Ok need your opinion on something, if its legit or not

ok so i searched for hours on google yesturday for cheap mobile phones, and i finally cam across this web page that said all these phones for sale bla bla bla and it had 3 email adresses. I was talkign to one on msn just now and i want your opinion on wether this seems legit or not, here is the conversation. (I'm "abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz" and david is the seler)

btw if it too hard for you to read, you can downlaod the text document at thew bottom, much easier to read ;)

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David says:
hello

David says:

how are you?

David says:

this is the phones seller

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:

i guessed that

David says:

ok

David says:

so we have all the phones ready now

David says:

ok

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:

ok

David says:

and we are doing christmas bonanza

David says:

buy 3 get 1 free

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:

ok tell me more

David says:

buy 2 get discount

David says:

ok

David says:

where are you located at?

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:

i am located at brisbane, australia

David says:

ok

David says:

ok

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:

ok

David says:

we shipp via fedex shipping company and is within 48hours to your door step

David says:

from Greece

David says:

ok

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:

ok

David says:

so which model of phones do you want?

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:

well i was thinking sony ericsson w960i or iphone but im not too sure yet

David says:

we have the bothe

David says:

are you ready to order now?

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:

not just yet, il have to think about it and get back to you

David says:

the both is ok

David says:

iphones 8gb is $250usd including the shipping cost

David says:

and w960 is $280usd including the shipping cost

David says:

all is brand new unlocked

David says:

sealed in company an original box with complete accessories and 1 year international
warray

David says:

ok

David says:

the phones will work perfectly is australia

David says:

ok

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:

ok

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:

how can you sell them for so cheap?

David says:

we sell them cheap because we are authorised dealer

David says:

we buy bulk and in container direct from the manufacturer company

David says:

ok'

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:

ok

David says:

so how many do you wnat now?

David says:

so that we can start packing it for you

David says:

and i assure 100% gurantee that you will get the phones and you will be glad doing business with us

David says:

ok

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:

ok, i will tell you tomorrow after i ask the person i am gettign them for

David says:

ok

David says:

thanks

David says:

nice talking to you

David says:

ok

David says:

bye

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:

you too

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:

bye

David says:

you can send me mail tommorow if am not online

David says:

ok

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:

ok


David says:

bye

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:

bye

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nah mate, thats not legit as i am telling you over MSN right now.. the miracles of modern technology

They call themselves an "authorized dealer" all authorized dealers of apple products have to sell at a Set Retail Price which they are not allowed to change officially.

Thats a big loop hole in his sales pitch...

Also why do you need 3 of them? gonna send your west aussie buddy one ;)

Also I'm fairly certain the W960i is not available yet.... in Australia

i wount go with it just because you will be giving some guy your info for a phone, not worth it, its best to buy at a place or site publicly well known so like that you run no real risk of you know getting robed out of your money like so many have been.

Definitally not legit, i have been burned once, a long time ago, so i have become very very cautious about these things, i only buy from ebay now, or i buy in person, its just too easy for people to rip you off like that.

Yer only other site that has them near that cheap is absolute electronics, but there minimum order is $500

Looks a bit dodgy...

that is soo not legit.

If you linked to the site where you found this seller, it would be easier to determine.

i think it was this site

http://www.sleekads.com/73/posts/2_B...AT_200USD.html

I don't know. Personally I would prefer to buy a cell phone on a local shop

Yes but i dont wanna pay $1200 for a phone

Edit: there is this other one aswell

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abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:
are you sure you can offer me no proof?
Ivan says:
hi
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:
hi
Ivan says:
i have exlained to you and just now we have sold about 106 of iphones to pakistan
Ivan says:
we have buyers worldwide
Ivan says:
and u will get the package for sure
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:
how do i pay?
Ivan says:
the payment will be made via western union money transfer or money gram with our company's accountant name and address for orders within 1-20 units while paypal for orders above 20 units.
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:
i was advised against using western union
Ivan says:
then try money gram
Ivan says:
since u are buying 1 unit
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:
when i ahve the trackign number how do i use that?
Ivan says:
its lik this
Ivan says:
u make payment...and email us the details
Ivan says:
you also send us the shipping address and phone numbers
Ivan says:
then we attach your payment slip with the shipment
Ivan says:
fedex ships the package
Ivan says:
they will send us the shipment documents
Ivan says:
we shal forward the shipment documents;;;TRACKING NUMBER AND AIRWAY BILL
Ivan says:
we send you the payment invoice too
Ivan says:
then you go to fedex website and insert the tracking number into
Ivan says:
ok?
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:
ok
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:
Ivan says:
u make payment...and email us the details

which details?
Ivan says:
the mtcn and the senders name and the amount sent
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:
mtcn?
Ivan says:
yes.....Money transfer control number
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:
ok
Ivan says:
ok
Ivan says:
that is use by western union
Ivan says:
while refrence number (8 digit) is used by money gram
Ivan says:
the mtcn number for western junion is 10 digit
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:
so im usign money gram so then it wouldnt be mtcn? it would be reference number
Ivan says:
yes

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Ivan says:
we use paypal
Ivan says:
but for 20+ order
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:
oh yes sorry
Ivan says:
ok
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:
why only 20 + order?
Ivan says:
company rules
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:
yes but why?
Ivan says:
policies laid down even before i started work here
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:
and they never told you?
Ivan says:
i was told that its takes time and its better for the business
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:
hhhmmm but will the phone come with an AU compatible charger?
Ivan says:
of course
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:
i dont think the phone is released in australia yet and since you say it is un opened how will ti have one?
Ivan says:
its unlocked
Ivan says:
and works in AU
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:
that doesnt mean it will have the right charger...
Ivan says:
yes
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:
how?
Ivan says:
yes...it has the right charger
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:
how?
Ivan says:
THEY HAVE ADJUSTED THE PHONES AND ITSACCESSORIES
Ivan says:
its also works in Japan with 110volts
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:
so it has the right wall socket plug?

The following message could not be delivered to all recipients:
so it has the right wall socket plug?

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he went offline when i asked that question, he came back

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Ivan says:
your shipping address
Ivan says:
and contact telephone numbers
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:
yer
Ivan says:
with your full order
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:
yer
Ivan says:
send it by email
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:
shouldnt i od that after i have paid?
Ivan says:
its up to you
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:
ok
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:
so then when i pay u sned me the reciept?
Ivan says:
yes
Ivan says:
but i will need to give you our company's accountant name and address
Ivan says:
you will use it to fill the payment form at money gram
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz says:
ok

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what do you make of that?

It's a big risk.

You can try. If you lose your money, don't cry.

LOL at push for your details after failing to answer a question. If they are legit, they're not doing themselves much justice. Also, last I checked iPhones haven't been sold without being locked to a network, hence the effort to unlock as opposed to importing. That kinda blows the whole "unopened+unlocked" thing outta the water.

yer im not going for it

lol, my tips for buying are:

Use eBay - pay via PayPal

Buy via a trusted site, Google search for site reviews before buying from a site you've never heard of (cause others might of bought from it).

Never buy from someone who lists at least 100+ phones and other devices from within a forum, they don't have the merchandise they are most probably from Nigeria and looking for a quick scam.

Never buy from anywhere that doesn't have a site review that can be found on Google.

And finally, never buy from someone over an Instant Message client as they will personally keep your details for fraudulent uses later.

paypal screwed me over!