Is Piracy a Big Factor in Todays Consoles

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by damienarcangel

ASSCLOWNS

---

ha ha. That's classic.

Anyway, back to playing my Tekken: Dark Resurrection ISO.

First and foremost, I will state the obvious: The more person knows, the higher chance of piracy there will be.

For instance, I can gurantee that most newer computer users do not know how to pirate games, etc.

But there are two things, that I believe, are working against this.

I have seen that as time moves on, people who use computers 'know less' about them, because more and more things become 'one click away'. Growing up with DOS and learning the ways of that have certainly give many people an edge over late bloomers to the computer world. I think that probably a huge number of pirates fall into this category; people growing up with computer systems that required knowledge and know how to operate.

However, while this would be a limiting factor in the growth of hackers and pirates, the accessibility of information on the web, directly combats this. The internet makes available information that would have never been accessible before.

Learning how to pirate software has, thus, become 'one click away'. As computer systems became simpler, the internet began growing exponentially.

Thus, I feel, that there is no way to chart the growth of piracy on any system accurately and attribute a true cause to it.

Now, with that said, I personally believe, that piracy hurts developers, not consoles. When someone pirates a game, who hurts the most? None of the huge corporations who make consoles are feeling the pain as badly as the people who developed the software.

When the company who produced the software ends up the victim of piracy, the developers are the ones who suffer the most; which is sad really, they do the most work to see the game to its completion, and get ****ed the hardest because of piracy. The CEOs and Executives still get to sit in their posh offices, smoking cuban cigars, while they hand out pink slips to the ones who got them there , because of falling profits.

If there is an moral reason not to pirate, it is because hard working individuals like you or I suffer from it the most. Its not like it was back in the day, when pirates actually stole from the rich and affluent.

Sony itself doesn't hurt from piracy, but its always expendable employees do. The ones that actually work hard for Sony's benefit.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by F9zDark

First and foremost, I will state the obvious: The more person knows, the higher chance of piracy there will be.

For instance, I can gurantee that most newer computer users do not know how to pirate games, etc.

But there are two things, that I believe, are working against this.

I have seen that as time moves on, people who use computers 'know less' about them, because more and more things become 'one click away'. Growing up with DOS and learning the ways of that have certainly give many people an edge over late bloomers to the computer world. I think that probably a huge number of pirates fall into this category; people growing up with computer systems that required knowledge and know how to operate.

However, while this would be a limiting factor in the growth of hackers and pirates, the accessibility of information on the web, directly combats this. The internet makes available information that would have never been accessible before.

Learning how to pirate software has, thus, become 'one click away'. As computer systems became simpler, the internet began growing exponentially.

Thus, I feel, that there is no way to chart the growth of piracy on any system accurately and attribute a true cause to it.

Now, with that said, I personally believe, that piracy hurts developers, not consoles. When someone pirates a game, who hurts the most? None of the huge corporations who make consoles are feeling the pain as badly as the people who developed the software.

When the company who produced the software ends up the victim of piracy, the developers are the ones who suffer the most; which is sad really, they do the most work to see the game to its completion, and get ****ed the hardest because of piracy. The CEOs and Executives still get to sit in their posh offices, smoking cuban cigars, while they hand out pink slips to the ones who got them there , because of falling profits.

If there is an moral reason not to pirate, it is because hard working individuals like you or I suffer from it the most. Its not like it was back in the day, when pirates actually stole from the rich and affluent.

Sony itself doesn't hurt from piracy, but its always expendable employees do. The ones that actually work hard for Sony's benefit.

---

well said

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Ichijoe

That's funny 'cause I do and would! So you think that it's wrong to swipe a current 'Program' but, if you can not leagly obtain said 'Program' it's ok to swipe it. So by your argument it's ok to 'swipe' Windows 2000 Professional. 'cause nobody uses it / Microsoft don't support it no more. Congratulations by your own argument you just joined your own Assclown Club!

Stealing is Stealing PERIOD! The last I knew Copyrights had a Lifespan of around 99 Years. I'd have yet to see any Program that was no longer any such protections! Given that the Industry is only like what? 30 some odd years old (With Pong)?!

---

Ok buddy first off theres no reason to get your G-string in a twist and turn it into a &-string. I mean if you didn't shoot your colon out of your ass by getting so wound up, you came pretty damn close. With that being said, pop a couple of Mydol and chill out. No I'm not saying its "OK" to swipe Windows 2000. I am infact saying that swiping Windows 2000 is not such a "big factor" as say Swiping Windows XP 64-bit. Im saying that companies like Microsoft should put more emphasis on stopping people that swipe Windows XP 64-bit than just trying to get rid of pirating in general. So maybe I did join my own assclown club, thanks for the induction. The whole topic here is- Is piracy a big factor in today's consoles? Not-Is piracy morally or ethically wrong? I think everyone here agrees that its wrong, but just to different extents.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Faith

And, Psyberjock is that you in you're avatar?

---

Of course it is! =)

I was going for a crazy fun-loving look. What do you think?

so does everyone just look the other way when piratinggames from atari and nintendo and sega and SNES... PEOPLE!!! either embrace teh fact that youre a pirater, or stop using emulators. the truth of the matter is that anybody who uses snes or wahtever on their psp is pirating the game at one level or another. the original carts did not come with counter-parts so that you sould hook them up to your pc and rip the software off of the cart. it truely is funny how people despise iso loading adn the such, but gg on the new release of the GBA emu. talk about irony when in most EULA's it talks about how software on the machine is only supposed to be used in a certain way (not a fact to my knowledge... who reads those, but trying to make a point) there cannot be good and bad piracy, just like how there cannot be good and bad killing. its all bad. but if you do it, you should call yourself that. if you lie, youre a liar. if you cheat, youre a cheater. so whats with the grey area with snes or even neogeo vs. psp iso? **** this semantics BS and lets just chill on everyone who has something to put into the hacking of psp or whatever system (sepending on what part of the site youre on)

also, i do agree with an earlier post that dealt with how the little guy always gets it in the end while the presidents and CEOs at the top barely feel a breeze. i feel for you guys. however, if you feel that way about your own company, where is the sence of loyalty towards you or you towards it? my opinion is that if you feel that way about your own job... that you feel like the people you work for are lifeless fat heads that enjoy making profit from blood and sweat of other people... find new employment. it didnt wok for nazi's, saying how they were just following orders, so dont be a part of the problem, be a part of the solution.

if you feel that piracy is a threat to your exsistance as a part of the gaming community, the its time for you to act upon it. its like spanking a kid whe they act out of order. quit developing games and see hwo the consumer likes it. dont give us more, give us less. but idiots still cling to their money like a baby latching onto a tit.

grow up. fight for your side. give em hell.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by FullGore

I don't think piracy can be problematic. Totally the oposite. Since I can't rent any games at my country, when a game comes out either I REALLY know that the game ain't gonna dissapoint me or I download a pirated version of it just to check it out.
This way is the safest to know what to buy and where not to waste money.
Unfortunately, I've made lots of mistakes in terms of buys. The last one was Monster Hunter for the psp. Imo the game is really mediocre. Tested it and threw it into the box again. Such situations can be easily avoided.

---

I have to disagree with that. I have the Japanese version and I've spent over a hundred hours playing it. Its amazing and the first monster hunter game I've played so far. You just have to invest the time to get past the learning portion of the game. Give it another chance. I also suggest ripping it to your memory stick to reduce your load times. It makes a huge difference.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by damienarcangel

Yeah maybe I could go on Ebay and buy a copy of Chrono Trigger for $80 but is that really feasible, even in Sony or Nintendo's eyes? Probably not. I believe piracy is a factor in some cases and in some cases its not. Am I hurting Sony's case by playing Final Fantasy VI on my Snes emulator? Probably not. But is some assclown hurting Sony's case by downloading a copy of Grand Theft Auto LCS and playing it without buying the game? Of course. These assclowns are what we should be worried about being a "big factor" not generalize every person who uses their PSP for something beside playing "Sony-made" software on it.

---

In Nintendo's eyes you're the biggest "assclown" of them all. You steal their game without even buying their console. Not only are you stealing their licensed game, you're not even paying for their hardware to play the stolen game.

Just because you try to keep people from stealing stuff from Wal-Mart all day does not make you an angel. Besides that, your experience in loss prevention can hardly be compared to internet piracy. People who download something are not neccessarily the same people who steal things from Wal-Mart.

Think about your arguments a little more then come back to us. You can't confess to and condemn piracy in the same message. That's a very "assclown" thing to do.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Psyberjock

In Nintendo's eyes you're the biggest "assclown" of them all. You steal their game without even buying their console. Not only are you stealing their licensed game, you're not even paying for their hardware to play the stolen game.

Just because you try to keep people from stealing stuff from Wal-Mart all day does not make you an angel. Besides that, your experience in loss prevention can hardly be compared to internet piracy. People who download something are not neccessarily the same people who steal things from Wal-Mart.

Think about your arguments a little more then come back to us. You can't confess to and condemn piracy in the same message. That's a very "assclown" thing to do.

---

That a pure +1 if I ever saw One!

shinysuitman makes a good point ,this site and most ppl here have emus and the roms to go with them but wont call it piracy ,when it totally is.so **** it who cares ,in this forum it really dont matter

i was on gamespot and they have a link to a download site for everything psp ,are these sites legal? and if not then please explain why there linked tp piracy on what appears could be on a wide scale. i was just wondering about this .

now that im looking around about the subject instead of just being a part of it ,i have to say i dont thnk piracy is controlled by the pirate ,its controlled by the corp yes men .i think sony knew it would be the best and greatest toy in the world for allot of ppl and are more than happy with the way things are going.

i know nothing is as it seems in life and you really have to take a big picture and think for yourself .you really have to be in your later years or really smart ,im just old (lol).
.im a pirate and im proud .i wasnt like this untill this post was started now i cant belive i cared at all or felt bad at times ,but not anymore so TY dcemu .