Definative firmware guide

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Originally Posted by lebber

doubel lol

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hi all,

I reached this forum by chance, while I was searching for some infos about firmware 2.71 functions, and this discussion attracted my attention, so I decided to leave my first post to comment it...;)

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Originally Posted by b8a

ISO piracy hurts everyone, not just Sony

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ISO piracy hurts JUST Sony (and you, as I can read). I feel free to say this only after making a consideration, thinking about why piracy starts and develops. We are living in a society based on consumerism, where everytime and everywhere publicity is showing you how poor and miserable you are if you don't own this or that...meanwhile, knowing the emotive impact of this form of propaganda, industry inflates prices to the extreme possible, as in the end your frustration will make you just glad to pay the impossible to be cool just like everyone else...and Sony is a well inserted part in this producer-consumer game...so who are really to blame, people who just try to live out in this kind of society, where your are espected to have even what u can't afford, or industries who play with your weaknesses to fatten up? this maybe deserves consideration...and don't just simplify the matter such as "if they can't resist, they deserve it" "they're just stupid guys who buy everything is addressed as cool", 'cause we all know it's not so simple...

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Originally Posted by b8a

Agreed. I can't afford these games at these prices, but if everyone paid for them (and if Sony were honorable, which I think we have reason to expect they would be), then the prices would fall. It's basic economics.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

do you really know economy? in a monopolistic situation (like this one, as Sony is not the only games producer, but games titles that Sony produces are not produced by any other, so there's no effective market competition for these specific titles) the producer can (and will) often produce a volume that is less than the amount which would maximize social welfare, and can (and will) sell it to the higher price he can propose without loosing too much clients, and as economy teaches us here we are really far from the so called "paretian optimal" situation...
and I will not say a single word on Sony "honorability"...just consider they're based on a capitalistic growth of their patrimony, and you'll get all the answers you need...as u said, "Sony does bring in millions each week"...;)



by the way, that post is just my personal opinion, I hope I'll not get hungry answers for just having stated it out...and I want to apologize for my bad english, that doesn't allow me to express as much as I would like to...

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Originally Posted by Fire_Mikael

ISO piracy hurts JUST Sony (and you, as I can read).

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no, UMD ISO piracy hurts just sony. iso piracy as a whole hurts everyone....isos can be for PC, xbox, etc... ;)

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Originally Posted by Fire_Mikael

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

do you really know economy?

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Actually he's right. He does know enough about economy to know the basics of supply and demand in direct correlation with market equilibrium.

When the supply and the demand meet you have equilibrium and right now, (due to the high prices imposed on all digital media), supply is greater than the whole consumer demand.

Really he was quite right and if Sony would lower their prices then consumers would be more apt to buy them. And this can be looked at as simple economics or fundamentalist economics.

To be honest if you break it down into a micro strategy, I would have to say that the matching of supply/demand equilibrium could be ahieved as a result of marketing. If Maslow's hierarchy of needs is involved, (i.e' wants vs needs), then you're playing with marketing. And that is one of the factors that truly hurts the PSP.


There are in my own opinion only a handful of titles worth owning on the PSP and as of yet there has not been a "killer app" for the PSP, (think Super Mario, Halo or Sonic). If Sony were to achieve equilibrium then profits would rise and as a direct result producers would take notice at the growth in the industry specifially by Sony and the PSP's performance and therefore would be more apt to spend developmental manhours and money on more products for the PSP. You'd think Sony would realize this...but alas I digress. We are doomed to forever pay insane prices for our digital entertainment and any company who tries to create a "budget" system or game is ultimately doomed to be swallowed up in the market.

Hence the reason for piracy. Not that I am for or against piracy, but this is the reasoning behind it. An economically constricting market.

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ha ha you not safe

I smell bullshit Fire_Mikael. ;)

Behind this "big-worded" rant is a very flawed argument. Your justification for stealing is that they're making enough money already. Tough shit. Just because you may disagree to with a companies business practices gives you no right to steal what it is trying to sell. Your argument sounds more like an excuse from some self-righteous college hippy.

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Originally Posted by Fire_Mikael

do you really know economy? in a monopolistic situation (like this one, as Sony is not the only games producer, but games titles that Sony produces are not produced by any other, so there's no effective market competition for these specific titles) the producer can (and will) often produce a volume that is less than the amount which would maximize social welfare, and can (and will) sell it to the higher price he can propose without loosing too much clients, and as economy teaches us here we are really far from the so called "paretian optimal" situation...
and I will not say a single word on Sony "honorability"...just consider they're based on a capitalistic growth of their patrimony, and you'll get all the answers you need...as u said, "Sony does bring in millions each week"...

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Where the hell did you learn economics comrade? ;)

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