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    if harry had have used a killing curse his soul would have been separated like when dumbledore said to snape about draco not being ready to have his soul separated, i got the feeling that dumbledore was sayin to snape that if snape did it then he wouldnt have hurt his soul because it wasnt so much murder because he was doing it for the greater good? but i probably got that wrong?

    but yeah and also at the beginning voldemort was able to tell that harry was harry because he disarmed the death eater instead of aiming to hut because they knew that was 'his trademark' but yeah i think it was good that he used expelliarmus to defeat voldemort because of this and showing that you dont need to aim to kill to actually kill the bad guy? yeah? hmm...

    also i think the elder wand would have killed him if he hadnt have done expelliarmus because voldemort said he could preform all the spells he could with his old wand but there was no difference so he would have been able to kill him? well i think he would have been able to...

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    Quote Originally Posted by xoroxmysoxox View Post
    OK first of all. I loved LOVED how Voldemort used the killing curse and Harry used Expelliarmus. I mean there is no better way of showing the differences between these two characters.

    Ooh but I do agree with the last part of the book. 19 years later was just odd, and why the hell 19 wtf is that. it should be 20 or 7 or something. Idkw but that bugged the hell outta me. And i think one of the MAIN MAIN characters should've died to make it sadder. I like sad books they make me feel connected. I cried for most of the HP books. Like for when DD or Sirius died, but in this one the closest i came was when Dobby was killed, effing Bellatrix god i really hate her. She killed so many that i loved!!!

    But overall this book kicked some major ass!!!

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    I have to agree with you in general.
    But as with many others I did believe the ending to be a bit rushed and possibly cheezy.

    I think JKR was trying to leave as much open as possible - so good on her. What we have to remember is that Jo has a load of notes on many of the characters - their parentage, their childhoods, their story line through the books and finally their futures - their are apparently so many notes that it has been impossible to put every detail in the books. She does give out some character details on her own website(JKRowling.com), details that are not contained in the books - Jo has plans for all the characters including Harry, Ron and Hermione.

    Your question was however 'Why 19 years?'.
    If it had been the aftermath of the battle then she wouldn't have been able to tell us that Harry was Happy with wife and family - we wouldn't know that Albus Severus was named after the two Headmasters and Harry believed Snape to be the bravest man he had ever known - we wouldn't learn that 'All was well', life goes on after death and that the Malfoys, Potters and Weasleys would still hold the same places in the wizarding world as when Harry first started school.

    It had to be 19 years because there is a time line to be followed that Jo had already created.
    Harry was 17, so add the rest of that year to bring Harry up to the age of 18 then add the 19 years, this will make Harry not long turned 37 and Ginny 36, their eldest son(James) was more than 11 and Albus 11, their daugher younger so their children were born when they were approximately 26+/-. So there is approximately a ten year gap where Harry gets over his ordeal along with the wizarding world, persues his career and marries Ginny. As we have learnt through the 7 years of Harry's life at Hogwarts - A lot can happen in that time.

    If we go with Harry's birth dates also Albus-Severus was born between Sept 1st '06 and Aug 31st '07 so is either a small baby or not born yet. The scene on the platform will not take place for another 11 years, on September 1st 2017. I feel that for some reason Albus Severus Potter was probably born on 21st July 2007 (The day the book was released). And therefore that is the reason it 19 years later rather than 7 or 20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novello2410 View Post
    right so here we are. Voldemort and Harry. Face to face at last.

    Even tho harrys allready been killed (sigh) but is back to life again.. suprise suprise

    now i was expecting an amazing scene. Hoping that harry had learnt some decent spells throughout the last 7 years. Even that Sectumcepsrespwhatever that was in the half blood prince. That would've been a decent spell to use. Yet no.. here we have the most powerful wizard of all time and some 17 year old who got saved by his mummy. expelliarmus.. expelliarmus is the spell that harry chose to use in what could possibly his dying moments and he still manages to win!

    sorry but in my opinion this is absolutely ridiculous. You'd at least use a killing curse or something.


    I don't know about you, but i feel this was the biggest anticlimax to the entire series of books. I finished the book yesterday morning and i'm STILL annoyed at this. For some reason it keeps bugging me.. expelliarmus! for god's sake! aaaah!

    oh and one more thing. I feel the 19 years later was completely unnecessary! How typical, Harry and Ginny.. Ron and hermoine. And the fact that his kids are named after Dumbledore and harrys parents is even more confusing! It took me about 15 minutes just to read thoes 5 pages because of all the names and stuff.


    Now i know it can't be re-written or anything and this thread is probably going to lead nowhere but i just had to get it off my chest!

    i've loved the harry potter books ever since they first came out. I even went at midnight (yes i'm cool) to get the 7th one. I was so looking foward to the end of the book. Expecting a huge battle. The death of either Ron, Hermione or even Harry. But no. Voldemort is killed by expelliarmus and everyone gets married and has kids.



    i feel really let down. I would actualy have been happier if the book ended with Harry being killed in the forbidden forrest and then neville or someone killiing Nagini and Hermione Killing voldemort. That would've been much more satisfactory. I know that couldn't have happen cause its a kids book and stuff... however thoes of us who are no longer 12 i feel would've been pleased by a much more adult and (although upsetting) satisfactory ending.

    It's a real shame i've had to write this. I've loved harry for so long and now i never want to read one of the books again ...

    Does anyone else agree?
    well i do aggree with you.the end deceived me.
    i havn't been able to read entirely"19 years laters"-quite useless-...
    and effectively voldemort death was quite fast for a great great wizard like him.
    also i expected the death of a main caratacker:ron,harry ,hermione, ginny,or luna.
    so i am as deceived as y are

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    though , finishing harry potter books with a very sad death could have been quite too sad^^

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    I agree that Voldy's death was probably too quick but I don't think any more characters should have died. I think the problem is that J.k just isn't good at writing those kinds of scenes. She is a children's book writer and although her books became progressivly darker she just wasn't that great at killing characters off. I know that Serious and the DD deaths were pretty well done but that's because they were the only major deaths in their respective books. In the DH I think the prospect of killing off so many characters was difficult for her. When you look at just about every death in the book they were over and done with really quickly with the exception of Dobby.

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    right i agree it was good harry didn't use a killing curse etc becuase he's a good boy and what not. I just feel that after going through 7 years of harrys life, the big battle at hogwarts, harry missing death twice, people dying to protect him, his godfather dying shortly after meeting him... well to be honest i expected the final battle to be much better than it was. Seriously... 7 books all finished off with about three sentences of battle. dissapointed to say the least!

    I understand it's a childrens book but i just feel for thoes of us who have matured along with the books.. we deserve a more adult ending rather than the happily ever after we've been given.

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    but we know harry never had the skill to evn be close to match Voldermort. If the dueled and it lasted 20 minutes this would be realy realy stupid. A 17teen year old lasting 20 minutes then killing the darkest wizard of all time? When many Skillful people in the past had failed before harry?

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    may be he could have finish him off at 3 bs 1 with ron and hermione

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    why didn't ron or hermione die? this is so cheesy and happy ending-ish. this is the last and darkest book here...

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    If u guys were disappointed with the last book, try reading this..it's a fake version of book 7 but I think the author seems to know what he's doing..LOL

    here's the link:
    http://www.phoenixsong.net/fanfiction/story/3517/

    If you're sad and hate that the HP mania would end, didn't like the last book, or you're just simply bored and got nothing to do..try reading it..

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