Homebrew a true utopian society?

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August 8th, 2006, 13:57
Xiaopang

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Originally Posted by 1003G1

You like saying "Make No Mistake" haha.
Pretty pointless article really. Nothing is gonna happen to the homebrew scene. It's not illegal so Sony or anyone else can't do anything aboot it. They can make threats all they want but all they will be doing is providing us with something to laugh at.
I wish everyone would stop being so dramatic aboot the homebrew scene. Just keep everything leagal and we'll be fine.

absolutely right. they have better stuff to do than that
August 8th, 2006, 13:57
DPyro

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Originally Posted by Topknot

Its funny that because Nintendo/Sega etc havnt shown any concern over emulators on the PSP, things like DGEN and Snes tyl are considered acceptable while devhook is not despite the fact that devhook allows you to play your LEGAL umd's and DGEN DOES NOT ADD A CARTRIDGE SLOT TO THE PSP. Dont talk about illegally backed up UMD's for use with devhook, or even using LEGAL, proper UMD disks with devhook... talk all you want about illegally backed up game cartridges for use on an emulator.

Snes emulator emulating a SNES so you can play illegally ripped/downloaded cartridge roms, devhook emulating PSP firmware so you can legally use your store bought UMD disk or illegally ripped/downloaded copy of a game.

Thats exactly my view right there. Certainly its much easier for us to BACKUP our LEGAL UMDs than it is to backup our SNES/GBA/N64/Whatever. Therefor I don't think we should be saying the full version of Devhook is illegal (and therefor this site should host the full version of Devhook).

The views expressed in this post are of the posters, and does not represent the views of DCEmu
August 8th, 2006, 14:03
Accordion

of course that starts the debate over the morality of supporting new live consoles, and being able o take advantage over past consoles, which do not create new income for the producer...
except for nintendo of course, who rely on its back catlog for most of its sales...
August 8th, 2006, 14:44
doverkiller

readme

nothing will stop software privacy, until money-hungry firms want to ripoff us with crap..

I repeat NOTHING!!!
not even our pure soul, not even laws and stuff..

Anyone would love to buy genuine software, if they could afford it, AND (mostly) if the sotfware could hit THE QUALITY..

I've bought every single software what I've downloaded, used and realised it's damn great!!
I've bought every movies on DVD, what I saw in cinema or divx, and was amazing..

I've tested ISO games on my PSP, and many were crap..
I was wondering what if I've bought this game on UMD..
I would tear it into pieces.. :mad:

There are not even demos of PSP games (except the few)
We can see only video trailers, with minimal actual gameplay..

So don't ask me to buy UMDs blind for 1/4 price of a PSP..

well, this about the "dark side" of homebrew..
Please give this to the record..

Steve
August 8th, 2006, 14:47
Xiaopang

don't you mean the dark side of commercial psp games?
August 8th, 2006, 14:52
hempy

i agree with what u are saying...Too bad the article seems to have been writen by a below-average high school student. Learn how to write.
August 8th, 2006, 15:00
shadowprophet

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Originally Posted by hempy

i agree with what u are saying...Too bad the article seems to have been writen by a below-average high school student. Learn how to write.

Hmm.. For someone that seems to know about writing, You would think you wouldn't forget a rule as simple as to start a sentence out with a capital, especially when that letter is I... Go figure..
August 8th, 2006, 15:06
Milleniumas

WTF, i won't buy any f*cking psp game couse it costs half price of psp (yea that's true in our country). F*ck any game original that is legal and it's fun to play in our country costs like 1/5 of all the average payout. Just f*ck up sony and all the companies, but this is just insane!. Piracy here I come ! (in our country average payout is 1000 and the game costs 189.99, psp you can buy from other country just for ~500, in shops our it's 999).
August 8th, 2006, 15:07
Xiaopang

lol how ridiculous can you get...who cares for capital writing...it's a forum for god sakes and not a newspaper...btw, he is right. the article wouldn't qualify for a magazine...
August 8th, 2006, 15:10
Panini

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Originally Posted by Topknot

While I agree with many points within your article, I find it fairly trite. Especially this:

"realize that things like iso loaders that load commercial software do a lot more then encourage one to download illegal warez (stolen commercial property) They damage our scene buy putting us in the hot seat. all that needs to be done to shut any site down is some mistake to be caught under that micro scope and a cease and desist order from some corporation and poof, the scene is no more.."

It cannot be hard for an educated person to see that if ISO loaders promote people to download sony ISO's then by that rational emulators promote people to go download commercial roms. I dont doubt that over 90% of the people here (and thats being generous) have no idea on how to legally back up a snes cartridge, I am fairly certain everyone here downloads MAME roms because lets face it, if your using MAME where are you legally getting your rom backups from. Open BOR promotes people to go download paks with artwork and characters from commercial games illegally, not to mention the countless amounts of homebrew using commercial artwork within it.

What would happen if Nintendo begin issuing cease and desist orders on sites serving out emulators once they get the virtual console thing going on the Wii? Will all of a sudden emu's be the "evil" side of the scene? I should be able to play EVERY newest game available for the PSP without losing functionality. Devhook, is a damn godsend for homebrew users end of story. Otherwise 1.5ers would be sitting playing illegal SNES games or Genesis games, or GBA games, etc, etc, etc.

Its funny that because Nintendo/Sega etc havnt shown any concern over emulators on the PSP, things like DGEN and Snes tyl are considered acceptable while devhook is not despite the fact that devhook allows you to play your LEGAL umd's and DGEN DOES NOT ADD A CARTRIDGE SLOT TO THE PSP. Dont talk about illegally backed up UMD's for use with devhook, or even using LEGAL, proper UMD disks with devhook... talk all you want about illegally backed up game cartridges for use on an emulator.

Snes emulator emulating a SNES so you can play illegally ripped/downloaded cartridge roms, devhook emulating PSP firmware so you can legally use your store bought UMD disk or illegally ripped/downloaded copy of a game. This site, and MANY others needs to stop kidding itself on this subject, you hide behind no piracy in regards to sony matters because they activly issues cease and desists over it but you act like pirating SNES/GENESIS games is morally better? And why? Well it seems like its because Sony are the only peolpe throwing legal threats about.

I wonder if Nintendo made a press release tomorrow stating they actually dont like SNES emu's or people downloading the games they plan on distributing via the Wii's virtual console, would we see an article on emulators part in the "dark side" of our scene?

This article and any claims of anti piracy is a joke and hippocritical in the eyes of anyone with an IQ over 100 and yet I just know that a) some mod or site admin is going to give some reason why emulators dont actually encourage people to load google up and type in "SNES roms" and yet devhook activly encourages people to go on a torrent site and type in "PSP games".. and b) a slew of ignorant asskissers will get offensive in there posts about this.

If you ask me, articles like this and hippocritical actions by sites are the "evil side" of homebrew...

This guy makes alot of sense! :D

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