Carmack says iPhone is "more powerful than a Nintendo DS and PSP combined"

[Shadowblind]

You all do know that SEGA itself said the iPhone was more powerful then the Dreamcast, right?

[JLF65]

You all do know that SEGA itself said the iPhone was more powerful then the Dreamcast, right?

Sure, but that doesn't mean anything. The Dreamcast isn't nearly as powerful as the PSP. A 200 MHz SH4 CPU isn't nearly as powerful as a single 333 MHz MIPS, much less TWO of them, and the PowerVR chip the Dreamcast used for video isn't as fast as the VDP in the PSP. I'm not saying the PSP is so much faster you could emulate the Dreamcast on it, but the PSP is clearly more powerful.

[darkdex52]

and the PowerVR chip the Dreamcast used for video isn't as fast as the VDP in the PSP.

Strangely enought, iPhone uses PowerVR chip too .

Anyways, people who judge CPU's/GPU's speed by raw hercz, are stupid. I mean, really stupid.

Ok, I looked more into it, and it looks, that iphones REAL gaming capability (since for games, it is more GPU than CPU) is equal to gaming capabilities of Nokia N95, Sony Ericsson M600 and M608c, Sony Ericsson P1i and P1c, Sony Ericsson P990 and P990c, Sony Ericsson W950i and W958c, Sony Ericsson W960i and W960c, and Motorola RIZR Z8, since they all use PowerVR MBX, a low-power chip

[JLF65]

Anyways, people who judge CPU's/GPU's speed by raw hercz, are stupid. I mean, really stupid.

Now you're getting into dangerous territory. Do you know anything about CPU architecture? Whether the CPU clock can be compared between different CPU depends on the architecture. AMD had a better internal architecture, so their CPUs ran better at a lower clock rate. Intel acknowledged that when they dropped NetBurst in favor of the PM architecture.

In this case, the SH family is much more limited than either the MIPS or ARM family. The ARM is more limited than the MIPS, but not as limited as the SH. In such a case, a slower SH CPU CAN be judged as less powerful than a faster ARM or MIPS CPU simply on the clock. If the clock speeds were all the same, the SH would STILL be slower, so with a slower clock as well, it's clearly less powerful.

The ARM processor in the iPhone is fast enough to make it more powerful than the MIPS processor in the PSP, but not by much. Also, the PSP has TWO processors where the only difference is that one has a vector processor and the other doesn't. So I'd say the PSP probably has more power if you can take full advantage of the two processors. Many times you can't, so the iPhone's CPU will be more powerful in those cases.

[Aryn]

As any gamer would know by now, the amount of raw power any system carries does not necessarily make it better. There are several game systems available right now that contain a fraction of the power of other systems yet still are major contenders.

In short, it is not the size or speed of the hardware that matters but how you use it.

[megaxzeo]

Again, it seems to me like someone tried to do this before. Ngage? :rofl:

[animekid4]

You are crapping on a toilet......the PSP and the DS are those huge poops that come out.......the iphone is like that lil turd.

[Zack]

Let's lay off John Carmack a bit please.

Irregardless of this statement he made, he did create Wolfenstein 3D.

I think he deserves respect for what he has done in the gaming industry.

[wolfpack]

All im going to say is this

iPhone is not a gaming handheld
Its not meant to be one, the controls would be screwy...just...no

[DPyro]

Carmack is irrelevant.