Save Lik Sang!

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Originally Posted by Joe88

F9zDark
just give it up
its over

stop trying to "pwn" me
its not working

and btw im 20
I dont live in the fantasy world that you live in.
I live in the real world. I go to college, I have a job and a car.

flamming you is just pointless.
im not gonna stoup down to your level and lame like an idiot with no reason.
Its obvious that your an incoherent idiot who thinks he can get his way.

Ive already sent pm to mods asking them to lock this thread.

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Incoherent? Right. If you even spent 1 semester in college you'd have carried yourself in a more respectful and intelligent manner.

And would have basic knowledge of how to prove a point thoughtfully, without resorting to your trollish behavior.

I don't live in a fantasy world either; which is why I am trying to make it known that Sony's behavior will not be tolerated.

A man of an education would hear the voice of reason and take a step back and think for a minute.

The repercussions of eliminating free trade of consoles to Europe are extreme. Ones you may not have to deal with, and as per the American way, 'Outta sight, outta mind'. But I have more respect for our European friends than that. Wraggster wrote about his views on the issue as well, because he is from the UK and it affects him entirely.

Not only that, this decision affects this website: DCEmu had a great affiliation with Lik-Sang, and Lik-Sang has helped the Homebrew Scene (for PSP as far as I know, maybe they have done more for the DS Homebrew scene and DC Homebrew scene, of that I am unaware). So the repercussions are felt here as well: the second prize for the Coding Grand Prix was a Nintendo DS courtesy of Lik-Sang.

If you do not wish to debate, discuss, or even state your opinion in a way that doesn't involve insulting other people, then what business do you have here?

Honestly, I have yet to see a single post in this thread from you that leads any credence to your cause or point; yet I see countless flames from you and MUDD.

Don't start the fight, if you can't finish it...

I have already made my point
people have also join me , because after they read my post , they know that whole petition is full of crap and is a waste to everybody.

Also stop trying to insult me by saying I make no sense, I have the grammer skills oh a 8th grader ect...
I retain straight A's in my English class.
Much more then I can say for you.

Also what are you going to do with this petition ?
Send it to the court via email :P
lmao
send it to sony as a threat ?

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Originally Posted by Joe88

I have already made my point
people have also join me , because after they read my post , they know that whole petition is full of crap and is a waste to everybody.

Also stop trying to insult me by saying I make no sense, I have the grammer skills oh a 8th grader ect...
I retain straight A's in my English class.
Much more then I can say for you.

Also what are you going to do with this petition ?
Send it to the court via email :P
lmao
send it to sony as a threat ?

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Funny how you assume I have 'failed english' based on my impeccable spelling and grammar. And I don't care for your grades in english; community colleges are notorious for letting people, who shouldn't even have passed high school, graduate with an associate's degree.

The petition, may or may not do a damned thing, I admit that. But if you aren't planning on signing it, why do you care? If you feel its a waste of time why are you in here baiting others and purposefully starting flame wars?

If you don't agree with this petition, then state your opinion and leave the thread.

Because you are just giving people false hope.
There is nothing you can do or anyone for that mater that can change it.
Lik-sang is gone.
Theres plenty of other online retailers.
People have already moved on.

And I really do not care what your situation with the PS3. I live in the US. I wont even be getting one so it doesnt even concern me.

Hey guys, this is an emulation forum. Not a fight forum ;)

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Originally Posted by F9zDark

Incoherent? Right. If you even spent 1 semester in college you'd have carried yourself in a more respectful and intelligent manner.

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If you have been to college you would know better than that. In the real world there are idiots everywhere.

I'm going to chalk the first part of what's been happening here up to a healthy argument. If either of you two keep it up, all involved will be warned and we might need to lock this.

Yea, im not arguing anymore
thats it for me

some people are just too thickheaded ... :)

Good job. I thought it would take at least an hour for anyone to keep it up.

[sigh]

I'd like to support this, but I can't for two reasons:

1. an Internet petition of this nature won't do the least bit of good in influencing a judge. The ruling has been passed, for one. Also, Lik-Sang defaulted on the ruling by not responding. Additionally, Lik-Sang has already shut down. It's too late. Even if the ruling were reversed, they won't magically be able to undo everything the company has already done in terms of dismantling itself. It wouldn't be practical for them.

2. This is a very poorly written petition. It sounds amateurish, and doesn't even address the issues that any *successful* argument would be built around. Essentially what this says is "reverse your ruling because Sony's a big meanie and we like Lik-Sang." Doesn't work that way.

There IS legal ground to work with: first, issues of jurisdiction. Second, issues of parallel trade, import and export legislation, and whether the argument of "intellectual property" even applies to a case like this.

Those are all significant, winnable legal arguments, and are exactly what is at issue here. However, none of those points were even MENTIONED in this petition, let alone discussed *competently*. This thing just comes across as fanboy rambling.

Sorry, but somtimes constructive criticism is necessary. Stuff like this won't help the cause or the scene. If something like this is going to be pursued, it needs to be done right. Just because something has a good cause at heart doesn't mean it's a good idea, or that it's being done the right way.

Now, if someone actually researched the relevant legislation to make a DETAILED, SPECIFIC *LEGAL* case (the court's job IS to interpret matters of law, after all ;)), and draft a new, better organized petition--something more than just an Internet sign-up sheet--then maybe there would be something to get behind.

It still wouldn't revive Lik-Sang, but it would help prevent more things like this from happening in the future.

I signed the petition but I must say that I feel it is aimed at the wrong people. It seems to me that a petition to Sony Computer Entertainment of Europe would be much more effective. Like it of not, the High Court of London doesn't have the ability to repeal a verdict based on a petition sent to them.

However, it might be a good idea to send the petition to Lik Sang themselves so that they can use it in the way of evidence to contest Sony and the verdict that they were awarded. Also, sending a copy to Sony Computer Entertainment of Europe to show the outrage that is felt by the gaming community might not be a bad idea.

I think that this petition is a good idea, but I think it should be used somewhat differently than what the author originally intended.