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    I am unsure myself how to interpret this particular memory of Snape's.

    It could, on one hand, mean that yes Snape had always cared about Harry because he was Lily's son. Dumby asks if Snape did come to care for Harry, Snape says for him, casts a doe patronus (because that was what Lily's was) and when asked 'After all this time', Snape says 'Always' meaning, yes i have always cared for Harry because i cared for Lily.

    Or does he mean, when asked if he cares for Harry-No, i just cared about his mum Lily. I think this is more likely because when asked if he has come to care for Harry he says for him. Emphasis on the italics, i.e. he is shocked or scandalised by the fact Dumby even thinks this can be true. He then casts the doe to show and represent to Dumby who he really cares for and why caring for this person (Lily, obv because the patronus is a doe like hers) means that he does not want Harry to die. Not because he likes or cares for Harry but because he cares for Lily and has sworn to protect her son because its what she would have wanted. And when Dumby asks 'after all this time' he says 'always' meaning i have always cared for Lily.

    Tell me your views.

    i'd like this questions posed to JK herself because its really bugging me! agh

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxellexx View Post
    I am unsure myself how to interpret this particular memory of Snape's.

    It could, on one hand, mean that yes Snape had always cared about Harry because he was Lily's son. Dumby asks if Snape did come to care for Harry, Snape says for him, casts a doe patronus (because that was what Lily's was) and when asked 'After all this time', Snape says 'Always' meaning, yes i have always cared for Harry because i cared for Lily.

    Or does he mean, when asked if he cares for Harry-No, i just cared about his mum Lily. I think this is more likely because when asked if he has come to care for Harry he says for him. Emphasis on the italics, i.e. he is shocked or scandalised by the fact Dumby even thinks this can be true. He then casts the doe to show and represent to Dumby who he really cares for and why caring for this person (Lily, obv because the patronus is a doe like hers) means that he does not want Harry to die. Not because he likes or cares for Harry but because he cares for Lily and has sworn to protect her son because its what she would have wanted. And when Dumby asks 'after all this time' he says 'always' meaning i have always cared for Lily.

    Tell me your views.

    i'd like this questions posed to JK herself because its really bugging me! agh
    well that what i think too^^

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    sth is wrong: why didn't malfoy received the elder wand when he said "expelliarmus"??

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxellexx View Post
    I am unsure myself how to interpret this particular memory of Snape's.

    It could, on one hand, mean that yes Snape had always cared about Harry because he was Lily's son. Dumby asks if Snape did come to care for Harry, Snape says for him, casts a doe patronus (because that was what Lily's was) and when asked 'After all this time', Snape says 'Always' meaning, yes i have always cared for Harry because i cared for Lily.

    Or does he mean, when asked if he cares for Harry-No, i just cared about his mum Lily. I think this is more likely because when asked if he has come to care for Harry he says for him. Emphasis on the italics, i.e. he is shocked or scandalised by the fact Dumby even thinks this can be true. He then casts the doe to show and represent to Dumby who he really cares for and why caring for this person (Lily, obv because the patronus is a doe like hers) means that he does not want Harry to die. Not because he likes or cares for Harry but because he cares for Lily and has sworn to protect her son because its what she would have wanted. And when Dumby asks 'after all this time' he says 'always' meaning i have always cared for Lily.

    Tell me your views.

    i'd like this questions posed to JK herself because its really bugging me! agh

    disagree, i think it was pretty easily written that Both dumbledore and Snape were reffering to Harry, the doe was just to show why; his love for Lily. Dumbledore wasnt a stupid man, he knew snape loved Lily and knew he cared for Harry hence the italics ure talking about.

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    I want 2 believe that snape cared 4 harry and was refering 2 him but i remain unconvinced

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    Quote Originally Posted by padfoots View Post
    sth is wrong: why didn't malfoy received the elder wand when he said "expelliarmus"??
    because expelliarmus doesnt bring the opponents wand to you it only disarms it. by disarming dumbledore malfoy became the true master of the elder wand. malfoy had no idea that it was the elder wand therefore he had no reason to take it and use it as his own.

    actually using the wand is not essential in being its master. snape didnt become the new master because the wand already belonged to malfoy when snape killed dd. when harry disarmed malfoy he became the new owner of the wand although malfoy had never even used it.

    but yes i too choose to believe that snape always cared for harry very much but he also hated james so it kinda balanced out his attitude and behavior toward harry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psykke View Post
    because expelliarmus doesnt bring the opponents wand to you it only disarms it. by disarming dumbledore malfoy became the true master of the elder wand. malfoy had no idea that it was the elder wand therefore he had no reason to take it and use it as his own.

    actually using the wand is not essential in being its master. snape didnt become the new master because the wand already belonged to malfoy when snape killed dd. when harry disarmed malfoy he became the new owner of the wand although malfoy had never even used it.

    but yes i too choose to believe that snape always cared for harry very much but he also hated james so it kinda balanced out his attitude and behavior toward harry.
    well each time harry said expelliarmus in the story he received his opponent's wand( one exemple: he received the elderwand from voldemort when he sad expelliarmus)
    so logycally malfoy should have received the elderwand when he disarmed dumbledore

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