UnOfficial? gpSP kai jp 2.9 - GBA Emulator for PSP

Takka has released a new Unnoficial Version of Exophases excellent GBA Emulator for the PSP.

Now we suggest you just use Exophases Last Release which was from a few weeks ago for stability etc.

for the curious heres whats new in this Unnoficial Version:

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# Adding the clock indication/the battery remaining amount indication with the menu
# When ending it tried to reset to 222MHz
# When returning to the game from the menu, it tried the button inside the game
　(It returns being the point in time when the button is released)
# Adding the movement every of 5 lines with the R/L button when the selecting ROM and the like
# It depends on the information which was moved aside to BBS, around /mips_stub RTC. The correction of S
# Referring to the registry of PSP in the indicatory format of day and time
# 1.5 Folder name of business it corresponds to damage file non indication
# With BIOS of proper GBA/NDS starting possibility
# " The _ “was inserted in ROM name of the file name of statesave and between slot numbers
　Please rename the old statesave file
# Graphics of the menu/adding screen shot performance to setting of sound
　In the folder which with PNG RGB 24bit type sets with dir.cfg, it is retained at ROM file name + date time
# Adding the operation with the analog key at the time of the menu
# The modification of message.cfg/dir.cfg which is accompanied on description above
# In order to be easy to customize the menu screen, order of message was replaced
# Addition of the translation of message.cfg
# Adding reading [chitohuairu] to the menu
# It corresponds to non cryptographic [chito]
　As for format

direct_v? [chito] name AAAAAAAA DDDDDDDD

direct_v? With the identifier for non code, with v1 for PAR V1/V2 you can use the data before the encoding PAR V3 with v3
　AAAAAAAA operator cord/code/address and DDDDDDDD data
# Libpng is needed for the build from the source

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uh oh, didn't Exophase complain of knockoff of gpsp of his by other coders. As always though I respec good work and this is, undeniably, some good work.

Do we know if exophase gave permission this time? He said that he would get pissed off at any news site that posts a crappy unsupported version.

I say lets wait for exophase to get back on this one instead of jumping the gun ourselves. im pretty sure he will post here very soon.

Yeah, come on. Exophase was pissed. Let's respect the man's wishes please. Ask permission.

As i coder im all for inprovements, but it would be better for takka to go to exophase first and ask him if its okay to release a unofficial version......

Maybe even just work the inprovements into exophases most recent works and send it back to exophase, that way it will be part of a official release, and takka would aviod flamming as he's helping exophase directly. At least thats what i would do.

I don't see any inprovements to the emulators game compatibility or is it just me, seems he just inproved a bunch of menu stuff...

he mentioned if proper use of NDS BIOS, there might be a possibility of nintendo DS emulation

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he mentioned if proper use of NDS BIOS, there might be a possibility of nintendo DS emulation

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Yepp, in fact he modificated it so that you can launch GameCube games with it if you got a proper BIOS file. But they didn't translate that from his changelog. :eek:

Unfortunately, this is the nature of open source software. Some of the libraries that Exo uses in gpsp are licensed under the GPL, which means that he has to release the source to his project if he wants to use them.

This, in turn, means that anyone can take the source and build their own project around it, or just repackage it. Unfortunately, that's how it goes. Were there trademarks involved, then the new project would have to be released under a different name, but there aren't, so it doesn't.

That's the POINT of Open Source. Without that, the libraries (and indeed the compiler) wouldn't have existed to build the project in the first place.

However, if Exo's project is better and more stable, that's what people will use, and, generally speaking, it is and they do.

um... NDS emulation would be weird.. how would we use the touchy part? :P but anyway, i see no difference with this release and exos original, i am still going to use exo's until he releases a new one some time. i am totally fine with the one i am using tho, no probs wt it

also! game cube would sooooo nooottttt be stable at all on psp, but i hope there is some way that its posible... also the games would take up the whole memory stick, so i doubt its posible

it states that with the right bios, nds and cube is a possibility , yea, its possible, at maybe 2 fps and so many graphical glitches that it would be rendered unplayable . Anything is possible, its just how well it gets pulled off that matters

The problem isn't that, it's the guy doing stupid and pointless changes just to gain attention.

I mean, at least if it was USEFUL... and if his idea was to really HELP he'd contact Exophase instead of doing bananas like that.

I'd bet Exophase's going to close the source soon, or at least only give it to people he trusts...

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Originally Posted by SpooForBrains

Unfortunately, this is the nature of open source software. Some of the libraries that Exo uses in gpsp are licensed under the GPL, which means that he has to release the source to his project if he wants to use them.

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There are NO GPL licenses there... it's just zlib (zlib license, non-restrictive) and SDL (LGPL).

He might run into trouble with SDL if it's statically linked, but getting rid of SDL is easy.

Also he made the emulator open source because he wanted, not due to "libraries forcing it". If that was the case he wouldn't use said libraries in the first place.

Also, the part about NDS/Cube is completely off. There's NO WAY of emulating a DS with gpSP, well except most of it (since a small part is the GBA hardware). GameCUbe as it seems was someone joking or something...

The translation is probably wrong. Calm down people, NDS emulation is *-*NEVER*-* going to happen. Don't worry with dual screens or touch screens, you won't get 2FPS. It's like emulating a PS2 on an XBOX or better yet, emulating a Wii in a PS3 (although that last one is probably more feasible than NDS on PSP).

I think the possibility for such things would be swell, but lets not stray from the point that Exophase wasn't too impressed with unofficial versions of gpSP.

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Originally Posted by Tinnus

The problem isn't that, it's the guy doing stupid and pointless changes just to gain attention.

I mean, at least if it was USEFUL... and if his idea was to really HELP he'd contact Exophase instead of doing bananas like that.

I'd bet Exophase's going to close the source soon, or at least only give it to people he trusts...

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Agreed! Takka is just doing these updates for pure attention. If he were really serious about helping out he would ask exophase for his latest work and update his changes to there, then send it back to exophase for a final official release.....

These unofficial releases have been garbage. No offense to Takka but he is clearly not respecting the wishes of Exophase. I've seen first-hand how hard Exophase works on gpSP. Especially with the latest release, gpSP 0.9.

Now this release is claiming a "possibility" of NDS and Game Cube emulation? Get real.

Clearly stating the possibility of such things is just for attention and recognition.

The current official release from Exophase is fantastic. I will be staying with official releases. Get the official release here:

http://psp-news.dcemu.co.uk/gpsp-0-9...ed--46046.html

In previous versions of unofficial things have in fact been useful, I in fact remember exophase himself mentioning something was useful in the code that he would look into. Also as the source code is open (and hopefully it will stay that way) the only requirement of this person is to hopefully credit exophase on every release.

I am not knocking exophase, but even so, technically this coder is doing nothing wrong and shouldnt be looked scornfully upon. He is not stealing code and is not violating gpl unlike some coders, and sadly some that even visit dcemu.

I myself will use the official exophase release but you shouldnt bash this coder.

Also from what i read (and i might be wrong) he suggested support of the nds bios rom. Sounds like a feat, but he dosnt seem to even hint at emulating commercial roms. pre dec 2006 bluecrabs wonderfull port of the sega saturn emulator to the Dreamcast only emulated the the bios and nothing else (as far as i know) so it isnt exactly unheard of. I imagine the bios requires less of the hardware or processing power when compared to a commercial rom.

I've actually been using the kai 2.6 version of gpSP and found it to run more roms than gpSP09. *Shrugs* I just thought I should show some appreciation to Takka since everyone seems to be bashing on him/her and it’s worked great for me. Thanks!!!

I think ppl should just stick to the official releases this one is just pointless. By the way i really need help using the cheat function on gpSP 0.9 plz pm me or email me with some info on how ta use it.(i have read the readme and im still confused!)

I personally don't get what all the fuss is about. It's pretty clear this isn't exo's version, and exo can sit back sound in the knowledge that his version is better, or at least that these versions offer little of value to people, and that people will continue to use and enjoy his future releases. I know which of the two versions I use.

anyone know how to disable the sound on gpsp? coz i wna play yugi and listen to mp3's.

how to make this work on 3.03 OE-A ??

even i`m putting bios file whit EBOOT program says , there is no bios file on directory whit eboot ?

I have the some problem :(

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Originally Posted by Tinnus

Also, the part about NDS/Cube is completely off. There's NO WAY of emulating a DS with gpSP, well except most of it (since a small part is the GBA hardware). GameCUbe as it seems was someone joking or something...

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I will second here. That is totally nonsense to think we can run GameCube games with gpSP : i need to use an GBA emulator to run a GC emulator on my PSP, totally crazy !

Hmm... maybe he was suggesting using the GBA BIOS included in the NDS for some reason... (compatibility?)

Blah, someone who knows japanese should translate that properly instead of relying on automatic translators :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Tinnus

Hmm... maybe he was suggesting using the GBA BIOS included in the NDS for some reason... (compatibility?)

Blah, someone who knows japanese should translate that properly instead of relying on automatic translators :rolleyes:

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Now THAT would make sense.

I'm not going to use thi, come on guys give respect to Exo.

Sounds like a good release, he added joystick support when using the menu and fixed the annoying bug where if you press X to leave the menu the game uses it as input.

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Originally Posted by adamos22

how to make this work on 3.03 OE-A ??

even i`m putting bios file whit EBOOT program says , there is no bios file on directory whit eboot ?

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The official release works perfect on 3.03 OE-A. I can personally confirm this.

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Originally Posted by SpacemanSpiff

Sounds like a good release, he added joystick support when using the menu and fixed the annoying bug where if you press X to leave the menu the game uses it as input.

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Exophase was aware of the game registering the input when exiting from menu but was more focused on compatibility and performance with the official release.

That is something that Exophase can fix in a final release (1.0) where things like that can be tweaked to perfection. There are quite a few optimizations that Exophase had wanted to implement ;)

i like Takka's release.
For instance we can define a default ROM folder and gpsp will open it by default and all sorts of small tweaks.
Besides i don't understand something, if Exo doesn't want any unofficial versions, why does he release the source?
Later,

TSR

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Originally Posted by Veskgar

The official release works perfect on 3.03 OE-A. I can personally confirm this.



Exophase was aware of the game registering the input when exiting from menu but was more focused on compatibility and performance with the official release.

That is something that Exophase can fix in a final release (1.0) where things like that can be tweaked to perfection. There are quite a few optimizations that Exophase had wanted to implement ;)

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i know , official release is working perfectly , but this soft is`nt work : (

QJ *cough, bad taste in the mouth just then* has took this release off their site, and made a newspost about taking it off.

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Originally Posted by Vega

QJ *cough, bad taste in the mouth just then* has took this release off their site, and made a newspost about taking it off.

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Hooray!

OK, I've just gone and checked the source package for gPSP 0.8 (upon which this is based). If you look under copying.doc you will find that Exophase has licensed the source code under the GNU General Public License.

This means that Takka's release is ENTIRELY LEGITIMATE. The only condition he needs to adhere to is that he must also release the source code to his derivative work WHICH HE HAS DONE.

So why the hell did they take it down, hmm? Does no one understand about open source software around here?

ETA: I should define "here" as the general PSP homebrew "scene" including dcemu and QJ.

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Originally Posted by SpooForBrains

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Exophase has licensed the source code under the GNU General Public License.

This means that Takka's release is ENTIRELY LEGITIMATE. The only condition he needs to adhere to is that he must also release the source code to his derivative work WHICH HE HAS DONE.
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Exactly!!

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Originally Posted by theshadowrunner

i like Takka's release.
For instance we can define a default ROM folder and gpsp will open it by default and all sorts of small tweaks.
Besides i don't understand something, if Exo doesn't want any unofficial versions, why does he release the source?
Later,

TSR

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I actually asked him that in a previous thread, but he said I was too stupid to understand his reasons :(

I just want to add on free software, and what I think is the reason why Exo doesn't like Takka's work.

Usually, in an open source software development, there is a common directory ( CVS or SVN for example ) these directories keep older versions of files in memory and can provide the differences between two version of the same file.

Normally, when a second developer wants to help, such a directory is made and it can be split up into multiple projects for example. An official project and a more experimental one. When good ideas emerge from one, it can be incorporated into the official project.

Also, in bigger projects, devs will usually modify the files that are on the CVS/SVN, and then a kind of moderator of the source code, will decide if the work is good and of enough quality for the project and add the code to the official project.

I'm sure Exo would have preferred an approach like this, where everyone can work on the same project and where all the work done can be incorporated in a quality project with a single official release. While the other releases are still available on the project's website but only in source code form ( sometimes binaries too ), for the testers and other devs, or the more adventurous user. While only the official quality work is offered upfront to the general users of the software.

This is not what we are seeing, we are seeing Takka modifying the code of Exophase ( this is all fair ) and releasing it as a modified version's of Exophase's work ( this is kinda fair ), but without making it easy for Exophase to add the changes ( if they are of enough quality ) to the official project. Thus, creating a competition between the two release.

The problem here is the lack of cooperation between Takka and Exo, the big open-source softwares were not made out of competition, they were made from cooperation.

This is my take on the issue and I'm pretty sure this is how Exophase feels and I hope it might help some understand some reasons behind this.

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I actually asked him that in a previous thread, but he said I was too stupid to understand his reasons :(

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You know, you really have a lot of nerve. I happened to post several lengthy posts explaining myself, to which you replied "that's nice" and basically ignored them. And now you come around saying things like this.

Troll.

I actually did say that Takka could release a version that was nothing more than a Japanese translation, in interest of accessibility (and obviously that wouldn't cause any confusion, and would clearly be an alternative release), and of course he runs off with that and loads a bunch of crap in it and releases that. I don't know what the point is in asking me to release a translation if he's just going to release whatever the hell he wants anyway, like usual.

I'm sure everyone will be much better off now that they have underscores in their savestate filenames (that's definitely worth making everyone change the names manually for) and I'm sure the people who kept complaining about busted analog will be glad he added it BACK to the menu. I'm referring to this:

# Adding the operation with the analog key at the time of the menu

It was originally like this, I removed it so that people would actually be able to turn analog off if it didn't work for them, without fighting the menu.

But I should be thanking Takka for fixing what must be my mistakes, again.

I'm tired of this, I'm not going to even waste my time looking at the source anymore. I didn't want it to come to this, I wanted him to WORK with me, but obviously he's incapable of this, and of course I'm the bad guy so yeah.

I know that if I quit the project now I'm just going to get flamed to hell but I'm not sure if I care anymore.

It you did decide to quit Exophase, you wouldn't be flamed here. But, a lot of people wait eagerly for a release from you. To be honest, this is one of the better homebrew releases and updates will be missed. Please don't quit this project.

I wouldnt get upset about it Exo. 90% of the scene use gPSP 0.9 Official release anyways, and 100% know that the work in unofficial versions is your work aswell along with minor tweaks that some people dont even use or dont want.
No one will flame you here man, and your work is much appreciated.

Exophase: Thanks for a great emulator, i first discovered it at gpsp 08 and was quite happy with it until you released v0.9
Your work is greatly appreciated and there are many paople who wouldnt even look at this thread, apart from to see your responce to another pointless Takka update, heck its not even an update, just a way of getting his name onto a good project.Please keep up the good work exo, but if you dont, thanks for what you have done :)