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Takka has released a new version of his work on exophases GBA emulator for the PSP.
UnOfficial gpSP kai-1 test svn rev 3.3.
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I'm looking forward to when we can get full ad hoc emulation support =D
I am looking forward to Exophase releasing HIS version, until then I will continue to shun this guys work, it may be a different build to Exophase's, but on many occasions he has asked for this stuff to not be worked on, it is his emu, after all, let the man update what he wants :)
Mike..
Well well well. *__*
Still no OFFICIAL gpSP... I will not use this crap.
Sshhhhhh.....we need adhoc dude, by any means necessary.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikebeaver
Is he even making more releases? I think I remember this one time he got really pissed and threatened to stop.
someones working hard and releasing frequently and you say its crap..Quote:
Originally Posted by Triggerman
hes far surpassed the official and has added many new features, cut the guy some slack.
yea i would agree with you if exophrase was releasing updates but hes not therefore the better guy is continuing the work. at the end of the day, this kai dude is releasing updates to us, hes not making money of it.
i say better not as in better coder, but whats better for the home brew and emulation community
Some of you guys need to get a life.I can't tell you how many post on other forums get cluttered with this same topic. Expose himself said he didn't care anymore so why should anybody else? It is a freaking emulator people albeit one of the best ones there is but still just an emulator.
I'm not "exophrase" or "expose", I swear if you can't even get that right...
You can all argue about whether or not you should download this on principle, I really don't care, if software is worth using then use it.
But somehow no one ever really stops to actually consider what these releases do, probably because people usually don't even know. Seems to me that this is completely useless, and it's probably just out there to hype link emulation he doesn't have and hasn't actually moved any closer to implementing. What good is it going to do to have some test running on your PSP that fills your memstick full of logs when it doesn't actually do anything useful? Someone please explain this to me...
People see this stuff and are like OMG ADHOC SUPPORT IS COMING! Even though he's been pushing it for several months, you're just falling for pointless hype...
I wouldn't mind these kinds of releases if they actually served a purpose but they don't, but go ahead and praise him for "working hard", afterall he's releasing SOMETHING that you guys can see and I'm not and that's all that matters right?
There's lots I could have done for gpSP, and some I did do since 0.9, but I'm working on another emulator for now... and I'm tired of developing something for PSP users because too many of them don't have common sense and are total parasites. It's probably a lot easier being Takka because he didn't give out his AIM SN and he doesn't post on boards like this so he isn't bothered by annoying newbs every day asking how to install custom firmwares and run BIOSes and read readmes God knows what else.
Yeah I know I'm gonna get flamed for all of this but seriously try to take in what I'm saying. There's a difference between adding little things and making a releases whenever you feel like it and getting everyone to support you when they don't even understand what your changelog says, and actually dedicated work to making it much better.
But if I was working hard it'd still take me a long time because I've long since been done with the "easy" part of GBA emulation. The optimizations I have in mind are very serious endeavors. So I wouldn't be releasing frequently (I never have, because I believe in quality over quantity), and therefore according to maxipower Takka would still be "the better guy."
**** that.
I don't expect very many of you to really understand.
I'll still be working on my PC-Engine emulator, for a worse platform but a much better scene. I'll probably return to gpSP one day, despite how much its been dragged through the mud.
nicely said Exophase.
Exophase I understand completely what you are saying, but you have blown this out of proportion to the extent where you take it upon yourself to say that the PSP scene is filled with nothing but users with no common sense..... How can anyone have respect for you when you talk down to us like that. Does any real harm come to you from Takka making useless updates of your emulator? Like honestly I would rather have you not release anything and not bitch about your work being worked on by others...... To me you have no common sense of respect.
Sorry that you feel that way, Exophase. Sorry too that too many people take advantage of your availability on forums, etcetera. I have actually found some of KAI's ports to run games that for whatever reason won't run on your last release, but I agree that many of these releases seem superfluous.
I never said that the PSP scene was "filled with nothing but" these kinds of people, what I said that there are too many people like that. I worded it like that for a reason, so don't take it personally unless you have a good reason to believe I am referring to you. Do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by pkmaximum
Do you think I'm out of line to say that there are a lot of selfish, immature brats in this community? Are you constantly IMed by people who think you're their tech support because they saw your username in a readme? Did you know that there have been people who have found my phone number and voice/txt spammed me because I didn't talk to them on AIM anymore (even though I was patient with them for months, and they just pushed and pushed too far)? Sure, it's not like everyone's like this. It might even be a minority. But look I around and what I see is an atmosphere that tolerates people like this, that doesn't really care. Maybe it's age gap, I think a lot of PSP homebrew users are young teenagers. In the GP2X scene most people are probably adults and have gotten past the stage of life where they expect everything to be provided for them on demand.
By the way, have you ever developed an emulator, or any software? I'm not dumping on you for this but listen because it's relevant. Have you watched some guy release modified versions of your code while you're in the middle of working very hard on it, to get a lot of responses like "at least this guy is releasing." I don't think you have. I have emu dev friends who understand exactly how I feel. It's one of them that alerted me about this topic, and he's probably as pissed off about Takka as I am. And it's not even his emulator.
There are PSP users like that (NO not all of them at all, I have met a ton of very decent people around here), they will praise and support something 100% so long as they think it's going to benefit them, then when they stop believing it will they'll turn on it entirely, as if devs exist solely for the purpose of catering to them. Look at what happened to zx81 with PSPVBA, look at all the people who were praising him like mad over every release because they thought it'd mean fullspeed GBA emulation, then when he cut development they all were really disappointed, with a lot of them going so far as to flame him. Hell, people have been flaming Daedalus because for some reason they expected it to be fullspeed, I hear crap about how he's had so and so long to do it. At the same time people like SHIFTY came around releasing binaries that were literally identical to Daedalus ones already out while pretending that it ran Mario 64 faster, and a ton of people believed it, and praised him for it.
Do you get what I'm saying about lack of common sense being an issue here? No it's not very nice of me to say, but it is true.
Yeah, a big reason for that (his versions supporting things that 0.9 doesn't) is because he has merged in changes I've made in the GP2X version of gpSP, and in the case of FF6 has followed what I have said about it on a blog (referenced on his wiki, so he's okay with reading my blog to use what I say but still doesn't want to actually work with me). Some games were broken in 0.9 because of the new memory handlers but I fixed these bugs within a couple of weeks of releaase, and that's why they made it into the GP2X source. Him backporting my changes in another version and effectively taking credit for them is quite underhanded, IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobablob
However, like I said, if you have good reason to use those versions use them. I don't expect (nor want) anyone to boycott legal software out of loyalty. What I do expect is for people to be more discerning about what they compliment and deride.
After reading that I have a stronger grasp on what you are trying to say. I suppose I interpreted to much that you were trying to flame the PSP users out there over the Kai release. I'm sorry to hear that so many psp users have spammed you in the past (probably still doing it). It sux but this whole emulation world is full of the give me give me people. As far as ZX81 and VBA.... Well it sux but its hard to support something so much when something else comes out that is at a level wear VBA just couldn't ever reach. But I think ZX81 knew that at the same time. People definetly do suck some times. I still can't agree with you that to much of a majority of the PSP scene lacks common sense, but you are very right that there is a good majority that does. That is because sadly the majority like you said are people mainly just in High School. Where they think any coders work is for the soul purpose of their benefit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Exophase
Sorry for lashing out at you I should have tried to listen a bit more clearly to what you were saying instead of only analyzing that one comment about common sense. I really do look forward to releases of the GBA hopefully officially by you.
BTW to the coding software thing, you are right I don't code anything legit for the most part. I have made a few things in Visual Basic, but thats it. Hopefully you will release some of your updates on your emulator though cause everyone appreciates updates for the most part no matter how small. Especially cause I guess it just lets people know your still working hard on the emu. But thats your choice.
I suppose your right I truthfully believed he was on the verge of ad hoc, I'm not a coder that can really defer the difference after all.
I wish you the best of luck Exophase, and I hope the GP2X scene makes you happier than the PSP scene then.....
Whatever you release will be appreciated by anyone with respect for the effort it's taken. Ive got a cpl mates with GP2Xs and I know they would appreciate another great coder in their scene.
There certainly are less immature whiners on gp2x forums, largely I guess because there's no commercial games to download for that platform. It seems many young'uns expect not just their homebrew but also their new commercial games for free (and right now). Even then they'll probably get comments like 'not worth downloading the ISO'.
I think most are decent ppl, it's just a vocal (wanker) minority.
F#*k what the expectant pissants waffle on about.
Easier said than done I know.
It's like scientology, you can get pissed that they have tax free status and are allowed to prey on people, or just sit back and just laugh at the morons and their meaningless dribble.
You know, I appreciate your work. Unlike most people who decide to rock out homebrew and well, anything really, who cannot sit to think, "Hey, although this program clearly is beta or still in it's development stage, I think I'll bitch and complain about how much it does not do what it's suppose to do.. Not to add, It's not done yet! YAY! :D" Example, linux... soo many crappy distributions out now because of that reason. Another, the whole, "Well, since I cannot get progressive mode to work on my sdtv, why even get the slim(or I should return mines, stupid p.o.s)" Things of the like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Exophase
Now, I don't really expect anything I said to be taken seriously by the mass audience for the reasons you've already spoken of. But something that should be kept in mind, if you have a job, you pay rent, basically, you are not going to sit there and pump shit out of no where and make a super final release that has every feature you can possibly want. That's stupid and unrealistic. Unfortunately, These types of people do not understand the amount of time and well, varying perfection put into the brew. It is because a lot of these people, who completely induce piracy and share amongst their fellow nooblet community, how leet they are by sending them links, advertising people shit and selling it, changing pictures to give themselves credit for other people work, etc. It's lame.
A potential to do what you want to your own product made by another company is a great thing. I guess I just don't understand why people bitch and moan about how something doesn't work right for them. If it wasn't for these rad programmers/hackers(by definition that actual fits... :-\) This stuff would not be here. I'm not saying anything negative to you exophase, or to anyone, I'm merely emphasizing how much of a lack of appreciation there is for an open world.
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PUFF PUFF What did i miss?
Dang man how about Emophase? Everyone in the world knows it's your emu.Quote:
Originally Posted by Exophase
nothing wrong with people clinging to hope for fullscreen composite out for slim, or adhoc support for silm/phat.
And i do understand that it's your work as does Taka, as it's "UO gpsp". UO = UnOfficial in case someone didn't know.
P.S. I used to spin at Bloomington parties and you people party hard! Like every other house there has 100 or so people partying. !rock on!
Fair Play Exophase. I hope you do come back to the psp scene at some point though.
Ahh bugger... I'm sure a PC-Engine from yourself would rock too, just a shame the PSP scene won't ever see now due to all the whingers and moaners. The PC Engine is the one machine that seems neglegted on the PSP. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Exophase
Yeh it's a crying shame, all these gimmegimmegimme nobheads are enough to piss the most patient of people off. Reading that, I can fully understand your feelings on your emu and Takka's releases, without being a developer. As most have said, I hope you do return, your emu is fantastic and one of my most-used apps. Apart from that, all I can say is don't let the bastards grind you down !
I must admit that I downloaded Takka's releases in order to play some games that didn't run on official releases (Like Bit Generation games (Boundish, Soundvoyager, etc)).
Well, after trying these releases, I fully support Exophase's work.
I will say only these word about the two latest releases of Takka: DO NOT DOWNLOAD THESE CRAPPY SHITTY F**KING DAMN BAD-CODED THINGS. When Takka releases a newer version, he's "correcting" some bugs... to add new ones! At this time, there are two pretty damn annoying bug: the emulator crashes when loading a second ZIPped rom since the 3.2 Test 7 version and the sound is heavily delayed (making games like Rhythm Tengoku unplayable).
To correct the first bug that freezes the PSP, oh it is very simple. Instead of freezing, let's throw the user directly to the XMB, so the bug will be fixed!
Takka's work is not serious. Instead of planning huge features like AdHoc, he ought to correct the bugs mentioned above.
Not used any apart from exophases. Takka is basically stealing his code! i know its distrib as freeware, gnu an all that, but bottom line is it IS stealing. If takka wants to make a GBA emu he should make one, not just rip off someone elses hard work. Mebbe if he released fewer updates he'd have more time to code one? GO EXOPHASE :)
Oh and agree with the too many takers in psp community, wonder how many ppl have REALLY donated to Darkalex for all HIS hard work????
i have never used anything else than exos gpsp. and we will all miss you very very much in the psp scene. hopefully you will come back one day and code another emulator for the psp. (or perhaps you could port your GPX2 pc engine emu to the psp someday :D )
i would like to just say that I am greatfull to anyone who releases or updates anything for the PSP becuase left to Sony it would be a pointless pile of exspense s***.
Thanks all coders
Ummm woooow I am sorry for the bs that you have had to hear just for releasing a great piece of work and um sorry I spelled you name wrong. I like this board alot so I will be respectful and brief. I think you need to slow your roll on the insults you throw around. yeah there are alot of ***holes but there also are alot of people that are greatful Im sure you know that better than I do judging by the feedback that you get. I don't really think that I am a parasite considering that I have a flashcart along with about 30 gba titles that I have bought and I have played your emulator a total of about 15 minutes since I got my psp. Alot of these people like myself just appretiate the skill of coders like you and what you do for the homebrew scene and not what they can get for free. I really appretiate what you have done for the scene But maybe you should check on some anger management classes cowboy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Exophase
I and a lot of others understand. I would just like to take this opportunity to thank you once again and let you know that I have a great fondness for the PC-Engine and if you could bring that to the PSP at some point it will be appreciated by many, especially myself. Also, I'm very excited to hear about the progress you made on gpSP and would really hope an update makes it to PSP some day. There is something magic about loading up gpSP 0.9 and playing some of the GBA games so incredibly well on the PSP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Exophase
With bonehead comments like that, regardless of any follow-up trying to explain your philosophy on the situation, its no wonder Exophase gets fed up with the PSP scene. Give him a break, cut him some slack, and perhaps one day we'll be blessed not only with an improved gpSP, but also a PC-Engine emulator.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Vattic
The PSP scene owes a lot to Exophase and could benefit tremendously from future contributions if Exophase decides to do so.
Please don't forget about the legions of supportive and appreciative people in the scene Exophase..
Sucks you had to deal with that garbage,I can't believe people went so far as to harrass you.
I really love your emu though,I've never used any other versions cause it plays the games I have just fine :)
Appreciate all of your hard work Exophase.
Frankly I hope he does quit, that means you scumbags might just have to BUY games instead of pirating them.
And if he does quit it's not because of me, it's because he got on the EVIL internets and put his work on it.
If what i say offends you, you need a serious talking to by a clinical psychologist as you have some kind of identity-social disorder.
And Veskgar wtf. you're the friggn' king o emo. with that sweaty shirtless headwrap pic. yuck man.
Overly sensitve F**ks are what is destroying the fun in the world. just look at the other topic, "Mature rated games on the decline".
This can only lead to a society of child-like minds and overly sensitive "green" people. After all, the government doesn't want intelligent, open minded, well-informed, and free population.
With everyone swinging on the coders wang's i figured the only thing to say was "quit cryin like a lil b**ch".
say-on emo anime avatars. As I know i will be flamed by you flaming fairies.
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Originally Posted by John Vattic
What an amusing post. lol
Nah, what's destroying the fun in the world is the amount of complete muppets who talk absolute shite. His arguments are fair, not that you'd bothered to read them. Before you go upsetting a much cherished developer, what the **** are you so special for ? Do you do anything useful or just spout shitty emo jokes ? Thought not.
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There certainly are less immature whiners on gp2x forums, largely I guess because there's no commercial games to download for that platform.
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http://wind-water.net/news.html :cool:
I'm not sure how much of an upgrade the GP2X community is over the PSP community, I've read the GP2X forums before and it was mostly filled with people whining about the PSP and trying to justify why they thought the GP2X was better.
Too bad that you don't release anything Exophase.
Now Takka strikes with your work. Unofficial or official, he makes the releases.
If they are good, thats what the downloader decides.
Hiding in another scene doesn't make it any better, because in every gaming or hacking scene you have whiners.
yeah, and there is absolutely NO reason to justify that GP2X are better than the psp. now when we actually got Picodrive and UAE4ALL we psp users has it all =)Quote:
Originally Posted by SpacemanSpiff
you guys are missing the point
the psp scene is full of idiots and whiners BUT keep in mind not everyone is like that here
he never said anything abou gp2x being better than the psp
and the psp is prolly 100 times better than the gp2x but i'm pretty sure the people at the gp2x scene don't repeatedly ask the same questions that have already been asked 2 billion times and there are treasure mines of tutorials to answer the question
what you guys are pretty much doing (to those who support his endeavor) is praising takka for taking exophase's work and just rereleasing it under a different package
this release is garbage i could care less about my gba emulator able to run a test
and believe me i would love nothing more than another release from exophase letting me play FFVI but if he doesn't then i'm cool with it actually in fact i believe he's mentioned in his blog that he got it to work and whatnot plus alot of other things that i didn't understand but totally sounded like progress
i'm pretty sure if we all had a lil patients we'd get that fullspeed n64 or the adhoc gba instead of fakeass wannabe adhoc that isn't really even close to adhoc
well the gp2x better at some thing than psp just to name 1 in video playback the gp2x is better that psp the pont that am try to is ewry thing has it good and bad thingQuote:
Originally Posted by kharaboudjan
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the next handheld i will buy will be the pandora http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_%28console%29
Well.
Actually Exophase said he would continue developing gpSP for PSP if he got a PSP Slim & Lite, a few months ago.
In order to do that he needed money, which he got more than half by donations.
Then he announced that he had enough money, that he would go out - buy one and he even wanted to create a new thread for us to tell him what vital new functions and optimizations it should contain, giving a lot of users hope for a new official release. This was just before Christmas. And the problem was - the PSP was incredibly expensive at this time. He stated he would pick up a PSP S&L at the early new year. Thats were the story ended, just for all the people who didn't follow the official gpSP v0.9 release thread.
Now, I don't want to whine and I think Exophase knows how many PSP users would be more than happy with a new release.
There are so many -
1. people who can only take and then flame developers,
2. people who cannot read readme files to set something up which is so easily described,
3. people who keep nagging people and developers, asking to get them certain files or taking them as their personal consultant,
4. "developers" who "steal" your code to add useless things, don't release sources or not even think about consulting the original creator.
Seeing all these groups now and by reading and posting at forums for years makes me claim that 75% out of all PSP users seem to fit in at least one of these groups.
BUT, Exophase (and I hope you read this carefully) the PSP Scene is much bigger than the GP2X Scene since there are no commercial games for the device as someone else already said.
AND, which is more important, Exophase, the 5. group consists of people who appreciate all you have done, all you do and everything you will do and are so greatful at least leaving you a Thank you, from so many countries all over the world.
You have done such an awesome job writing this Emulator. For me it is the best and the only homebrew application I stay on CFW for. If someone can seriously continue and improve this work it's you.
What ever will happen, a big "Danke" from me and my friends in Germany for what you have already done.
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Originally Posted by John Vattic
Its somewhat flattering that you spent the time and effort on that detailed analysis of my avatar. Must've hit a nerve somewhere. A bit of friendly advice... If you are going to dish out criticism, you better have the capacity to handle it in return.
I won't feed the flames of this thread, but I will reiterate the fact that Exophase does make some pretty strong arguments and he should get more respect than he seems to be getting.
These Kai releases by Takka are garbage and we don't need them. Its best to let Exophase update the emulator as he sees fit.
there are some like http://wind-water.net/news.html :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Triggerman