Wii Homebrew Loader Channel & SNES Channel - NO TIME LIMITS

The 2 channels available for Wii that come with a time limit have been modified to remove this limitation.
It has been done by Superken7 and me.

SNES Channel ISO

Homebrew Loader Channel Installer ELF

If any other channel is released with a time limit, it will be removed with the tool specially made for it ;)


EDIT: To make this posible, find the "ticket" seccion, and you will find the time limitation there. Remove it, resign with our tool(not provided) and thre you will hace a channel w/out time limit.
If you don't beleve me, that's your problem. Keep using Zelda to load homebrew; I've got my own channel, much faster.

"The file is invalid or Corrupt."

Thats what I get when trying to open it with Winrar or PowerISO. All my iso files normally open fine...

Burn the ISO to a DVD using ImgBurn and pop it in to the Wii. Update, and there you will have the new Channel.

Oh, and Wii ISO's never open with Winrar or anything else than Trucha Signer or others.

You fail... What a freaking fake.

i won't believe this until someone that i know is a coder post this, or until wraggster or someone else post this on the front page.

or atleast until someone is stupid enough to try this and gives us a confirmation that this works.

until that happens i will call this one a big friggin !!!!FAKE!!!!

If you can read Spanish, go to the web site where it was first published: http://www.elotrolado.net/hilo_Homeb...5?pagenumber=1

You will see the famous Waninkoko there too.
I haven't got time for fakes.

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Originally Posted by Jay_PaRaDoX

Burn the ISO to a DVD using ImgBurn and pop it in to the Wii. Update, and there you will have the new Channel.

Oh, and Wii ISO's never open with Winrar or anything else than Trucha Signer or others.

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Originally Posted by Jay_PaRaDoX

If you can read Spanish, go to the web site where it was first published: http://www.elotrolado.net/hilo_Homeb...5?pagenumber=1

You will see the famous Waninkoko there too.
I haven't got time for fakes.

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i still don't want to try it until someone tries it and CONFIRM that it works right here on DCEmu.

EDIT: shadowblind, it seems that you are trying to install this, can you please telle us if it works or not (if you decide to try it of course;))

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Originally Posted by ____anders____

i still don't want to try it until someone tries it and CONFIRM that it works right here on DCEmu.

EDIT: shadowblind, it seems that you are trying to install this, can you please telle us if it works or not (if you decide to try it of course;))

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Want a confirmation?
Take this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J70JB_TTMw

If you still don't beleve it, go away and don't come back :)

ah, ok now i believe you:)
but can i remove it for a future update?

EDIT: and why is it an ELF file? do i have to burn it to a dvd or can i use TP exploit to intall it?
EDIT 2: i translated the link you gave me before with babelfish and they say that you can remove the channel just like any one else, in options menu..

i think i'm gonna try this now.. shit i have butterflies with this..XD

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it works! haha thanks, you're tha man! ;)

I told you :D

Haven't got time for fakes, no one should xD

hehe, thanks again :)
works like a charm :)

EDIT: if you somehow want to remove it, it shows up as ??? in the channels settings.

EDIT 2: how come all homebrew is in black and white?
i've tried to switch between 60hz and 50hz modes, but no luck, it isn't in black and white if i boot zelda TP and do the exploit.. any help?
i know my tv won't accept NTSC signals, maybe that's why..

I'm in Spain, Wii set to 50Hz and it's all in color.

ok.. so it's a PAL wii just like mine..
the GBC emu is in color and so is everything else exept the other emulators, the snes emu is in color if i run it from Zelda though so i guess that something is wrong here..

but thanks again, sry for doubting ;) finally i don't have to run zelda everytime, and i can play on my real savegame..
and i just borrowed zelda from a friend too:) haha so i was waiting for this.

I was skeptical at first, but wow. It works! so convenient, many kudos to you guys :)

the only thing though, is the black screen. but thats okay

edit: 15 minutes gone by, still working =o

I'm not touching this with a 6 foot stick, until I hear from the person that made the channel. If they added the limit or purpose (which aparently they did), who are you to say it's not there for a reason?

The time limit was there for a reason: Prevent the bugs that exist make people think it's a bad channel.

Personally I hate having to boot up Zelda, etc... so I decided to remove the time limit. It's all working 100% fine for me.
I've talked with the creators of the original channel, and they aren't very happy with this, but they can't do anything about it.

Wow, that's nice. I'll go ahead and wait for their's then.

confirmed, 100% functunal, im no coder, im just a "leecher", but 2 tries and i got it, don't make the .elf the boot.elf, it wont work, just load it with another loader, it will install, reboot, load, no bugs ,works, thx man! you are the greatest!

in that case, think I'll stay with the traditional method until it's officially released. =/

I highly recommend this, because when booting homebrew with the channel instead of using the Twilight hack, the DVD motor isn't always spinning. And I'm afraid that having it constantly spinning *might* damage the system.

The original authors may not like the fact that the time limit has been removed, but I still highly respect them for their accomplishment, and will gladly use their official version when it comes out.

I'm switching to this for now, though, because I have a tendency to leave my consoles on overnight, and if having the dvd motor on that long causes any damage, I don't want it to happen.

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Originally Posted by trelantana

I highly recommend this, because when booting homebrew with the channel instead of using the Twilight hack, the DVD motor isn't always spinning. And I'm afraid that having it constantly spinning *might* damage the system.

The original authors may not like the fact that the time limit has been removed, but I still highly respect them for their accomplishment, and will gladly use their official version when it comes out.

I'm switching to this for now, though, because I have a tendency to leave my consoles on overnight, and if having the dvd motor on that long causes any damage, I don't want it to happen.

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i totally agree with you :) except i don't leave my wii on over the night, but i also think it *can* cause damage to your wii if the drive is spinning all the time, or atleast it will shorten the life-span of your drive, so imho USE THIS ONE it rules! :D

EDIT: and if you care more about the authors of the original "limited" channel than your wii, then go ahead boot zelda everytime..

I had read somewhere that the reason the authors originally put a time limit on the channel was because they wanted to see how Nintendo would react first, as there's the possibility that they could release an update that bricks the Wii if there are 'unfamiliar' channels on the system.

That's why I'm still going to use this channel without the limiter, but I'm setting my Wii to use a dummy or invalid internet connection until either the official unlimited channel comes out or Nintendo does release such an update.

So if you use the channel, be careful, as the TP Hack team may have had a more considerate reason to put a limiter on the original release than one would think.

but still, i always read here or somewhere else before i decide to update my wii, to see if they block anything, like the TP exploit or something else..

EDIT: btw, mario kart wii RULES! :)
got it 2 days ago, leaked..

I honestly don't care how well it works (I wouldn't even care if it booted a full speed PS2 emulator), and you guys shouldn't either. Fact is, he went against the wishes of people that actually put in their hard work making this channel, went in and changed a few lines of code, then came and posted it here so he can recieve the glory. This is how rivalries begin, and rivalries mean nothing good for the scene.

That's like if the iPod was in development for two years. Microsoft comes in, steals the design, and releases an unfinshed rip off 2 months before it's supposed to be released.

Another thing, he posted no warning what-so-ever. No one has any idea what this could do to your Wii at some point in time. Say a new channel comes out that you have to download. Maybe there's a bug in the homebrew channel that doesn't tell the Wii that channel slot is taken. It tries to stack the new channel on top... BRICK!!! Fact is, there's no way to prove that wrong yet.

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Jay_PaRaDoX: "The time limit was there for a reason: Prevent the bugs that exist make people think it's a bad channel."

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This is just stupid, and completely made up. The timer pissed more people off and caused more bashing then bugs ever would have. I promise you, the reason they added a timer is because they don't know what this has the possibility of doing in the long run.

People need some patience.

Just want to clarify some things:

1- I didn't just rewrite some lines of code. The ticket had to be resigned so it accepts the changes made to it.

2- I don't want any "glory" from anything. I could have changed the credits that are in the channel, but did I do it? NO.

3- It's based on the original channel, so if that "slot" you talk about bricks the Wii, it's not my fault.

4- Everyone is free to try it if they want. I'm not forceing anyone to do so.

5- I've personally spoken with marcan and bushing, explained everything to them. Sure they aren't very happy, but they were expecting it to happen anyway.

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Originally Posted by DimensionT

I honestly don't care how well it works (I wouldn't even care if it booted a full speed PS2 emulator), and you guys shouldn't either. Fact is, he went against the wishes of people that actually put in their hard work making this channel, went in and changed a few lines of code, then came and posted it here so he can recieve the glory. This is how rivalries begin, and rivalries mean nothing good for the scene.

That's like if the iPod was in development for two years. Microsoft comes in, steals the design, and releases an unfinshed rip off 2 months before it's supposed to be released.

Another thing, he posted no warning what-so-ever. No one has any idea what this could do to your Wii at some point in time. Say a new channel comes out that you have to download. Maybe there's a bug in the homebrew channel that doesn't tell the Wii that channel slot is taken. It tries to stack the new channel on top... BRICK!!! Fact is, there's no way to prove that wrong yet.



This is just stupid, and completely made up. The timer pissed more people off and caused more bashing then bugs ever would have. I promise you, the reason they added a timer is because they don't know what this has the possibility of doing in the long run.

People need some patience.

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First off, this works fine, 2nd its none of your buisness what other ppl do, 3rd If they didnt want this, they should have not made it so obvious that you can with skill remove the timer, finaly I don't do updates, or many channels, so don't tell me that it will brick my wii... thank you!

I know this isn't the right place, but I have searched and searched for the answer and I know you guys can help me. Whenever I try to burn the snes image in imgburn it comes up with invalid or unsupported image error. I tried burning this in clone cd, but the wii didn't recognize the disk. I was about to build the iso in imgburn and then burn, but I am on my last dvd+r and I don't want to waste it. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Whatever, you guys do what you want. Piss off whichever ground breaking coders you want. Use whatever unpredictable homebrew you want. Because it's obvious none of you are willing to wait. Seriously...

I want you guys to see what the scene turns into with crap like this making the headlines. Just remember, the people that endorce it don't have the right to cry when coders like the ones who made this channel refuse to update their work. Respect is what makes giving you guys free games, emulators and hacks worth while.

I know damn well I wouldn't release anything if I knew someone would just hack into it. Making it do things I didn't want or wasn't ready for it to do.

I'm sorry, but that's just bullshit on so many levels.

Dang, I leave for one day, and I miss something. :p

I have to agree with DimensionT here actually. I would say more, but I don't feel like it.

Jay, you are cool, thx man :)

yeah, but still i give all credits to the original authors, but i will say thanks anyway ;)

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Originally Posted by DimensionT

I know damn well I wouldn't release anything if I knew someone would just hack into it. Making it do things I didn't want or wasn't ready for it to do.

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Erm...not that I want to be argumentative...and also, I respect your wishes to do what you want...but this line here...

...Why are you into the homebrew scene if you don't agree to this?I mean, the entire basis of homebrew (For console/handhelds, anyway) is hacking into the console to make it run unsigned code that the console devs never intended for it to run. I'm sorry, but what you say here is just somewhat hypocritical, coming from someone who seems to hang around a homebrew fansite.

On the subject of respecting the original coders of the project... I'm all for respecting them; were I a programmer I would never steal their code and put it into my own programs. However, as an end-user, I just go for the programs that provide the most convenience and use to me. I understand the dangers of running this Homebrew channel without the time limit, and I accept the dangers. It's my responsibility if my anxiety causes me to get my Wii bricked, and I wouldn't blame the coders of the original Wii Homebrew Channel if anything went wrong.

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Originally Posted by mogwaimon

However, as an end-user, I just go for the programs that provide the most convenience and use to me.

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This is what bugs me most about the people around here now a days. They all want want want, and don't care about what needs to be done for them to get it. Then once they get it, they don't give a damn about the scene until the next big thing happens.

What you said about hacking into the console is somewhat right... But that in no way makes my hypocritical.

Look at it this way. Nintendo doesn't want people running homebrew, what do they do? Fix it. Coders don't want people hacking their programs, what do they do? Stop making them.

Both of these are bad for the scene. One of them is within our control (I'll let you guess which one).

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This is what bugs me most about the people around here now a days. They all want want want, and don't care about what needs to be done for them to get it. Then once they get it, they don't give a damn about the scene until the next big thing happens.

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Admittedly, I'm a bit like this, unless something that interests me is going on in the scene, such as a new SNES emulator release for PSP or some such, I usually don't do much with homebrew.

However, I also don't go around bugging the coders of said projects to go and add features in that they don't intend to add, nor do I rush them like others do with a 'It's been 2 days since last I asked, when is the next release?' or some such. I figure that I'm merely using the program; my input has little bearing on the final product, and I AM getting it for free, so I'm grateful for that.

As for the difference between Big N and coders you cited in your post, I had a reply typed out, but it made me look like a fool, so I don't think I'm gonna leave it in XD Long story short; hacking is a part of programming that all programmers must deal with.

I'll abstain from the project as well as getting too much into bickering about this. There are coders who are well known in this scene and whose work I respect. There are coders in this scene who aren't that well known (at least to me) and I'm skeptical to try their work. I've used some of vicious' apps and really appreciate his hard work. As for this release...I just see it as going against the wishes of some people who have really launched the Wii homebrew scene. I may not know their reasons for the time limit, but I'll trust they had good ones. I'll wait for an official release.

I do however also want to say that I fully encourage people to dive into this stuff and play around with the code. I think it's a great way to learn and a great way to contribute.

One last thing, in my opinion it's a total load to say that you're going to use this so you don't burn out your DVD motor. If you were really that concerned about your Wii, you wouldn't be screwing with third party software in the first place, especially while it's still in its infancy. While a benefit of using this might be stopping your DVD motor, it doesn't come close to negating all the potential risks you run by using these hacks.

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Originally Posted by mogwaimon

hacking is a part of programming that all programmers must deal with.

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This is definitely true, they even do it in school. What you should be doing is posting bugs, little suggestions and waiting patiently, otherwise you can try to do one yourself.

Thank you to everyone who's been donating their time and skills to the Homebrew scene, you're all doing great work. Keep it up. :)

Two quick questions. First, regarding the Twilight Hack. When the ELF Loader is finished loading the homebrew application, I take the disc out, and was just wondering if this was safe to do, or if it could actually damage the Wii somehow? Also, Jay_PaRaDoX, is it possible to make an ELF installer for the SNES channel? That's a channel I would actually be interested in using.

Regarding this thread, I pretty much agree with DimensionT and tehnoir. I don't discourage people from using these programs, but I, personally, will be waiting for an 'official' release from Team Twiizers. I have been following that ElOtroLado thread for the past few days, and, if I understand correctly, all you did was remove the ten minute limit, and left everything else the same. I believe the ten minute limit is there for a reason, and if they felt an unrestricted version was ready to be released, they would have done so. I also don't necessarily agree with hacking their work without consulting them, but there isn't much you can do about that anyway...

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Originally Posted by trelantana

I highly recommend this, because when booting homebrew with the channel instead of using the Twilight hack, the DVD motor isn't always spinning. And I'm afraid that having it constantly spinning *might* damage the system.

The original authors may not like the fact that the time limit has been removed, but I still highly respect them for their accomplishment, and will gladly use their official version when it comes out.

I'm switching to this for now, though, because I have a tendency to leave my consoles on overnight, and if having the dvd motor on that long causes any damage, I don't want it to happen.

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if you eject the zelda disk the motor stop and you can play elf

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Erm...not that I want to be argumentative...and also, I respect your wishes to do what you want...but this line here...

...Why are you into the homebrew scene if you don't agree to this?I mean, the entire basis of homebrew (For console/handhelds, anyway) is hacking into the console to make it run unsigned code that the console devs never intended for it to run. I'm sorry, but what you say here is just somewhat hypocritical, coming from someone who seems to hang around a homebrew fansite.

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here is the difference: there is a technical challenge in hacking a console to run unsigned code and access their peripheral as there is no official documentation

hacking the twiizer channel to remove the time limit when tool/technical stuff to uncrypt/recrypt Wii files has already been released is not

What you seem not to understand is that most (if not ALL) of the current Wii knowledge we have actually is due to the Twiizer team researches and releases


We, as developpers, only use the provided tools and library (thanks to libogc team, without them, homebrew developpment would not have been so easy), that's all and there is absolutely no magic in there

End-users often only see the final product and what it can bring to them personnally right NOW, but try to think on a longer period sometime...

What do you think would happen if they get sick of people hacking their work or harassing them with impatient request ?

So even if you see the interess actually, there is really no interess for anybody in doing such thing against the will of original authors