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December 14th, 2006, 02:36
JKKDARK

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Remember how easy it was to make copies of GD's? I doubt Sega would want their new console to play them because of that.

GD's are a great format, but had lacked any security, which in my reasoning, would mean Sega can't go back and implement a good security function to prevent pirated/copied games from playing.

And you still don't understand. The format for the next games will not be GD's. I'm talking about compatibility with them. Also, the latest Dreamcast manufactured in the United States (After October 2000, I think) were unable to read CD's, it means that piracy was not a problem on these versions.
December 14th, 2006, 03:18
VampDude

GD's are outdated anyway, they were limited to 1.2gb which compared to games thesedays is reletivly small
December 14th, 2006, 03:20
JKKDARK

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Originally Posted by VampDude

GD's are outdated anyway, they were limited to 1.2gb which compared to games thesedays is reletivly small

They are not outdated. The Dreamcast and the Naomi are still using GD and there are new commercial games announced for the next year.
December 14th, 2006, 03:26
the_eternal_dark

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Originally Posted by JKKDARK

And you still don't understand. The format for the next games will not be GD's. I'm talking about compatibility with them. Also, the latest Dreamcast manufactured in the United States (After October 2000, I think) were unable to read CD's, it means that piracy was not a problem on these versions.

Sorry JKKDARK, what I meant was that I doubt that Sega would have the backwards compatibility with the GD media. And I do remember hearing about the 3rd (or 4th) version of the DC that would not play copied media, but it was rather low in numbers and had little impact. I am willing to bet that they would use a system like the Wii where you can just download the older games if you wanted.

As for proprietary media, I bet they would opt for a media in between HD DVD and Blu-Ray, maybe like a GD-DVD or something wierd that has like 3 or so layers and so encrypted and protected that piracy would only dream to touch it.

Cap'n 1time, you can also leave the GameCube's case off (bad) or if you are handy with a dremel, you can sand a space big enough for a full size DVD in the original case (can look bad, but works). I put many an emulator on mini DVDs. It was expensive, but worth it, up until the SDLoader came out (SNES and NES were compatable from loading off an SD card).
December 14th, 2006, 03:32
VampDude

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Originally Posted by JKKDARK

They are not outdated. The Dreamcast and the Naomi are still using GD and there are new commercial games announced for the next year.

not outdated to the fact games are still being released on the GD-ROM format, but to the disk size compared to those of other consoles they are kinda outdated as they can't hold as much - take ShenmueII for example, on DreamCast the game is on 3 disks, on Xbox it's on 1
December 14th, 2006, 03:33
the_eternal_dark

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Originally Posted by VampDude

not outdated to the fact games are still being released on the GD-ROM format, but to the disk size compared to those of other consoles they are kinda outdated as they can't hold as much - take ShenmueII for example, on DreamCast the game is on 3 disks, on Xbox it's on 1

And the Dreamcast version is still better...
December 14th, 2006, 03:37
VampDude

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Originally Posted by the_eternal_dark

And the Dreamcast version is still better...

I never doubted the DreamCast version, it's the only version I would ever touch cause the Xbox sucks!
December 14th, 2006, 03:39
JKKDARK

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Originally Posted by VampDude

not outdated to the fact games are still being released on the GD-ROM format, but to the disk size compared to those of other consoles they are kinda outdated as they can't hold as much - take ShenmueII for example, on DreamCast the game is on 3 disks, on Xbox it's on 1

And did you try both? Dreamcast version is a lot better.
Anyway, if you see the games released on the PlayStation 2 and the Dreamcast, the ones released on Dreamcast had better graphics. Some examples: Grandia 2, Dead Or Alive 2, Resident Evil Code: Veronica.
December 14th, 2006, 03:41
the_eternal_dark

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I never doubted the DreamCast version, it's the only version I would ever touch cause the Xbox sucks!

KOTOR I and II, Half-Life 2, Doom 3 (although Doom3 and Half-Life 2 were degraded to play on the XBox) were pretty good. There are a few more, but not many.

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And did you try both? Dreamcast version is a lot better.
Anyway, if you see the games released on the PlayStation 2 and the Dreamcast, the ones released on Dreamcast had better graphics. Some examples: Grandia 2, Dead Or Alive 2, Resident Evil Code: Veronica.

The PS2 was harder to program on, and it was way too overhyped. Plus many Sony fanboys cried for Code Veronica to be ported because they didn't want to buy the Dreamcast (pretty much like RE4 and the GC).
December 14th, 2006, 03:50
VampDude

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Originally Posted by JKKDARK

And did you try both? Dreamcast version is a lot better.
Anyway, if you see the games released on the PlayStation 2 and the Dreamcast, the ones released on Dreamcast had better graphics. Some examples: Grandia 2, Dead Or Alive 2, Resident Evil Code: Veronica.

nup, cause don't have an Xbox...

...and yeah I noticed with games that were originally on Dreamcast and got ported to PS2 that they dont look as good, CrazyTaxi is a good example of a poor conversion - well not poor but the DC version is graphicaly better

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