Sony Are Not The Enemy

[Volsfan91]

Sounds about like what I expected: blabbering from someone with no idea what they're talking about.

[10shu]

sony is the biggest liar on the industry... u remember how powerfull was supose to be the emotion engine of the ps2??? well they do the same bull$#@! with the cell processor now...

Now the psp was a pretty sexy piece hardware... but Sony never released any interesting content...
It took many year to see the first tekken games on the psp...still no gran turismo...no god of war, etc...

And now what?!?!They want me to buy a ps3 so I'll be able to re-paid to play my ps1 games?!?!? are they loose there mind????!?!?!?!

so F... u sony

[Basil Zero]

sony is the biggest liar on the industry... u remember how powerfull was supose to be the emotion engine of the ps2??? well they do the same bull$#@! with the cell processor now...

Now the psp was a pretty sexy piece hardware... but Sony never released any interesting content...
It took many year to see the first tekken games on the psp...still no gran turismo...no god of war, etc...

And now what?!?!They want me to buy a ps3 so I'll be able to re-paid to play my ps1 games?!?!? are they loose there mind????!?!?!?!

so F... u sony

Ok, so many mistakes dood

Emotion Engine, dont know much about it, i admit , but from seeing what i have seen, its all good regardeless.

and you saying that sony hasnt released any interesting content? than what is the webbrowser, locationfreeplayer, etc?

Many years for the first tekken to be on PSP? how so? PSP has only been around for 2 years, and tekken came out like more than year ago.

Gran Turismo, i can understand, God of War, be patient dood, u'r not the only one who is waiting.

And about re-paying for ps1 games to be downloaded via ps3, well isnt that what the other systems are doing as well?

Especially Wii with its VC.

So before you go flaming at one company think of the facts.

Originally Posted by sappo
Wait wait.

Sony IS the enemy.

Why?

Let's see point by point:

1) Sony is not denying us the right to use the fully of something we paid 200$
YES. I will explain why later.

2) Sony was not happy with the piracy on the PS2
I think not. Sadly, if a console has no piracy capabilities it sells at least the half it would sell. Also, they are happy with piracy. Otherwise, after the boom of Piracy on PSX, they could have done something better on PS2, regarding protections. Also, the PS2 got 14 hardware revision, every more piracy-friendly than the previous.

3) Sony makes money from software, so they are unhappy with piracy
Absolutely not. Firstly they are producers of a console, and in a second moment, they are producers of software. If a console doesn't sell, there's no need to make software, so it's better to have a wellsold-and-pirated console than a notpirated-and-notbought console.

4) Sony doesn't make homebrew available because emulators could make it open to legal procedures from other software houses
Absolutely not correct. As an example, we can get GP2x. An homebrew console. Not every single sue from any console maker. Why? Because it's not the console producer responsible of the use you do with it. Instead, if they would place integrated NES/SNES/N64 emulators in the PSP firmware, they would be GREATLY sueable. But, if every software house could sue anything that runs emulator, we should see 400 sues every day to Microsoft, because they have done Windows, and emulators run on it.

5) Sony has made not possible the use of personal PSX iS0s with the PSP emulator to avoid legal problems or loss of profits
Wait a moment... I have bought many original PSX games. Buying them, I have to right to put them on anything I wish, emulators on PC, emulators on GP2x and more, because I'm the owner of that game. And now, WHY the Sony had to make us pay AGAIN for games we already have? Simply, to spill us more money! PSX games are not profitable anymore, so making them pay it's simply another idea of making money on us. As I said before on emulators, no legal problem should come to Sony on putting a free PSX emulator on their firmware.

So, it's true. Sony IS THE ENEMY.

And I can confirm that, having bought first a PS2 old type that never functioned well, and secondly bought a PS2 slim that gave me EVERY genre of problems, and I had to send it to the assistance, and now it doesn't displays anymore movies in game, and I have to send it again to Sony assistance. Also, I have bought 3 PSP and two of them had dead pixels.

Surely, I WILL not buy PS3, after all these things.

1) Exactly what makes you think that sony isnt fulfulling what you already have?

5) The same can be said on the Wii's VC.

and about u'r last couple of comments, those are misfortunate things that may of happened to you

but i have to say one thing: Its all on you, just because something unfortunate happened to you, doesnt mean u have to blame the company who made whatever product.

I bought my ps2 in 2003, its still running perfectly fine
I bought my psp in May 2005, no dead pixels, no dust, perfect

so u'r view on sony being the "enemy" is bias.

[Joe88]

sony is the biggest liar on the industry... u remember how powerfull was supose to be the emotion engine of the ps2??? well they do the same bull$#@! with the cell processor now...

it is pretty powerfull
but its a shame it was tapped into too late
but again we seen the power of it if you play GoW, the game easily looks like an xbox game

as far as the cell processor goes
8 SPE cores, 7 can be used for games
no computer even has many cores on a single chip, most is quad-core
the chip is pretty dam powerfull, its a supercomputer
thats why they brought folding@home to the PS3

Now the psp was a pretty sexy piece hardware... but Sony never released any interesting content...
It took many year to see the first tekken games on the psp...still no gran turismo...no god of war, etc...

it depends what you would call interesting
there plenty of neat things on it
if you dont like them, just fire up some homebrew
problem solved

And now what?!?!They want me to buy a ps3 so I'll be able to re-paid to play my ps1 games?!?!? are they loose there mind????!?!?!?!

so F... u sony

???
what are you expecting the games to be free to download
I see no complaints about the Wii virtual counsle charing you $8 to play SMB1 for the NES
no one if forcing you to buy them
I dont see the big problem here

[SpooForBrains]

And about re-paying for ps1 games to be downloaded via ps3, well isnt that what the other systems are doing as well?

Especially Wii with its VC.

Not at all. With the wii you are paying for downloadable content you can use on the wii. With playstation store or whatever it's called, you are obliged to buy a PS3 (in UK prices near enough an effective outlay of £500) to get downloadable content you can use on the PSP you have already paid for.

NOT the same thing at all.

[Basil Zero]

also i forgot to mention, wouldnt u think that a big corporation such as sony is able to make all these firmwares, and yet Dark Alex was able to crack it, wouldnt u think, there would be something i dont know.....intentional?

as if sony really wants people to hack the psp(in terms of emulation of old classic systems).

I can understand why IF they are trying, since their software is getting pirated.

Not at all. With the wii you are paying for downloadable content you can use on the wii. With playstation store or whatever it's called, you are obliged to buy a PS3 (in UK prices near enough an effective outlay of £500) to get downloadable content you can use on the PSP you have already paid for.

NOT the same thing at all.

but does it matter? Your still paying for it regardless, even if there is so a "catch". Are you able to play the downloadable VC games on DS, i think not.

Each system has its differences, if it didnt, we would be in a middle of a stalemate.

[IM back!]

you can paly palystion store PSX games on your PS3

[DCRich]

so many interesting comments..now for mine.

if the games weren't too expensive on the psp, I would surely buy more. It's the mindset of it all. people see it as a handheld, and in the back of their minds, a cheaper console to there full size counterparts, ie ps2,ps3,wii, whatever. People don't expect to pay home console prices for a handheld game.

the whole lik-sang thing was a joke. sony bullied them. plain and simple.

now onto the ps1 emu for psp. the difference between this and nes carts.....we all have the means to create LEGAL backups of our own psx games. now why not just give us that right in the official firmware. I will never buy a psx game more than once. if sony doesn't like it, they can kiss my ass.

aside from all that, I have to say that sony has proven that they can put out a kickass console. They just need to treat their customers with the respect they deserve. I have had major problems with SOE, with them deleting my game accounts for no reason, then me having to jump through hoops just to fix their mess-up. SOE itself has the biggest idiots working for them. Although, there customer support does solve problems.

[Volsfan91]

What about the following:

1) Sony deliberately blocking 3rd party keyboard licensing?

2) Not paying up for a true web browser from a company like Opera?

3) Not fulfilling on media codecs?

4) Incorporating technology in their firmware that allowed them to search the memory stick's contents?

Overall, it is 100% clear that Sony seemingly intentionally limits the PSP's functionality and uses by not ever including good features in firmware.

[ficksucker]

This article raises a good point, but I don't think that that absolves Sony of any criticism. Sony is partly to blame for the fact that homebrew exists at all. The goal of a lot of homebrew is simply to allow the PSP to do what it was supposed to do, but never did. When I first baught my PSP, I thought it would be able to easily play videos, I was wrong, but Sony didn't give me any indication that change would come, in fact they seemed to think it was O.K, so I turned to homebrew for the answer. You can't starve your kids and then be surprised when they steal some food.

In the begginning, we couldn't play movies properly, without having them in one specific format, with a complex and retarded numerical name and in low resolution.
Then there was the issue of Sony limiting the PSP's processor to 222 mHz, which seemed to be for no good reason since if I remember correctly, they ended up dropping the limit later on. Now we have some homebrewers making keyboards compatible with the PSP, another basic that Sony and its developers have so far failed at providing.

But I think that those of us that criticize really have an issue with the whole capitalist system of copyrights, patents and royalties, and just how much they're charging for thier games. I'm not saying we think that it's totally wrong, but I think that many of us would agree that it is at least flawed. There are alternatives that would make the system more fair without having to be totally revolutionary. In fact, I think it could be argued that the current system is actually counter to some of the ideals of capitalism.

Now I don't download ISOs myself, but I do play a lot of emulation on my PSP, and I think this situation is a lot like the music industry. Sure there are some people out there who will download everything and never buy a song or a CD. But there are many more of us who would buy it at the right price, we just don't think a CD is worth $20, especially when we know that it only takes like 25 cents to crank out that CD.And we understand that a lot of people work on that CD, but still, there is a huge markup on every CD, and a lot of the people that do work on the CD get paid more than we would consider fair.

I could discuss advertising execs or record company markup, but let's touch on something more contravertial, let's look at the artist. I don't think a musician, no matter how good, deserves millions of dollars for cranking out a CD, in fact, I question whether they have a real job at all. Spending like 2 months out of the year on an album is not a job, and we shouldn't treat it like one. It's spending time performing and doing concerts that is the real job, and if anything, I think that's where most of the money should come from. An album is something that takes a couple of months to crank out and then after that only costs a few cents to produce, and no additional effort, and yet it costs a lot of money for the effort that actually went into it.

I think many of us realize that a huge portion of the cost that we pay for a game is markup. So say what you will about ISO loaders, but I think they are as much the symptoms of a problem as the problem itself. We buy into the values of our society, the problem is it doesn't give enough of us an appropriate way to achieve those goals, because they mark up the price so much.

Sony isn't the bad guy, but they share some of the responsibility.