly) the fastest..
and of course by properly, I mean level 8 untill disc 4, encounter none before Timber, and ultimate junctions! :D

so I'll try to work on some modeling when I get a chance, I just need to take a break and work on my yearly FF8 contest :p

Hey again everyone! I have made even more progress, I have a playable lua app built to view pictures.. Its not much, but its my start at learning lua myself to code this game in 2D to start with!

so here it is, I'm sure nobody cares, but its somthing to waste a while downloading and copying over to your psp :D

its for 1.5 F/W PSP's only
and I hold no responsibility for any dammage this program may cause ( I dont see why it would, but its a reasonable way to not get anyone mad if it does brick randomly)

keep in mind this is my first app for any system, so it sucks, and doesent have a profesional sence.. but its damn cool for 3 hours of reading Lua tutorials lol

Nice work Jman. I made a news post about it. All coding whether the smallest of LUA apps or the biggest emulators deserves some publicity and will be reported on by DCemu.

PM wraggster or DarkSaviour69 to ask for coder access. I'm sure the new forums it access for you will help you find some coder talent for this and many other projects.

I looked at the photos- I think they look great!

If you're really serious about doing a project of this scale, I'd suggest more of an original take. It can pay homage to the RE series (and poke fun at it, occasionally), but I wouldn't get too wound up in making an exact re-creation.

And while I'm at it, I might as well throw this out, but if you need someone to do some music/effects, I'd be more than happy to help. Sorry that I'm not much of a coder; when I took C++ classes, I tended to surf the net and play Javanoid more than I actually worked.

well hey sure We'll eventualy need some kind of music, for starters just a music piece to put in the main hall of the RE2 P.D. so if you want to work on one of those? and if you want, you can add me on one of my instant messanging service buttons to talk to me on MSN AIM or Yahoo.

and those that know how to program in C, I think that it would be simplest if the one person I have helping with his 3D engine works on the graphics and engine side of the game.
while someone else that knows how, can code the various other things that need done (controll, Artificial Intellegence, a menu system, and some item systems.. So if anyone knows how to program in C, and has some spare time, could someone please help me with some code for these fields.

And its finaly started to come together, I have gotten another modeler on board, And a C programmer with a 3D engine, we hope to have something to show by next month some time, it should all come together by then, so those that are interested, you wont be waiting long! We're trying to build a game demo :D

its all going to happen now :D
it wont be fully 3D yet,
but eventualy I can update the 3D engine and code some myself..
as for now we are using a low power engine (about 3k triangles per rendering pass maximum) so I've worked out to use pre-rendered backgrounds (the same as the pictures I used on the Lua app I built)
with a 3D collision map, with character model and animated items built on that, then an overlay with transperency, so to create an image above the 3D map (so when you walk behind items, the character image is cut off)

please keep checking back for information! :D

I will begin working tomorrow morning.

Hopefully I'll create something you like. :)

The RPD will need good music :D

The remixed RPD track found in Outbreak File 2 OST might be good inspiration. Or even a song from the unreleased RE 1.5. I'm lucky enough to find that rare song. Its quite creepy and it baffles me that it didn't make it into the final game.

thanks a lot Sumo X! :D
and yeah Kaiser, if I can get some realy good music (from any source), I'm sure it would go in the game somewhere :D

Well, instead of sleeping, I got a working version of some music for the main lobby of the RPD (where there's no danger). I loaded up the rom for this game just to hear what kind of music they used, and sort went along those lines.

But if I were to do more music for this game, I'd definately have to take few ideas from the song provided by Kaiser. That did have an ultra creepy feel to it.

Tomorrow I'll tidy it up- won't necessarily be a full piece, but you'll have a very good idea of what I'm imagining. I don't want to work hard to do it "perfect" only to later have to go back and make changes that could take more time or to find out that you don't like it at all. ;)

I have a big library of RE music that you can have if you like :D

I will upload it on another website to save this site their memory I bet they have loads of memory use on here lol

how about something like the queen and darkness themes from ICO, ?????

ok I'll adress these one at a time.

Sumo X: Well execelent, I'd like to hear it, thats what I had originaly thought, if we re-mix the song and dont rip off the accual song, its not considered "stealing" the music. And it sounds like thats what you did, so I cant wait to hear it.

Briggzy11: No thanks, I have all the psf files of all the resedent evil games on PS1 I just didnt want to use any of the tracks

Accordianboy: I dont eeven know what ICO is, can you ecplain what that is?

What!?!?!??!?

its an early ps2 game by fumito ueda,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ico
one of the best games on ps2 ever.
the music is moswtly really moody and creepy electronic stuff, almost like the Bords of Canada(thats a band, by the way)

is it okay to upload one song from the OST, not too sure about legal issues?????

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s it okay to upload one song from the OST, not too sure about legal issues?????

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Video Game OST's are grey area really. Technically its illegal in most countries but no one is ever really punished for it. Uploading only one track is fine with me however.

cant be too careful, fear the corporation!!!!

heres one track off the ICO OST, very atmospheric
it should unzip okay, just say if not, my zip apps been acting up lately.

if you like, and i get some free time ill have a go at making some sample tracks a bit similar to this, going for a knife/bjork/boards of canada type of sound
i cant promise anything, lifes too hectic, but i would enjoy doing something musical after the stress of my exams...

Ok, so here's a rough draft of some music. It's not quite how I'd like to present it, but I don't think you want me to take a few days to reflect just to see if its any good at all :p.

If you have suggestions, I'm all ears. And if you think I suck, well, be gentle about it! :o

I liked the ICO music- I think it would be very possible for me to create something akin to that as well.

Question though, can you mix one where every 4 beats the back track(the main bassline) changes to A#, any maybe you could add in the 2 other notes of A# and G just to make it more then 1 key the intire song?

I understand that 1 key repeated over will sounds creepy and good for the genre, but you have to think about it, RE2 had very musical music in it, all the music had lots of (almost like RPG's) lots of note changes in the music..
I just wondered if you could try to mix it up on your RPD file.
However, it sounds realy good as it is, I'd just like to hear more changes throughout the song.

And on the other hand, I can very faintly hear the music from the accual game in there? I'd like to know what that would sound like turned up a little bit :D

I'd also like to ask if you used MadTracker?


And on to Accordianboy! :D sure, if theres a track, theres a game for it. :D

good work in short time, it takes me ages to get anything done, i spend loads of time working a piece in my head, then spend ages trying to recreate it on the computer


may i suggest, having the main rhythm and bass sounds really flat sounding, without the volume bouncing around high and low. that way the audience quickly settles into it and it becomes more of decieving background drone. then have some higher minor scales drifting in and out, about a mid volume. finally have some chords right at the top octave striking violently(a bit like psycho) like maybe the same notes as the scales but ascending chords instead

having the ranges really defined will add loads to the suspense and effect....

this is going to be so great

jman-

Ok, I think I understand what you want by lowering the tone every 4th sequence. But I'm not sure what you mean by add in 2 other notes. Do you mean the main bassline, or just anywhere? Sorry if that question is confusing, but I'm rather confused myself! :p

And no, I didn't use ANYTHING from the real RE music (or any other game music). I think the sound you're talking about is just some noise from the program I use. I don't use Madtracker (hadn't even heard of it before you mentioned it. I use Fruity Loops 3.5.6.

Again, it was just a demo, so I know it needs more variety, especially with breaks in the music where maybe you just hear a single sound or whatnot.

Accordian boy-

Thanks! I'm pretty sure I understand what you're thinking. To a degree, what you're suggesting would involve rewriting a considerble sum of the music- to the point where I'd probably just be better off starting from scratch.

If the project continues, it will be necessary to write lots of pieces, so I'll be sure to take what you said into account.

And for the record, I don't know Fruity Loops inside and out- that is to say, that I may say something may not be possible now, but it may actually be. As I fiddle with the program, I'm sure I'll unlock many more tricks to achieve certain effects as requested. Over time, I'm sure the music will become more interesting with effects and sounds.

sorry, I'm a confusing speaker lol... I ment can you add musical tones and notes, and change the key once or twice.. I beleave that since its a "safe room" it doesent need to be to horriffic, and I had expected that those 2 other notes "A#" and "G" would go with the general key.
I dont meen to be asking for more, I think that its amazing that you got that done in the short ammount of time you did, so I dont ask any more of you for a while :D

I just thought it needed somthing, at least 1 key change, I will sit down and listen to the whole thing later and talk to you about my vision (I dont meen to try to change your song though, I am a musical artist aswell). so I would only be suggesting the way I would do it..

and try MadTracker, its a good musical compisition program, and has several "voices" for sounds, including a whole lot of synth.. as well as having a MIDI recorder.. it might be good for what your doing.. (just a suggestion)

and Accordianboy, I think that would work, but I could see how that would be more difficult for now, thanks anyway :D

thanks everyone, I'll check back in a while! :D

Well, the main riff is in the key of C, which would mean the most 'natural' notes to go to are F and G. But then again, perhaps we want the unnatural for this. :)

I lowered every 4th sequence to A# and it does sound pretty good that way. I'm also working on some sequences that have very little music/sound in them, to sort of recreate that semi-silence feel from RE. After I get some more done and arrange them in a half decent way, I shall share the update.

But if you have time, jman, could you do me a bit of a favor? I went back and reread every post and since there's so much, it's all sort of jumbled in my head. Could you make a post with a single, clear address to the state of this game regarding how many coders you have (and how much coding has been) as well as the artwork/renders and the alike? Just trying to get a feel for how much "game" is actually there and how much of it is still an idea.

yeah, I knew it was in C just from listening to it, and I feel that yes F and G are good notes for C to flow into, but A# seemed to have the right tone to go along with your track...

and yes, I have been planning to re-write all the information about the project, A lot of what I say(what I type) is typed the way it would be said, I type as I think.. I'm in no way a good writer.. lol, but yeah I am going to update all the information about the project as of now on the #1 first thread, give me a while to do it though..
Edit: done for now on the first post information page, this will also be updated for the SHHQ site..

Well, you clearly have better hearing than me. I can never seem to recognize the key of any music just by hearing it. :mad:

So if we're gunning for a July demo (and I know that's sort of stretching the word 'demo'), what's the status of the engine in regards to having something actually usable on a PSP?

I don't think I'm going to have a new version up tonight, but I have been learning how to apply different effects to instruments/sounds. The good news is that, well, I can do it and export it just fine. The bad news is I can't save my progress (as in, the fruity loops file which I can edit later) with those effects because they're 'demo' effects. From what searching I've done, these things aren't free, so I'll have to apply certain effects just before I finish a piece.

Well, I've had many years in music, I also realy enjoy the melodies of many older Video Games.

And I have grown to think about the way that somthing sounds, rather then the way it accualy sounds.. And by this I mean, I can think of the way a song will sound in my head, without ever having to listen to it. So when I listen to it, I can hear the differences in keys and notes.

And as for the "Demo" our programmer has a working 3D rendering engine with positional camera, that we can use to render the model of the character in front of a bitmap.. we basicly have the game all ready built for PSP, but we have not yet finnished on the model we were going to use for the character, and still havent finnished on the P.D. Main hall model.
So it wont be released untill the things I have mentioned get done. But I will tell you this, we have a working 3D renderer for PSP, that will render files that I can create on a 3D modeling program.

and its perfectly fine, I dont want to rush you, I think that what you have done so far is impressive, and I would like to hear more of what you can do, but I dont need you to hurt yourself to get it to work.
And like I said, try MadTracker. URL:
http://www.madtracker.org/main.php
It is a very easy to understand music recording tool, that also has a lot of different settings for other voices and allows for RAW WAV files to be played back as voices. It also includes a lot of different syth plugins, and best of all, its free... the only reason you would have to pay for it is if you wanted to export to another format, but if comes with .OGG exporting, and that can be changed to MP3 easily. Or you could use the Nero Wave Editor to record from your systems main sound card bridge :D
I'd at least suggest a download.

Nice work on that demo Sumo X it sounded very REish :)

I've got one more track that I must show you guys. Remember Ada's them from RE2? It was one of my favorite tracks in that game. Anyway here is a remix of that same track I found on OCR. Though this track has been turned into a sort-of technoish arrangement it still captures the feel of her theme and the original RE2. I think it be a neat idea to incorperate this theme in some form somewhere in this game as a sort of easter egg for Resident Evil fans.

edit: I've also renamed the title of this thread.

no doubt! Good thinking Kaiser :D Thanks!
And thanks for renaming the thread, I had ment to ask you about that :D

and yes. Sumo X, I hope that I never came across like I didnt like your track, I think that its great, I was just asking if you wanted to try to add a few other sections of different musical tones :D

RPD main hall looked pretty good and done to me (even though I could only see half). I'm sure doing character models, even simplistic ones, are a huge task. Still though, sounds like there's a lot of progress coming along on that front. I should begin finishing up different sequences, so I can begin combining them into a piece which could maybe make it into the demo. If possible, I'd like to get my hands on that a little earlier than others. :D

And thanks for the compliment, Kaiser, as well as the link you sent in the PM. Very useful.

well yes, it was poorly modeled, and had some shoddy meshes in it, so I decided to have it re-modeled in the proper scale, as before it was about half scale..

and I think that yes, you can have a piece in the demo, the thing is, it will be 1 track to start, after we get the engine and "Beta" version of the finnished rendering engines and display (along with controls and collission AI) it will be released, and this will be able to test the music play while the game is playing. I think that for a start the "Demo" is going to have 1 level, in 2 seperate forms, with the ability to play on 2.6 via GTA Loader.
And do you have AIM? MSN? Yahoo? some other form of communication for questions like
"I'd like to get my hands on that a little earlier than others" of course you do! lol you dont even have to ask stuff like that..
But still, get an IM serivce! :D

(in other news, I have made my own avatar image :D)

Wait wait wait....so all this time, we've had a demo running with essentially a midget running around a 3d world?!?! Why the heck is this not released!??!?!?!:D

And I do have an IM service. Just go get QQ- sure you'll have to be able to write Chinese to verify your sign-up, but hey, you can talk to me and all of my Chinese friends (all girls, by the way ;))!

While that's true, and you can try if you'd like, check your PMs for my AIM name.

yeah essentialy, lol, for the last 2 days we've had that technology, I did not have a coder before. The programmer that joined already had a 3D rendering engine, and at the time, we are working on getting a file format that we can use on the psp rendering program.

heh, I wouldnt mind, I'll check out this QQ- tomorow however, because its freekin 3am lol

well


i will try and get something up late tonight as fast as possible, i will just be editing some old midi files from all sorts of places for the time being, just finding melodies i thhink will work then changing the key, and timing to get the effect im after,
just to give an idea of what i think will work

dont judge me too harshly when it comes

im fragile..

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I'm going to break you, boy! :D

Look forward to what you have coming.

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Heh, well I'll try not to make ya cry or anything then :p

I think it sounds like you guys are dedicated, so I want to hear whatever you make, even if it doesent sound the greatest, I wouldnt be able to do much better..

Thanks for keeping up the good work :D

and in recent news, NeoDudeMan has joined the team as a programmer, we are on a good roll to build a working beta fairly soon :D

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and in recent news, NeoDudeMan has joined the team as a programmer, we are on a good roll to build a working beta fairly soon :D

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Excellent!!! :) :)

I was a little worried that one coder wouldn't be nearly enough, but I'm glad interest in this project is developing.