Windows CE.... :(

Hi! I recently got a dreamcast (With Windows CE symbol on the front) and im new to the homebrew scene.

The problem is, i can't find any info on Windows CE for dreamcast at all. I really want a Dreamcast enabled version of CE, but do i need a Keyboard? if not where can i find a copy?

Well unfortunetly getting a keyboard wont get you Windows CE working on your DC and Windows CE cannot be downloaded but if purchased big amounts of money i believe for the DC version as it was only being used to produce and make games

Eric

no. there is no such thing as Windows CE for the dreamcast at all. There is a development kit that allows you to create programs for the Dreamcast using Windows CE style-libraries. Basically programs that would run on Windows CE.

okay i forgot thanks man thats what it was i knew something had to do with Windows CE

[quote author=Vangar link=board=dcapp;num=1100493896;start=0#0 date=11/14/04 at 22:44:55]Hi! I recently got a dreamcast (With Windows CE symbol on the front) and im new to the homebrew scene.

The problem is, i can't find any info on Windows CE for dreamcast at all. I really want a Dreamcast enabled version of CE, but do i need a Keyboard? if not where can i find a copy?[/quote]

Hi & welcome to the scene :)

There's a linux port to DC - I haven't tested it until now but you can download it at www.DCHomebrew.org

So when it says its "compatable with windows CE" its not compatable at all (just the dev kit)? Is that written on all the DCs? It's very misleading.

PS: Ive tried the Linux port and it runs alright. (At least the start, no keyboard = A,B,X,Y only lol)

yes every dc has it written on it.

It's not misleading. Games with the "Powered by Windows CE" logo on them (Sega Rally, and a few others) run on Windows CE. Windows CE is included on the GD-ROMs. There's no GUI like the PocketPC version of WinCE, just DirectX and a few other core parts of Windows.

-Sam

Now im starting to understand. :)

Where can i get the windowsCE folder?

You'd need to rip it off a GD-ROM, which can't be discussed here. It's not available freely, and it's useless by itself anyway. There was one emulator that used it (sintendo), but that's about it.

-Sam

Edit: Now that I think about it, there was also a WinCE-based mp3 player. I can't remember what it was called. DreamAMP, maybe? You can't legally redistribute the Windows CE runtime, so there's really not a lot you can do with it. Best to steer clear of it and use KOS.

Edit #2: It's DC MP3 by Strat76, not DreamAMP, that runs on WinCE.

There were also Bigboy's emulators, DC64 and DreamSpec.

And Titanium Studios' leaked Quake port (which apparantly was given an official unofficial blessing to DCEmulation by idSoftware).

Most of what you need to know about Windows CE Dreamcast Kit and the DIrectX libraries available for it it's on this thread http://www.dcemu.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/...num=1085069574

I no know where catch the Windows CE? :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(do you know?

i thought that all of the games used windows ce along with direct x to render the games. i thought that's one of the reasons dc died cause xbox uses direct x as well so transfering dc games to xbox would be a cinch.

both of those points are completely wrong. I think there were at most 2 or 3 REAL (and when I say real I mean non-slideshow) games that used WinCE instead of katana, and they were fairly poor. For reference, it uses a stripped down version of DX 5, so it can't even really do much. In fact, KOS (even KOS 1.0) is probably more capable than WinCE for the DC.

I really don't know why they put the windows logo on the DC to begin with, but I always did find it interesting how at some point they changed it between "Compatible with WindowsCE" and "Designed for WindowsCE"

here is a list of all the games that use Wince on the dc
http://boob.co.uk/cgi-bin/ikonboard3...=1;t=1611;st=0

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4x4 Evolution(PAL, USA)
Armada(PAL, USA)
Atari Anniversary Edition(USA)
Space Griffon Blue Steel: Variable Formula(JAP)
Densya de Go 2(JAP)
Get!! Colonies(JAP)
Hidden & Dangerous(PAL, USA)
Jimmy Whites Snooker 2(PAL)
Midway's Greatest Arcade Hits Vol 1(PAL, USA)
Midway's Greatest Arcade Hits Vol 2(PAL, USA)
Nightmare Creatures II (PAL, USA)
Puzzle Bobble 4(AKA Bust-A-Move 4)
Railroad Tycoon II(PAL, USA)
Resident Evil 2
Sega Rally 2
South Park: Chefs Luv Shack(PAL, USA)
Spirit of Speed 1937(PAL, USA)
Starlancer(PAL, USA)
Super Runabout(JAP)
Super Runabout: San Francisco Edition
Super Robot Wars Alpha(JAP)
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six(PAL, USA)
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Rouge Spear(PAL, USA)
Tomb Raider Chronicles(PAL, USA)
Virtua Cop 2(JAP, USA)
Who Wants To Beat Up A Millionaire(PAL, USA)
Wild Metal(PAL, USA)
World Neverland Plus: The Olerud Kingdom Stories (JAP)
World Neverland 2 Plus: The Waktic Republic of Pluto (JAP)
Worms Armageddon(USA)
Worms World party(PAL, USA)


Unreleased Games:
Half-Life
Quake(Titanium Studios Port)
Defense COmmander(Titanium Studios Demo)
PBA Bowling 2001

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cyrus was getting a list for Icarus

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In fact, KOS (even KOS 1.0) is probably more capable than WinCE for the DC

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So you think KOS can support games like Half-Life DC (for example) ?
Because Half-Life is full-3D, and with KOS i never see a game like that (may be i must search again).

http://www.consolevision.com/members...r/console.html
have you not played trilinear stuff, Echo's Quest, Amanda the witch, Battle tanks etc

No, i never see this !

I'll check it out right now, thanks for the link DS69 :)

Yea, KOS has great support for 3D stuff, we just don't have coder's proficient in 3D game design.

more 3d homebrew games:
http://www.dcemu.co.uk/dcastle.shtml
http://www.dcemu.co.uk/dcpacman3d.shtml
http://www.dcemu.co.uk/revolver.shtml
http://jimbomania.com/battery.html
http://www.dchomebrew.org/amanda.shtml
http://www.dchomebrew.org/3dinvaders.shtml
http://www.dchomebrew.org/asteroids.shtml
http://www.dchomebrew.org/armored.shtml
http://www.dchomebrew.org/echo.shtml
http://www.dchomebrew.org/epifighter.shtml
http://www.dchomebrew.org/highcube.shtml
http://www.dchomebrew.org/iris3d4games.shtml (4 3d games)
http://www.dchomebrew.org/iris3dsample.shtml
http://www.dchomebrew.org/psychobomber.shtml
http://www.dchomebrew.org/rocket.shtml
http://www.dchomebrew.org/savingflowers.shtml
http://www.dchomebrew.org/snake.shtml

ok that pretty much all the 3d HB games, ok not all have great graphic but there are some lookers there

I remeber this from when DC was "alive" Alot of people thought they could run CE on thier machines, this is not true. You could run Linux on the DC. I imagine the CE was only there to give the developers something to work with.

I wonder why theres still "Illigal, cant show you how to do this" for the Dreamcast when Sega has compeletly abandon their system. If anything I bet their glad we still find ways to keep them runnng lol.