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I'm not able to get this version running. I have followed the instructons, placing the folder and the txt file on the root, and I get the regular Necropolis intro when I boot it. Then when I begin the game, I get as far as
"replacing existing lower sky
replacing existing upper sky
server loading models...
cache_tryalloc: 137680 is greater than free hunk, 1392 free"
then it freezes. I noticed there was no "id1" folder in the "Omicron" folder, so I tried creating one and placing the included "pak0.pak" inside, but that didn't work either. Thanks for your hard work, I look forward to a solution.
i'd love to play this man, but i cant get quake pre2 to load on my DS anymore! it freezes at "freeing precaches". i've DILI patched it for my M3 Perfect SD, double checked my folders and directories, and I have them all in order. i have the config.cfg file in ID1, and quakeds.nds in the root. WTF is up?
Hi,Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir_Voe
There shouldn't be an ID1 folder inside of Omicron.
First make sure you're using the correct files from this final version.
Next, make sure to copy over the new files, including qdsopts.txt, this is very important. In fact, please open the qdsopts.txt file and make sure it looks like this:
-game
omicron
+maxplayers
2
+map
dbra
Just like that, including a blank line underneath omicron. I just checked the distro pak and it's all correct here, so maybe you're still using the old file which was actually incorrect.
If you still have problems, post here and we'll figure this out. I'm fairly certain it's the qdsopt.txt file, that's what initiates the game, and before I figured this out I was manually overiding the default pak files with mine to force the mod to start.
Please use these new files, it's a much cleaner way to play, and it keeps your original game intact.
Hi,Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Biggs
Please delete your quake .sav file, and try a freshly patched Quake pre2 again. I've noticed that old .sav files can actually affect some games. In example my nesDS wouldn't save even though dldi was added. Deleting my older .sav file fixed it, maybe you'll have similar luck.
Alright, I deleted the old txt file and folder from my card and re-downloaded. I made sure I used the appropriate txt file and still no luck. It froze right where it did last time. I'm using an R4, and I have had no problems with previous versions of your mod. The vid looks awesome BTW, can't wait to try it.
I see what I did, I had dqdsopts.txt in the installer, and not qdsopts.txt. I was testing commandlines and accidentally put the wrong one into the zip you downloaded :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir_Voe
SORRY
Please download this LAST one, I GUARANTEE it will work or I'll eat my hat!
The correct Qdsopts.txt reads:
-game
omicron
+maxplayers
2
+map
dbra
Which is much different than what was previously packaged.
GoGo!
I don't have any saves in my ID1 directory. The only thing that i know has changed is that im using a different SD card. all i have is the DILI patched quake pre2 in the root, the ID1 folder (which contains the pak files, and the config.cfg file from simon) in the root. I still get the freeze on "freeing precaches". this is really starting to piss me off, cause that youtube vid has me wanting to play this mod real bad. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by x999x
Thanks for your help!
Do you get the freeing precaches message when you're playing regular single player quake? If so, PM me and we'll sort something out (there seems to be a lingering bug which I'm working through with someone else)
@x999x, so what's next? Any more mod plans? (please)
sent a PM just before your message, mate. yeah, i cant even get the single player version of quake to run. and if i try to run the mod, i get a screen with the words "omicron bots" on two lines at the top of the screen.
@x999x: if you really want to wow the mod community, make a clone of the Black Mesa reception area. ;D i know that involves new textures and soldier models, but that would really make your place in the mod community. not that Rocket Arena didnt.
Mr.Hall,Quote:
Originally Posted by simonjhall
I have RailArena ready to release, but I'm hesitant until people can get this one working correctly :P As for the precache error, I honestly don't play single player so I can only say I haven't experienced it the times I dabbled with it. With regards to the mods, I ran into errors loading the sky on XPLoadzone when the frag limit was hit. The error messoage would say the it needed XXX more ram to fill but only had YYY available and would halt arm7. I found that I would not run in to this bug if I changed game modes before loading the new map. I don't know what that does, maybe clears the cache or something, but I've never run into the problem since. If you'd like to try and reproduce some of those cache errors, try loading the omicron bots from my modpak into a regular e1m2 map. I forgot which one it was, but you'll get a crash every time it gets to that blasted sky texture or model.
@Mr.Biggs
When I say save state, I am referring to the actual quakeds.sav file that your R4 or what-have-you would make upon running Quake the first time.
Now, make sure you have the last and final installer files of this modpak found above. There should be one folder named omicron, and a qdsopts.txt file which you place in the root of your flashcard. You will also need your standard ID1 folder in the root of your flashcard with pak0.pak and pak1.pak (registered version).
Now, make sure your qdsopts.txt reads as follows:
-game
omicron
+maxplayers
2
+map
dbra
Also make sure there is a blank line under "dbra", you can tell if there's a blank line there if you can see a cursor when you click there.
Now, again, make sure you have no quakeds.sav file, and fire up quakeds. You *should* be taken to the que area of the mod.
/crosses fingers
This final release worked like a charm for me: I copied the qdsopts.txt, the new omnicron/pak0.pak, and deleted the quakeds.sav.
This release appeared to fix the problem of resetting the attack binding.
Bring on RailArena! :)
FWIW, I'm running this on M3 Simply DS with the latest firmware. I don't even have to patch the DLDI thanks to the autopatching.
Great! I just edited the txt file (gotta love DSOrganize) to what it was supposed to be and it's running now. I guess your hat is safe this time.
The AI really shines on the new levels. I think an arcade mode would suit the 1 on 1 play style well, with a new, more skilled bot being swapped in at the end of each round. Thanks again for putting this together, I look forward to your next release.
Ok, I'll test in a bit to see why the sky doesn't load on regular maps. Although tbh I doubt it's a problem with the sky, as that shouldn't take any memory! (or does it...?)
Anyway, these omicron bots do take a lot of memory, so I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't fit well with the regular levels.
To any other people who are getting crashes which don't have desciptive messages (for instance that weird precaches message), please get in touch.
Also, I posted this on gbadev - if anyone has an old copy of the first Quake mission pack, care to send it my way? I can't seem to get hold of it for decent money.
EDIT: I've found out why the sky wasn't loading - basically you've run out of memory by this point. It's not a problem with the sky, but the loading of the lightmaps for the world...
Do you mean you need Quake's .pak files?Quote:
Originally Posted by simonjhall
I want to add support for the first official Quake mission pack, Scourge of Armagon, made by Hipnotic.
I've got the second mission pack, so don't need that...
My M3 Perfect SD only needs save files if a game or homebrew file uses SRAM. and that file isnt created unless i make it. but i got hold of simon, and we've established that... something... is buggy. but i managed to play QDSRA, and i am really impressed. now we just need to wait for simon to get us some blood up in this thing!Quote:
Originally Posted by x999x
Or the sound bytes at the begining of each RA matchup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Biggs
3-2-1-FIGHT!!!
Simon got it working, just waiting on a new QDS release :) :) I reckon we'll see it once he sorts out the Xpansion pack project.
/crosses fingers
Nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Biggs
Btw, an M3 will be fine for the big RAM build. It's EZ-flash you want to worry about, as I'm thinking of dropping support for that.
I can't remember, did I send you that sound-playing build in the end?Quote:
Originally Posted by x999x
And yeah I'll release it in conjunction with some kind of major feature, eg the RAM build.
EDIT: and blood? How does that work? Are there shit-loads of red particles on the PC version or something?
I didn't get that, it's probably because we post here and at gbadev, which is where I PM'd ya my email addy. No rush, I put audio over the game sounds in my video so noone would notice them missing, which is what I was going to use that special build for basically.Quote:
Originally Posted by simonjhall
I'll take a look in my archives for that expansion pack, I remember having all of them at one point in time.
Awesome. every man always needs a little more RAM power. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by simonjhall
Yeah, the blood is just red particles that pop up when an enemy is shot and they stream after flying chunks of gibs. makes for a good effect.
I won't bother to find that official QuakeDS topic, so I will ask here.
Is it possible to switch the touch-screen aiming to be controlled by ABXY -buttons?
^ yes it is.
Hey I wanted to ask, is there anyway to have this cool MOD but seperate from the regular QuakeDS, when I added it, it ****ed up my regular single player, and I have to delete all traces of it to get the QuakeDS back to normal, via hex editor or something can I have it seek out other files and then copy my id1 folder and rename everything?
Thanks
Then would you bother to tell me how?
.......ok. The reason I didn't is because I assumed you hadn't used it yet, if you had, and have used any other games in the past, you'd simply see you go to options > controls...
Hiya, it's pretty easy. If you go to the key configuration page of QDS there should be options for look up/down. To look left and right just bind the buttons for turn left/right...Quote:
Originally Posted by iso jussi
I can't remember if I took out the look up/down button mappings though...
What exactly is your question? Both the mod and the proper game should be in separate directories - if you want to get rid of the mod, just delete the directory. There should be no need at all to use a hex editor ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by chemical
Thanks, Simon.
And is there any hypotetical date for that big RAM -build?
I hope that didn't sound too pushy.
Hey thanks for the help but that isn't exactly what I meant, they're seperate physical files alright, but when I start QuakeDS. I can no longer use the regular Quake single player, I can only use the deathmatch. And after fiddling the only way to get back the original quake is to totally remove this mod, so I was asking if there's a way to make it seperate? so I have QuakeDS.nds and QuakeDeathmatchDS.nds for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by simonjhall
With Doom it was thought you could only use 1 WAD with it, but I copied the .nds and renamed them, then used a hex editor to make them search for a different name to "doom.wad" allowing me to have multiple on my DS all at once, so I was asking if maybe I could do something similar? I'm not sure exactly how this mod works, but if it searches for "id1" perhaps I could hex edit to search for "id2" and just copy a new folder so I have 1 unmodded and one modded, or perhaps it searches for another file?
Hopefully I've made my question clear now, thanks for any help :thumbup:
p.s If this is possible I'll be happy to do it and upload it like I did for the Doom IWAD thread.
So at the moment you've got two different executables? How are they different? And are they in the same place in the drive's directory structure? What happens exactly when you start QDS?Quote:
Originally Posted by chemical
If the game is defaulting to something that's not the stock Quake game, have you tried deleting your qdsopts.txt file? This file tells the game that you want to start the mod.
No date I'm afraid. I restarted working on it about a week ago but tbh it's not going as well as I hoped. I was also planning on working on it this weekend, but I've got such a bad hangover today that I don't think I could stomach a big coding sesh!Quote:
Originally Posted by iso jussi
As a rough date, I'd like to get something out within six weeks which supports slot-2 RAM expansions, adds music, fixes texture bugs etc etc. Cool?
Correctamundo :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by simonjhall
1- It really shouldn't mess your QuakeDS up by using this mod. It's just a folder and qdsopts.txt file. That txt file is a command line, and tells QuakeDS what to do next, and in my case, it tells Rocket Arena to start.Quote:
Originally Posted by chemical
2- Starting QuakeDS with or without a commandline is on my wishlist :) I'd like to see something like a preloader that just lets you select which qdsopts.txt file to boot, or holding down the "A" button when you launch QDS reads or bypasses the qdsopts.txt :)
PS- I think the Rail Arena Mod should be released this week, I've sat on it long enough ;) Ready for another Simon?
Knock 'em dead, mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by x999x
I think this one should run a whole lot smoothly, now that you know the magic of <newline> ;-)
So, how's rail arena coming on then?
Help! I need a bit of help with QuakeDS because I do everything right,put the folders where's they're supposed to be,but then I get an error where it says something has too many vertices.Any pointers on how I could get this working right?Oh yeah,it was Progs/V_shot.mdl has too many vertices.What is that?
Dude excellent addition to QuakeDS!
Just thought i'd mention that on my version, it plays great, but the sound cuts in and out kinda randomly, not sure if this is a prob for everyone, also on rocket arena i cant fire the rocket launcher on ocassion lol.... im using the latest Supercard slot 1.
Dude plz make more maps!! BUT THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE SO FAR!!!!
x999x, awesome work! And of course, simonjhall for the port!
I have a couple of questions that someone might be able to answer.
Firstly, is it possible to run more than one bot at a time? I changed the +maxplayers bit in the qdsopts file to 4 but it didn't make a difference.
Secondly, is it possible to use a bot as a co-op partner in regular Quake?
Lastly, I've added a whole bunch of DM maps to the PAK and edited the dmstart.cfg file accordingly, but rather than randomly or even sequentially moving through the levels, it plays through a few and then eventually keeps going back to the same map. Is there any way I could fix this?
Thanks again!
Unfortunately, it seems QuakeDS currently has a 2 player maximum hard coded into the engine. I've removed it, but am unable to get it to compile.
Also, I have frikbot running on this. How many it can support, I won't know until I can get the hard coded limit removed, but I'm hoping for at least 3 so I can get some CTF action going on.
Apparently performance suffers dramatically with more than two players so the cap was implimented to keep things playable. The next update or EXRAM build should hopefully help matters in that regard.
I MUCH prefer Frikbot to Omicron, so if you have any files/wlkthroughs/etc that you could post up that would helps others to get this working, please do!
Freezes at that in console at boot. works w/out bot packQuote:
Ran out of texture handles!
Trying to make a texture for progs/eyes.mdl
im having the same problem