PSP Homebrew Scene Going Illegal With Custom Firmwares and Devhook ?

Homebrew is just as harmful as pirating.

Actually saying that ppl are losing money on pirated copies that required abolutely no production cost besides creation is foolish and uneducated.

There's only one reason homebrew may not be such a large threat and that was because up untill a month ago 1.5 access was still restricted to most users. No one wants to develop for a system they can't test on. Btw: when 'I' talk about home brew I mean ALL homebrews, hacks, loaders, etc. (Not Sony Endorsed)

Anyways you homebrew fans ARE just as bad as any pirate out there. If you emulate at all your a bloody pirate anyways. Dont give me that freeware rom bulls**t you don't play those. Your playing Chrono Trigger, Megaman, Mario, Final Fantasy, etc.

Custom firmwares will only make sony money.
This is the effect of PSP pirates.

1.) Homebrew (Legal & Dodgy) no doubt boost PSP Sales but many argue that Sony makes no money on HARDWARE sales. Only GAME sales.

2.) A higher quantity of expensive high-capacity PRO Duo memory sticks are no doubt sold due to homebrew & ISO Loaders. Sony probably makes a profit fo them. Except SanDisk has better sticks.

3.) If Sony plays their cards right with the PSOne EMU, that will make large amounts of profit and revive the PSP.

Basically, I think all of the countermeasures put in place to combat homebrew have actually hurt Sony more than it helped. And the ONE game that would have consistently sold due to the exploit (GTA) they patched so nobody is going to want to buy it. IT will be looked for USED.

Homebrew and all that comes with it is not unstoppable. I don't think there is quite enough homebrew junkies in the world to cause the PSP a quick demise. YET!!!

Its true. Ceating and Using Iso's is not illegal. Creating and Using Rom is not illegal. Creating an emulator is not illegal. Now, free distibution of such items, without actually paying for the original, thats another story. Custom Firmwares? Those are original creations meant to run on a hardware you paid to own.

exactly, you paid to own it, they did not give you rights to it, just to use it. This is similar to Microsoft's Windows. They did give it to you, you paid for it and they are letting you use it, its not yours, its just yours to use.....i kinda just countered your post, got any comebacks?

If Sony comes down on the homebrew community it will only push us off of their product and only a more homebrew friendly one such as the GP2X and XGP. I want my homebrew and emulators and if I can't have them on my PSP I will still have them only elsewhere.

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Originally Posted by jwilds73

If Sony comes down on the homebrew community it will only push us off of their product.

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And Sony cares why? The majority of posters have already said that they don't buy UMD films and games so Sony have already made all they're going to out of people who only run homebrew.

Maybe I'll get flamed a little for saying this, but I think this whole anti-ISO campaign is a little ridiculous. Many, myself included, legally (yes, legally) dump our UMDs to ISOs in order to play directly from the memory stick and not have to carry around an extra UMD to play different games (you only need one in the drive). I always get a kick out of those "I hate ISO" signatures... sometimes I even laugh out loud to myself (not too loud though). ISO files are great for many reasons, and generalizing its use seems pretty ignorant to me.

I understand how playing illegal copies of games brings the game sales down, but honestly... how many PSP owners even know about this stuff, let alone have the abillity to exploit this feature? Let's get real guys, there's a very small percentage of PSP owners that know anything about playing ISOs. Saying that it'll kill the system is exagerating a little, don't you think?

Look at it this way. No no matter what particular programs we place the blame on (in this case DevHook, a great piece of software), another one will always come out. Look at DVD Decrypter... great piece of software, many great uses. They got shut down, now there's hundreds others like it. I hope that made sense, I'm just kind of typing whatever comes to mind now.

That's my 2 cents... or 10 cents... or whatever on this issue... I'm really tired of hearing about it (sorry but it's the truth). Love this site, no kidding I come here everyday, but this talk about piracy and all only promotes its use (many will come and see that there is, in fact a way to copy games and jump all over it). And, dare I say, I'm sure there's at least a few hypocrites out there who whine about it but use this kind of stuff themselves. Try not to get too upset about what I just wrote, I'm sure some of you will be a little offended.

-Peace out

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Originally Posted by borikua_rocks

Ok, heres a question which I know no one who bashes ISO's will respond to.

If I own a GBA Cart and I make a Rom to play on a GBA emulator. how is that any different than if I own a UMD game and I rip it as an ISO to a memory stick to run on Devhook? Or if I own a DVD and transfer it to a Memory stick to view it on my PSP? Again...shades of grey my friends. Shades of grey.

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Dude thats not the issue!! The thing is if u got the ISO ilegally!!

Most ppl wont agree but have u ever been in class and some idiot acts stupid so the rest of the class gets punish along with him? I have and Im afraid that sony might do the same. They may punish the rest of us cuz a couple of ppl are using ISOS!! think about it. Sony are so full of it they might do it

And how many ppl are playing homebrew? not many and yet Sony noticed it and released patches!! Same with ISOS thats why they release patches so that few percent wont play those ISOS no more, making it harder for hackers to find new exploits!! Think about it

Are custom firmwares for DVD players "illegal"

I would say the same answer must be true for other electronic devices?

I find it extremely hypocritical of Dcemu claiming the moral highground in regards to Devhook while encouraging the release of emulators. So it's bad to play and ISO of a game you own if it's for the PSP but good if it's for the GBA/SNES/Genesis?

Also, DCemu consistently promotes hombrew games that feature ripped sprites. Where's the outrage over that? The game engine might've been created legally, but the graphics surely aren't legally obtained.

Furthermore, since the Kxploit is basically a workaround of the security system of the PSP, it's arguable that ALL homebrew is illegal (not that I support such a view). So if DCemu was truly commited to legal homebrew, it could only be for 1.0 PSPs featuring completely original graphics, sound, and engine.

Just post the new Devhook and don't advertise that it can play ISOs if it'll make you feel better.